The next step after a canon 60d... recommend something faster !

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Firstly I'm not wanting to switch systems :canon:
If you're going to recommend another brand, vacate the thread now :exit:
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I've had a great time with my 60d , but I am wanting something that is a little faster... as the fps rate is starting to let me down in some areas.

I'm in no rush , so happy to wait around for a few recommendations.

Here's a few specs I'm looking for.

  1. The FPS rate - Continuous shooting must be an improvement on the 60d (5.3fps), this is my main reason for upgrading.
    However I've never used it on the full 1/8000 it's capable of , so a maxium shutter speed drop would be fine, as long as I have at least 1/2000 which is the max I've ever used.
  2. I'm happy with the 18mp , so more is not a necessity , but less is not an option.
  3. The video is novel , but rarely gets used so would not be missed, so a body without video is fine.
  4. I shoot in low light a lot , so an ISO drop is not an option (6400 minimum)
  5. I would consider full frame, however as I'd have to swap out 2/3 of my lenses , I'd not want to be buying a very expensive body as I'd have to fund new lenses aswell
  6. Ideally I'm looking for a max budget of about £400 used for body alone , though I may push it slightly for something good.
 
If you want to stick with Canon, crop sensor and a budget of £400, you're probably looking at an incremental upgrade to either a 70D or a 7Dmk1? Looking at the specs, they're only 7/8fps so not a huge difference. A sub-£400 FF canon would be in the area of a 5Dmk2 but the max fps on that is 3.9 (mainly because it's not Canon's major sports offering).

Also, FPS and maximum shutter speed are two different things.

What are you shooting that requires a faster fps than you have now?
 
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Canon 70D & 80D = 7 FPS
Canon 7D MK2 = 10 FPS.
You are not going to get a Canon cropped sensor body with a faster fps for £400.
So either save up your pennies for a 7D mk2 (not worth the price for an additional 3 fps imho but there may be additional features you may benefit from) or stick with your 60D.
 
hashcake said:
Canon 70D & 80D = 7 FPS
Canon 7D MK2 = 10 FPS.
You are not going to get a Canon cropped sensor body with a faster fps for £400.
So either save up your pennies for a 7D mk2 (not worth the price for an additional 3 fps imho but there may be additional features you may benefit from) or stick with your 60D.
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But beware that you might find the 7D2 images noisier than the 60D in the same shooting conditions.

Personally, I rate my 7D2 really highly and it'd be a superb upgrade from the 60D if you can find one for the right price second hand.
 
EightBitTony said:
But beware that you might find the 7D2 images noisier than the 60D in the same shooting conditions.

Personally, I rate my 7D2 really highly and it'd be a superb upgrade from the 60D if you can find one for the right price second hand.
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I can understand that statement if you were talking about a 7D Mk1, but a Mk2 is much better on the noise front. As previously mentioned, I don't think your budget is going to improve your FPS rate, you'll need to add another couple of hundred quid at least.

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hashcake said:
You are not going to get a Canon cropped sensor body with a faster fps for £400.
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1D MK 3 is crop sensor, 10 fps, under 400. Takes FF lenses though and low resolution so cannot recommend to the OP
 
GTG said:
1D MK 3 is crop sensor, 10 fps, under 400.
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I never knew that, I just assumed that all D1's were full frame.
It's also a few generations older than the OP's 60D but as you said there is no point as it takes FF lenses.
 
hashcake said:
I never knew that, I just assumed that all D1's were full frame.
It's also a few generations older than the OP's 60D but as you said there is no point as it takes FF lenses.
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They were a wickedly good APS-H size 1.3 x crop, geared towards pro sports photographers.
Canon used to make a pro sports model and high res model but when the 1D X came along they rolled it into one ( good at both )
Unfortunately for everyone Canon don't make APS-H anymore, such a pity because it makes sense ( at least to me for people who want an in-between aps-c and FF )
 
What are you shooting that needs more FPS than you have? Unless it's fast moving sports or BIFs is there much need for more FPS?

Looking at your kit list, only one of the 3 lenses you have is EF-S, so the other 2 will work fine with full frame, and neither of those lenses suggests you shoot BIFs or fast moving sports.
 
EightBitTony said:
I disagree, personally, having used and shot both. I've got a very early 7d2, and there's some conjecture that they got less noisy in later revisions.
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We'll agree to disagree on this one, my 7D2 was never a problem for noise, even at 3200 as long as you ETTR.
 
Equestrian and Dog sports.

Showjumping , Flyball etc .

I really do need a higher FPS rate .
 
IMHO 7d2 is the way to go. Read about folk who have had problems but I have never had one that I can’t put down to user error.
What I will say is it takes some getting used to and practice. Read the extra pdf on the af system. This is one of the best cameras I have ever owned
 
I don’t think there’s an answer to your specific needs within budget.

7d mkI is faster (not massively) but no better IQ (poss worse)

The MkII would be next best, but out of budget

1d III won’t take crop lenses, though I’d research this as an option.
 
OTOH an upgrade to a 70-200 2.8 will get you more keepers and drop your ISO.
 
7D Mk1 for me was a great camera function wise, but hard work to get decent photos. Exposure had to be dead right otherwise noise appeared at low ISO's.
Maybe one of the newer xxxD range would be worth looking at, not sure what's on offer as I sold all my Canon gear about four years ago.

Think you are asking a lot for 400 quid, good tracking focus is more important than fps for a lot of your subject matter.
 
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Phil V said:
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The early one is good vfm now.
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I'll look into that then , does it have a quicker reaction time than the STM aswell ?

I find the 55-250STM has much more of a delay between the shutter press and the capture, than my 17-55 2.8 does.
 
gothgirl said:
I'll look into that then , does it have a quicker reaction time than the STM aswell ?

I find the 55-250STM has much more of a delay between the shutter press and the capture, than my 17-55 2.8 does.
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Sounds like it's just taking longer to lock on the focus as the actual shutter delay is a result of the body, not the lens directly.
 
As others have said you're looking at a 7D Mk II or an 80D for a worthwhile upgrade, and I'm not sure you'd get either in decent condition for £400. HDEW sell the 80D body only for £649 if you don't mind a grey import. I got mine from there with a three year warranty and have had no issues with it.
 
What are you doing with your 60d post upgrade? I.e. is your £400 net cost (I.e you can spend say £600 If you got £200 for your 60d) or is it gross i.e. either you are keeping your 60d or can only afford say £200 net spend (£400 less say £200 for 60d)?
 
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