Could be my first job, advice needed

Nod said:
Face to face is far better than learning purely from videos.
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Sure, for some people that may be the case but has the OP even tried the videos? He certainly didn't acknowledge the fact that I had provided the links. I linked to Mike Browne's channel who is great at explaining in the most simple terms. He has individual videos that cover all aspects of basic photography including focus, aperture and DOF.
 
Troll :
  • carefully and systematically search an area for something.
    "a group of companies trolling for partnership opportunities"
  • fish by trailing a baited line along behind a boat.
    gerund or present participle: trolling"we trolled for mackerel"
The internet term "troll" came from the above definition rather than the mythical creature as many people seem to think but has rather got hi-jacked as a term for aggressive and hateful postings. Originally trolling was posting on subject that had already been done-to-death just to pull people into a pointless debate
 
sirch said:
Troll :
  • carefully and systematically search an area for something.
    "a group of companies trolling for partnership opportunities"
  • fish by trailing a baited line along behind a boat.
    gerund or present participle: trolling"we trolled for mackerel"
The internet term "troll" came from the above definition rather than the mythical creature as many people seem to think but has rather got hi-jacked as a term for aggressive and hateful postings. Originally trolling was posting on subject that had already been done-to-death just to pull people into a pointless debate
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Use to love fishing :D
 
Dave70D said:
Just a thought that would help you, why not try having a go at the Weekly 52 next year, You`d get good feedback and learn as you go ?
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That's a good idea, I learnt a lot from the time I spent doing the weekly 52 challenge
 
ecoleman said:
Back to the comfort zone. You won't learn much there.



Back to basics? There are free photography lessons on youtube. I pointed to to the correct channel a few threads ago.
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That’s why I help friends out for free at events but I get told on here to not do that lol!

Going out with my camera is the best way.

If they pay me, and they don’t like the pics I will refund them. But I’m not charging. I’m helping friends out
 
willkia said:
To me the girls are stood at the same level.

So I would say it doesn’t matter which girl I focus on?

Obv I want them both in focus
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:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

In your picture I observed that neither were in focus but the wall was......I offered insight into choosing one or another FP to ensure that you could get them in focus and keep the composition.

Yet and though I specifically asked you, you have not acknowledged that you understand about making an informed choice in regard to which FP to use.

Yes, I hope you will learn something from a 121 session but I remain to be convinced that you will put any feedback & advice into practical use.

All the best with your efforts but for me I have the impression that I have wasted my time :(

What is the old saying.....you can take a horse to water but cannot make it drink!
 
willkia said:
That’s why I help friends out for free at events but I get told on here to not do that lol!

Going out with my camera is the best way.

If they pay me, and they don’t like the pics I will refund them. But I’m not charging. I’m helping friends out
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:banghead::banghead: okay, whatever. I'm done, good luck with your photography journey.
 
willkia said:
That’s why I help friends out for free at events but I get told on here to not do that lol!

Going out with my camera is the best way.

If they pay me, and they don’t like the pics I will refund them. But I’m not charging. I’m helping friends out
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Well, that isn't what I said. What I suggested was that you get some on the job training first.
[QUOTE="Garry Edwards, post: 8309474, member: 6830"
<SNIP>Of course, everyone has to start somewhere, and I applaud you for your efforts and self confidence, but a much better way of starting out would be to contact event photographers in your area (the people who specialise in this sort of thing) and find one or more who will allow you to carry their bags for them at similar events, do general labouring work for them and so on, and you will then learn from exposure. That way, nobody gets hurt. Same goes for all other disciplines, if you want to be a wedding photographer then work as a bag carrier for wedding photographers, if you want to be a studio photographer then impress studio photographers with your coffee making skills.<snip>[/QUOTE]
 
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That’s why I help friends out for free at events but I get told on here to not do that lol!

Going out with my camera is the best way.

If they pay me, and they don’t like the pics I will refund them. But I’m not charging. I’m helping friends out[/QUOTE]

understand what you're saying but I think others are trying to help not hinder, the problem you have is, outdoor headshots in good light V indoor parties with varying, possible no or awful lights, it's almost the two extremes.

generally I think the consensus is, learn to walk before you try for the Olympics and as you learn the basics test yourself slightly more, you may feel some are a little harsh, but lots here have spent a lifetime learning and are still learning, some if/not all of these paid/unpaid jobs can and may send a ripple effect for you and others.

test yourself in slightly different places, but note indoor parties and such are really difficult, normally requires a world of knowledge regards settings, equipment capability and so many other things, im reasonably confident in my basic understanding of stuff, but in no way would I go and attempt a birthday indoor party.

Just go step by step, atempt, try to learn from that and if you get stuck, pop a post in the beginner sections.
 
@willkia - the first thing you really do need to learn is the exposure triangle - this is the very basis of photography.

Once you have fully learned the above you then need to learn the three components of it; Shutter speed, aperture & iso. Learn and study what effect on the image changing each of these features has and you will have more understanding.

The really is absolutely no point telling you where to focus and how to get parts of the image in focus or out of focus until you have a thorough understanding of the above.

There is literally hundreds of videos on the internet about the above subjects.
 
I agree with @Garry Edwards, I applaud you for trying. It's just you don't have the basic skill level to give good consistent results. I have a good knowledge of how my camera works, where to focus, how to focus, composing my scene (I don't do people, but the principle are the same), but even with these things I am still not a brilliant photographer, I maybe ok, but that for me isn't good enough to charge people or even take an offer of photographing an event or taking portraits for some one.
Do you know anyone who can help you with your camera, who can talk through how to achieve what you are after. Because until you know, how and where to focus, how the in camera light meter works (this is more important than you might think, as it can be easily fooled), then you are never going to get it right. These really are the basics, forget composition, you could have the best composition in the world, but if you've focused on the background and your subject is out of focus, the composition is pointless. You don't always get a second chance to get that shot and all the time you are looking at the back of your camera, trying to workout what you've done wrong, you are missing opportunities to take another shot of that one shot no one else could get.
You really do need to listen to the advice given here by the very knowledgeable (not me so much) photographers. They are trying to help you, but they will give up if you are not willing to listen and try.
I wish you good luck.
 
Will this is Sam one of the many vocalists I take photos of, he was moving about too but I stayed focused on his eye. He really likes it but for me Yes it`s one of my best to date but I`m still not going to charge yet until I`m 100% happy.


Sam by Dave, on Flickr
 
GarethB said:
Beautiful shot, great b&w processing too!





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You could have shown us a mediocre shot though!....allow us beginners to feel like there's still hope!!:p

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Lol... Thanks Gareth, it was to show Will that even focus on the eye and the rest is fine. I use to have the same camera as Will and the 70D was the first I used to take of the singers using the 70-200mm f4 L lens but jumped from Canon to Fuji.
 
willkia said:
This is what she text me 2 weeks before the ball

Hello lovely. I’m so so sorry but my cousins have managed to get a professional photography for free therefore we won’t be needing you that evening. I’m so sorry!!! Thank you anyway xx


I was glad she text me that as I didn’t feel confident
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Blimey you had to withstand some withering flak for nowt!
I sense you have a thick skin so keep at it! ;)
 
A photo I took today

Let me guess, she is out of focus and the tree is! Hahaha

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willkia said:
Iso 100

F2.0

Aperture priority mode
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Does the pic look the same here as it does on your screen/program, just looks a little soft, don’t see how it’s a focus issue.

Is the lens a 1.8 ?
 
Here is a better photo guys
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I wonder why the first photo I took wasn’t as good as focus as this?

One question I do have.

Before I switched to BBF I would half press the shutter buttons, hear the beep and wait for the green light to come on so I know the subject is in focus

Now I’ve switched to BBF and when I press the new focus button there is no beep or green light so how do I know the subject is in focus

Nostromo said:
To me, the watch and cup look to be sharper than the face. It could be a front focus issue.
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What does front focus Issie mean? How do I fix that?
 
willkia said:
Here is a better photo guys

I wonder why the first photo I took wasn’t as good as focus as this?

One question I do have.

Before I switched to BBF I would half press the shutter buttons, hear the beep and wait for the green light to come on so I know the subject is in focus

Now I’ve switched to BBF and when I press the new focus button there is no beep or green light so how do I know the subject is in focus



What does front focus Issie mean? How do I fix that?
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I don’t mean to step on toes, but with everything else your trying to learn and the fact it’s almost still life, I personally would stick it back to shutter-focus, at least you get confirmation, I do use BBF but only as I prefer it for fast sports, keep in pressed and hit the shutter when something good happens, I would go back, concentrate on stuff at hand and maybe move to BBF later if/when you feel the need.
 
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willkia said:
Here is a better photo guys
43465061-D0DD-4B7B-806C-C9E2A875EF33.jpg


I wonder why the first photo I took wasn’t as good as focus as this?

One question I do have.

Before I switched to BBF I would half press the shutter buttons, hear the beep and wait for the green light to come on so I know the subject is in focus

Now I’ve switched to BBF and when I press the new focus button there is no beep or green light so how do I know the subject is in focus



What does front focus Issie mean? How do I fix that?
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Better but now her glasses are sharper I think.
 
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