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Wasn't sure where to post this, not really a "project" in that it was all shot in a day although some of the photos will be part of an on-going project but it felt like too many photos for the landscapes section and they aren't really the normal style of landscapes. Besides I am not interested in crit of the individual photos, they are what they are, but I am interested in opinions (if anyone has any at all) on the collection.

Norber (1) by Chris H, on Flickr

Norber (8) by Chris H, on Flickr

Norber (3) by Chris H, on Flickr

Norber (2) by Chris H, on Flickr

Norber (4) by Chris H, on Flickr
 
Google will tell you more than you want to know about the Norber Erratics if you are interested so I won't go into that. To me there is something monumental about them and a little reminiscent of Henry Moore's large works in the landscape.
 
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Absolutely understand the Henry Moore connection I think the sets look great, I prefer the monocrome(but I nearly always do) if you do not mind me saying I find the way you have presented them a bit muddled I would of started with the last shot and worked in (if you know what I mean). Fascinating set of pictures IMHO.
 
At a quick first look (after looking up Norber...) my initial thought was 'this might look better in black and white. Then I scrolled further and hey presto!

Although I used to be prejudiced against black and white I'm swinging back to accepting that it does have a place in the digital age.

Being shot in a day doesn't prevent a series of pictures being a project - I took a set of pictures in half an hour which I considered a project as after the first two I had a plan in mind.

I agree with the Bear that the presentation on here probably doesn't do the set justice.

I'm not too sure the ones with the very shallow depth of field/extreme background blur fit the overall 'look'.

Consistent processing (all colour or all mono) and a more different presentation would add strength and coherence to the set.

I sort of get the Henry Moore connection but the jagged forms of the rocks make me think of Paul Nash's megalith paintings.

All IMO, of course. My eye's might be a bit tired right now having just finished scanning 40 odd old negatives, so I might be way out in my thoughts!
 
Baloo said:
Absolutely understand the Henry Moore connection I think the sets look great, I prefer the monocrome(but I nearly always do) if you do not mind me saying I find the way you have presented them a bit muddled I would of started with the last shot and worked in (if you know what I mean). Fascinating set of pictures IMHO.
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Thanks, I don't mind at all it is exactly the sort of feedback I was looking for. They are pretty much in ther order I shot them which makes sense to me but on reflection not to anyone else. I like the idea of working in, or may be out?
 
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Ed Sutton said:
At a quick first look (after looking up Norber...) my initial thought was 'this might look better in black and white. Then I scrolled further and hey presto!

Although I used to be prejudiced against black and white I'm swinging back to accepting that it does have a place in the digital age.

Being shot in a day doesn't prevent a series of pictures being a project - I took a set of pictures in half an hour which I considered a project as after the first two I had a plan in mind.

I agree with the Bear that the presentation on here probably doesn't do the set justice.

I'm not too sure the ones with the very shallow depth of field/extreme background blur fit the overall 'look'.

Consistent processing (all colour or all mono) and a more different presentation would add strength and coherence to the set.

I sort of get the Henry Moore connection but the jagged forms of the rocks make me think of Paul Nash's megalith paintings.

All IMO, of course. My eye's might be a bit tired right now having just finished scanning 40 odd old negatives, so I might be way out in my thoughts!
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Thanks Dave, I suppose it was my intention to present two sets, one colour, one B&W but I think it is only possible to include 5 images in a post so I had to split the colour ones which then made it all a bit confused. I take the point about mixing the close-ups and shallow DoF ones with the wider shots but I guess I was trying to compare and contrast between the wider landscape and the individual rocks and their details. Obviously that aspect of it needs work, I think @Baloo ‘s suggestion of “zooming in” might work better
 
OK so I've been looking at this for a day or two and mulling it over.

I prefer the colour ones. and I'm not sure if that's because I find the mono ones a bit flat and lacking in... something...

The warm light in the colour versions work much better for me. Norber 8 is a bit lost in the background and Norber 9 doesn't quite fit into the overall 'thing' (it's very much a small part of the boulder) as it's presented on a screen. If it was in a book, or on a wall in a gallery I'd probably think differently. Norber 4 instantly reminded me of Pac Man and made me chuckle. #1 & 11 work the best for me, providing scale and also the melding of the ancient with the modern. The inclusion of the man-made stone walls and fields in the background are fab. I think this is worth further exploration and an interesting little side project.

Thanks for sharing.
 
Harlequin565 said:
OK so I've been looking at this for a day or two and mulling it over.

I prefer the colour ones. and I'm not sure if that's because I find the mono ones a bit flat and lacking in... something...

The warm light in the colour versions work much better for me. Norber 8 is a bit lost in the background and Norber 9 doesn't quite fit into the overall 'thing' (it's very much a small part of the boulder) as it's presented on a screen. If it was in a book, or on a wall in a gallery I'd probably think differently. Norber 4 instantly reminded me of Pac Man and made me chuckle. #1 & 11 work the best for me, providing scale and also the melding of the ancient with the modern. The inclusion of the man-made stone walls and fields in the background are fab. I think this is worth further exploration and an interesting little side project.

Thanks for sharing.
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Thanks Ian, it's interesting that you prefer the colour photos because I was err'ing towards the mono, which I usually don't go for in landscapes. It's the second time I've been up there specifically taking photos and I felt I was getting closer to something this time, I was keen to get the form of the fields and walls in the shots and I'm glad that worked. As you say probably worth further work but it really does need good light, which is hard to come by in the Dales.
 
Think the presentation looks better on flkr it tells a story of your journey( do not mean to sound pretentious) I get the context of the stones in their surroundings.
 
Hi Chris - I saw the first of these come up on the front page, then it disappeared & I couldn't find where they were posted for a while.

A few comments come to mind:
The set made more 'sense' to me in the order on TP than o Flickr - I have the feeling of walking up to the different scenes you captures in the TP order.
The colour images offer the rocks a much greater sense of being 3 dimensional objects. In mono they are a bit flat grey-on-grey (though less so Norber Mono 2) - classic film-style, but still a little flat.
Nice use of shallow and wide depth of field to control the eye in different images.
The rocks are all very much the subject, rather than the landscape.

You've made me research and now I want to travel. :)
 
Hi Chris

Well done on getting a "project" off the ground. I thought long & hard about starting one on Church Interiors (a new interest I have) but decided on an open thread instead. Anyway, I hope you're having bags of fun out there in the bleakness. ;)

So far, the shot I like most is the most bleak! the last, mono 3. Love that grey horizon under the solid grey sky.

Another planet. :exit:
 
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Baloo said:
Think the presentation looks better on flkr it tells a story of your journey( do not mean to sound pretentious) I get the context of the stones in their surroundings.
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Thanks (y)

ancient_mariner said:
Hi Chris - I saw the first of these come up on the front page, then it disappeared & I couldn't find where they were posted for a while.

A few comments come to mind:
The set made more 'sense' to me in the order on TP than o Flickr - I have the feeling of walking up to the different scenes you captures in the TP order.
The colour images offer the rocks a much greater sense of being 3 dimensional objects. In mono they are a bit flat grey-on-grey (though less so Norber Mono 2) - classic film-style, but still a little flat.
Nice use of shallow and wide depth of field to control the eye in different images.
The rocks are all very much the subject, rather than the landscape.

You've made me research and now I want to travel. :)
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Thanks Toni, I'm glad I wasn't a mile off with the original order. I wonder if some of the flatness in the mono conversions is partly due to the shots I chose to convert, they weren't that interesting in colour so I went mono, although personally I like them as they are. If you are passing and have an interest in glaciation and geomorphology ;) they are only about a 20-30 minute walk from the parking above Austwick but they are probably not worth a long journey for, especially as you can't guarantee the weather.

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Hi Chris

Well done on getting a "project" off the ground. I thought long & hard about starting one on Church Interiors (a new interest I have) but decided on an open thread instead. Anyway, I hope you're having bags of fun out there in the bleakness. ;)

So far, the shot I like most is the most bleak! the last, mono 3. Love that grey horizon under the solid grey sky.
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:) someone has to document the blasted wastelands of England north of Birmingham and besides this was about as far from a bleak day as we have had since last June, thanks for dropping in.
 
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