The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

Mr Perceptive said:
OK Alan, I apologise what I said was over the top (I'm a bit grumpy today, and that's no excuse), but you have regularly whether in jest or not had a pop at Fuji (basing your experience on an older camera you didn't get on with and what you've read on the internet), you only have to search for posts by you containing Fuji to see this, I just find it tiresome, and today I snapped.

Sorry.
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David, No, I haven't "had a pop at Fuji" and this recent post of mine about the article at DPR was in no way meant to be Fuji bashing but merely saying that IMHO the A7 is near enough what the author of that article is looking for, a X100 sized interchangeable lens FF camera. He was the one who brought Fuji into it and neither he (I assume) nor I are Fuji bashing.

I honestly don't care what make anything is. You know that I have owned a Fuji, it was my first digital camera, a S602 pro zoom, and if you can find any post of mine comparing that early generation camera to the Fuji's of today and using it to in seriousness disparage the latter I'll eat your shorts as well as mine and happily apologise. But I suspect we've both wasted enough time on this already.

To be clear and to try and be polite - No, I don't want a Fuji as I'm put off by Xtrans and the possible processing foibles but other than that I really don't have any negative view. The Fuji's look nice with their manual dials but I'd much rather have the A7 than any APS-C camera to use my old and new manual lenses on at their intended focal length. That's mostly what I use my A7 for and I have the smaller than both FF and APS-C interchangeable lens Panny GX80 MFT for AF stuff.

This is the second time in this thread in recent weeks I've been accused of Fuji bashing and I just don't get why anyone would think I'd waste my valuable time on any pathetic childish fanboy drivel.

I need a rest from all this.
 
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woof woof said:
David, No, I haven't "had a pop at Fuji" and this recent post of mine about the article at DPR was in no way meant to be Fuji bashing but merely saying that IMHO the A7 is near enough what the author of that article is looking for, a X100 sized interchangeable lens FF camera. He was the one who brought Fuji into it and neither he (I assume) nor I are Fuji bashing.

I honestly don't care what make anything is. You know that I have owned a Fuji, it was my first digital camera, a S602 pro zoom, and if you can find any post of mine comparing that early generation camera to the Fuji's of today and using it to in seriousness disparage the latter I'll eat your shorts as well as mine and happily apologise. But I suspect we've both wasted enough time on this already.

To be clear and to try and be polite - No, I don't want a Fuji as I'm put off by Xtrans and the possible processing foibles but other than that I really don't have any negative view. The Fuji's look nice with their manual dials but I'd much rather have the A7 than any APS-C camera to use my old and new manual lenses on at their intended focal length. That's mostly what I use my A7 for and I have the smaller than both FF and APS-C interchangeable lens Panny GX80 MFT for AF stuff.

This is the second time in this thread in recent weeks I've been accused of Fuji bashing and I just don't get why anyone would think I'd waste my valuable time on any pathetic childish fanboy drivel.

I need a rest from all this.
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Fuji is crap [emoji16]
 
nandbytes said:
No but why would I want to do that. It's just silly and a kludge of a workaround! I might as well buy a DSLR if I have to set that off. a-mount works perfectly well with EVF which shows simulation of live exposure while still doing AF-C wide open and only closing down to take the shot. In fact a-mount lenses via. LA-EA4 seem to work this too. Why not native lenses!
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The lens is always stopped down to your chosen aperture when Live View setting is ON, the camera doesn't just make the EVF more noisy. If you set it to OFF, the aperture stays at the widest then only stops down to your chosen aperture when you fire the shutter (as with a DSLR).

It's not a kludge/workaround, it's a technical requirement.
 
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stevelmx5 said:
The lens is always stopped down to your chosen aperture when Live View setting is ON, the camera doesn't just make the EVF more noisy. If you set it to OFF, the aperture stays at the widest then only stops down to your chosen aperture when you fire the shutter (as with a DSLR).

It's not a kludge/workaround, it's a technical requirement.
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No it's not a technical requirement its a bug.

On sony a-mount DSLT and/or when using adapted lenses the camera only closes the aperture when it has to take the shot. Other times the aperture is left open but you still see the effect of changing exposure. If I turn this off then I won't see the effect of changing exposure in the EVF.
 
nandbytes said:
No it's not a technical requirement its a bug.

On sony a-mount DSLT and/or when using adapted lenses the camera only closes the aperture when it has to take the shot. Other times the aperture is left open but you still see the effect of changing exposure. If I turn this off then I won't see the effect of changing exposure in the EVF.
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It's not a bug. If you look at a DSLR with an OVF, there's a DOF preview button that makes the lens stop down to your chosen aperture. If you hold it down, and you've selected a narrow aperture, your OVF goes darker. In the same way, if you switch the Live View Setting to ON, the camera permanently stops down the lens so you will see the EVF gain up in lower light. If you're in a studio using modelling lights/F11 etc, your EVF will be noisy/dark because the EVF is using those settings. It's simple, if you're in the studio, switch off the Live View Setting effect. For all other areas, leave it on and you will see the variation in your exposure through the EVF.
 
stevelmx5 said:
It's not a bug. If you look at a DSLR with an OVF, there's a DOF preview button that makes the lens stop down to your chosen aperture. If you hold it down, and you've selected a narrow aperture, your OVF goes darker. In the same way, if you switch the Live View Setting to ON, the camera permanently stops down the lens so you will see the EVF gain up in lower light. If you're in a studio using modelling lights/F11 etc, your EVF will be noisy/dark because the EVF is using those settings. It's simple, if you're in the studio, switch off the Live View Setting effect. For all other areas, leave it on and you will see the variation in your exposure through the EVF.
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Sony a-mount DSLT have EVFs not OVF. They do have a dof preview button like you said. That's a button assignable feature on e-mount also.
Like I said with a-mount bodies and adapted lenses it works as it should. With native lenses it's buggy on e-mount
 
nandbytes said:
Sony a-mount DSLT have EVFs not OVF. They do have a dof preview button like said. That's a assignable feature on e-mount also.
Like I said with a-mount bodies and adapted lenses it works as it should. With native lenses it's buggy.
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Doesn't an SLT have a hybrid optical/electronic viewfinder though? If the lens is stopped down, the effect wouldn't be so pronounced through an OVF.
 
nandbytes said:
No but why would I want to do that. It's just silly and a kludge of a workaround! I might as well buy a DSLR if I have to set that off. a-mount works perfectly well with EVF which shows simulation of live exposure while still doing AF-C wide open and only closing down to take the shot. In fact a-mount lenses via. LA-EA4 seem to work this too. Why not native lenses!
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But your referring to dslr not the hybrid Sony ones. The normal dslr does what the emount does
 
jonneymendoza said:
But your referring to dslr not the hybrid Sony ones. The normal dslr does what the emount does
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sony a-mount and/or adapted lenses on e-mount don't behave like how native lenses do on e-mount (3rd time i am repeating this!). sony a-mount also has EVF which works as it should with native lenses unlike sony e-mount.
 
Ok thanks.

So to rewind a bit.how do you see anything in a dark studio environment with live view setting's on?
nandbytes said:
sony a-mount and/or adapted lenses on e-mount don't behave like how native lenses do on e-mount (3rd time i am repeating this!). sony a-mount also has EVF which works as it should with native lenses unlike sony e-mount.
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jonneymendoza said:
Fuji is crap [emoji16]
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No it isn’t :D
I liked many aspects of the Fuji system, I think some aspects Sony could actually do with adopting.
If I had to own only a APS-C system, it would be the Fuji every single time.
They have a great lens lineup and I would pick it over a Sony A6xxx system.
Having said that, it can’t compete with the newer Sony A7/9 bodies, but I guess that’s reflected in the overall cost of the system being significantly cheaper.
 
sjh2008 said:
@chrism_scotland I have just had a peek at your flickr photos for the Loxia 21mm, awesome stuff !!

Looks like you have owned more cameras than Wex :)
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Haha thanks - its a great wide angle I find that range to be ideal - I like to try new things!
 
Quick play with the A6000 with some every day images.

Teeth time 2 by Tim G, on Flickr

Teeth time by Tim G, on Flickr

Really frustrating that the AUTO ISO minimum is 1/60th and can't be changed, not quick enough for me. This is seriously affecting the way I shoot. Like to use Av then fine tune using exp comp. The lens is alright for a kit, sharp enough, quick to AF, but f3.5-5.6 isn't exciting me (but I knew this anyway..) The menus aren't as bad as everyone makes out (unless they changed on the A7 series). I can see this camera getting used for holiday at the end of summer then being moved on.
 
Has anyone found a way to shoot more than 9 images in continous mode?
Im probably missing something here or maybe it is not an option on the A7 iii but i recall having a mode on my D500 where i could set up the camera to shoot up to (i think) 200 images with one press of the shutter button.
Having looked in the manual ond online it seems the A7iii is limited to 5 or 9 images in this mode.
Am i missing something?
 
Bigfungun said:
Has anyone found a way to shoot more than 9 images in continous mode?
Im probably missing something here or maybe it is not an option on the A7 iii but i recall having a mode on my D500 where i could set up the camera to shoot up to (i think) 200 images with one press of the shutter button.
Having looked in the manual ond online it seems the A7iii is limited to 5 or 9 images in this mode.
Am i missing something?
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Huh? Keep your finger on the shutter. Are you talking about an intervelometer or what?
 
Bigfungun said:
I was planning on some astro photography. Up to 200 images @ 20 to 30 seconds but it seems the most i can get is 5.
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Latest Sony's don't have built in intervalometer, only older model apps on play thingy. You seem to be having a lot of issues with your new camera.
 
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twist said:
Latest Sony's don't have built in intervalometer, only older model apps on play thingy. You seem to be having a lot of issues with your new camera.
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Believe it or not im quite enjoying it now. I think it was just a sketchy transition phase.
Sony Play thing. Thats where i read about it. Pity but not to worry as i think the Meike battery grip wireless remote might have a solution.
 
Bigfungun said:
Believe it or not im quite enjoying it now. I think it was just a sketchy transition phase.
Sony Play thing. Thats where i read about it. Pity but not to worry as i think the Meike battery grip wireless remote might have a solution.
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Yes, that should do it
 
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T_J_G said:
Quick play with the A6000 with some every day images.

Teeth time 2 by Tim G, on Flickr

Teeth time by Tim G, on Flickr

Really frustrating that the AUTO ISO minimum is 1/60th and can't be changed, not quick enough for me. This is seriously affecting the way I shoot. Like to use Av then fine tune using exp comp. The lens is alright for a kit, sharp enough, quick to AF, but f3.5-5.6 isn't exciting me (but I knew this anyway..) The menus aren't as bad as everyone makes out (unless they changed on the A7 series). I can see this camera getting used for holiday at the end of summer then being moved on.
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The default 1/60th speed is an annoying Sony feature that my A7 also does. The only way to work around (and still control Aperture) is to shoot Manual with auto ISO.
 
Hi all.

How do you test for de centering (i think that is the main issue with 35mm 1.4?) ??

I am thinking of buying this lens from amazon but return it a few times until i get a good copy and wondering how do you test if the lens doesn't exhibit the issue normally found on it?
 
Any nightlife/concert/evening party type shooters on here?

This is what is stopping me going full over to Sony - I love my A7III its awesome, but I am currently keeping my 5D3 etc because the sony is useless in no/low light as the flash gun doesn't support IR assisted focusing - any ideas when sony will be using a canon/nikon like AF from the flash gun ? How will they fix this for night life photography ?

It's a massive gap in the cameras capabilities IMO - I also mostly make a living off weddings, and dark rooms, first dance/evening parties suffer as well with AF on the sony - the LED assist lamp isnt any good and also blinds people.
 
jonneymendoza said:
Hi all.

How do you test for de centering (i think that is the main issue with 35mm 1.4?) ??

I am thinking of buying this lens from amazon but return it a few times until i get a good copy and wondering how do you test if the lens doesn't exhibit the issue normally found on it?
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One side of the lens will be the sharp, the other won't.

Take a photo on a tripod of a static scene to make sure it's not standing off-square etc and just look at the resulting image.
 
stevelmx5 said:
One side of the lens will be the sharp, the other won't.

Take a photo on a tripod of a static scene to make sure it's not standing off-square etc and just look at the resulting image.
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I would also point out that using a flat surface (such as a brick wall) or a test chart helps.
 
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jonneymendoza said:
Ok cool using f8-f11?
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That should give you enough DOF to judge the sharpness. I'd say that if it's there, you'll see it but don't go looking for it if the overall image looks good to you. It's a shame that you need to plan for returning a >£1000 lens a few times before you get one that's actually built properly though isn't it.
 
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