First big printer and monos seem randomly purple cast - help please!

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I recently acquired a big Canon A2 printer as I decided it was time to have a go. In at the deep end, I suppose. Anyway, I am printing some mono basketball photos and sometimes they are exactly what I expect and then I get one [right now] which seems to have acquired a slight purple cast. The light is weird at the arena where I shoot - up to 3 mixed light sources but this is just strange. So if anybody can help me before I tear my hair out that would be very welcome. Please keep the technical language to a minimum though. Thanks

PS I am printing from Lightroom
 
If your printer can be told/forced to print using its black and grey inks only rather than being allowed to use the other colours, B&W prints should (note the "should"!) be cast free. Some papers make a difference to the perceived colours of the print too.
 
Set the printer driver to monochrome printing if available - it is on my IP8750. Also make sure you have colour correction only set once in either Lightroom or by printer.
 
Have you tried printing via the Canon Studio Pro software, can be used as a plug in on Lightroom
 
I will look into these. I am also going to get to grips with softproofing. Thanks for your replies.
 
Finste said:
Sounds like double profiling. It used to be (still is?) a problem with Epson printers.

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It’s not a problem with epson printers at all, its a problem with people double profiling with any printer. What you should be doing is in ps/lr use ps/lr manages colour and in then turn OFF colour management in the printer dialogue box. Don’t just use black inks or you will lose an awful lot of gradations with which your printer uses certain colours to produce good black and whites.
 
gerry s said:
It’s not a problem with epson printers at all, its a problem with people double profiling with any printer. What you should be doing is in ps/lr use ps/lr manages colour and in then turn OFF colour management in the printer dialogue box. Don’t just use black inks or you will lose an awful lot of gradations with which your printer uses certain colours to produce good black and whites.
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Alternatively let the printer manage the settings and use its profiles, but whatever it has to be just one or the other.
When I use the Canon Studio software once it's launched I close LR down, no chance of conflicts that way.
 
That’s fine but when you let printer manage colour you will be just using a generic profile and not the paper specific one you have access to in lr/ps
 
I thought that to get good B&W results, you need a grayscale ICC profile? I've not seen one for any of the papers I use.

Using the manufacturers colour ICC profile can sometimes result in me getting a caste to a B&W print. Because of this, I let the printer manage colour and use the printers native B&W function for black & white prints. For colour, I switch to the correct ICC profile (Lightroom manages colour, the printer colour management is switched off). That's my experience anyway.
 
gerry s said:
That’s fine but when you let printer manage colour you will be just using a generic profile and not the paper specific one you have access to in lr/ps
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Pretty sure the Canon software lets you access profiles you have downloaded and installed, also fine if you are using Canon paper.
 
gerry s said:
Don’t just use black inks or you will lose an awful lot of gradations with which your printer uses certain colours to produce good black and whites.
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Note that I specifically stated black and grey. Any printer that uses the colour inks to show the greys (rather than using the grey inks) will have a cast, however slight.
 
tijuana taxi said:
Pretty sure the Canon software lets you access profiles you have downloaded and installed, also fine if you are using Canon paper.
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That is because the Canon Software is managing the colour in the same way as PS/LR manages colour.
Harlequin565 said:
I thought that to get good B&W results, you need a grayscale ICC profile?
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Indeed, as I create my own profiles I have a greyscale profile for each of the papers i print to, but as you say not many, if any, paper manufacturers produce such a profile and I think your approach would work the best. (I think you use an Epson which has a dedicated greyscale function, on Canon you can simply check the greyscale checkbox which will then use the black and grey inks.)

p.s. the advantage I find with using a greyscale profile is in the soft proofing, being able to fine tune to get the desired result on screen.
 
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