Canon IP8750 thoughts?

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I bought a Canon Pixma 5750 about sim xmonths ago just to wet my appettie in the world of printing without spend a too much money & I have to say that I get great personal satisfaction doing the whole proces myself without having to wait for the postman to deliver that picture that I sent to the lab & not knowing what its going to look like when I open that mailer. I want to up my game though when it comes to print quality that I want to prduce on paper, I have done some reaserch and the problem I have with some of the usual suspects are the size of the things (as we live in a small space) so I was looking at the Canon IP8750 which prints A3 as I am not really that bothered about printing big pano's - question is, would this be a good investment or would I be dissapointed with the image quality?? and better of just buying a Canon 100s etc
 
I have one, have no idea what a Canon 100s would add to the image quality, so can't compare, but am very happy with it, especially as I don't need to print regularly to avoid possible head blocking.
I also have permajet refillable ink cartridges, which make it cheap as chips to run, not sure they are still available. I can't see any difference in quality comparing prints to photobox etc, and while I rarely sell prints, those I have done for others have without exception been loved, framed, hung on walls etc.
So, for me, it is perfect, and recommended.
 
I recently bought an IP8750, it’s pretty good but find it’s a little frustrating for printing black and white. If you search for magenta cast with this printer there’s a lot of info. I’ve tried various papers and profiles, the big one to avoid seems to be double profile but even with all the info I find it still has a slight magenta or green cast. It somewhat depends on the light and I can get it so it’s only very slight but it’s there. I’m going to return and get the 100s, it has more grey inks and you can run Print Studio Pro.

If you don’t print much BW the 8750 would be great and certainly good value, or if you don’t mind the slight compromise, it is only slight.

I think I’ve seen other threads on this site comparing the 8750 to the 100.
 
I have a Canon Pixma pro 100s and previously had a Canon PIXMA PRO 9000, before that a number of Epson A4 printers that in their day were pretty good.

Firstly I would ask whether you need A3, yes I love big prints so I went A3+ but do find sourcing paper of that size seems to be almost impossible. I have a nice selection of A3 that's interesting to print on.
How fussy are you as far as colour correctness is concerned. Less ink colours mean less chance of true colours.
Are you going to buy a calibration device, I have an Xrite colour studio device, previously a Spyder system. Theres no point if printing your own you don't calibrate your system. Print houses do so if you want colour correct prints you'll need to even if its only your monitor so you know what you are aiming for.
How often will you print, if it's only a couple of times a year then stick to online print studios.
If your happy to shell out a fortune for ink then go for it. There is nothing like hitting your print button and getting a reasonable print. If you start t print a lot then find a good source of ink refill kits ( Octopus ink ) and refill your cartridges, I've been doing it for years but you must find a reliable and accurate source not just any Ebay crap.
If your going to use Adobe products to edit and print your photographs be ready for some heartache. Getting Adobe products set up perfectly seems to be a black art. I can get a spot on print in Lightroom, but I always without fail get a slight colour cast in Photoshop, even with identical profiles.

Don't be put off at the end of the day, I love printing off my work, I have finally after 30 years of living in the same house started to print and frame my choice of pictures that I will rotate every few months with new ones. Although stupidly expensive at time I feel in my case it's worth the cost as part of my hobby.
 
I recently bought an IP8750, it’s pretty good but find it’s a little frustrating for printing black and white. If you search for magenta cast with this printer there’s a lot of info. I’ve tried various papers and profiles, the big one to avoid seems to be double profile but even with all the info I find it still has a slight magenta or green cast. It somewhat depends on the light and I can get it so it’s only very slight but it’s there. I’m going to return and get the 100s, it has more grey inks and you can run Print Studio Pro.

If you don’t print much BW the 8750 would be great and certainly good value, or if you don’t mind the slight compromise, it is only slight.

I think I’ve seen other threads on this site comparing the 8750 to the 100.


Black and whites off a 100s are stunning, deep deep blacks and plenty of grey shading. Better than my previous 9000mk2 which died in a house fire last year.

The Epson 2880 used to be a fantastic printer for black and white but it's as far as I know no longer available.
 
I had to make a similar decision between the Canon i8750 and the previous model Canon pro 100.
Colour prints - either B&W prints - 100s Unit build quality - 100s
Also check the footprint of the i8750 when all unfolded, I bet its similar in size to the 100s.
I recently bought an IP8750, it’s pretty good but find it’s a little frustrating for printing black and white. If you search for magenta cast with this printer there’s a lot of info. I’ve tried various papers and profiles, the big one to avoid seems to be double profile but even with all the info I find it still has a slight magenta or green cast.
Steve have you ever had a bespoke profile made?
 
The Epson 2880 used to be a fantastic printer for black and white but it's as far as I know no longer available.
Thats probably because the Epson's only used the black ink as i believe, whereas Canon use all. Two things though with the 2880, pigment ink and magenta clogging issues
 
Don't discount the Pro 10, uses pigment instead of ink and can produce some excellent results.
B&W prints can look superb especially when coated with the chroma optimiser, really enhances the Blacks
 
Thats probably because the Epson's only used the black ink as i believe, whereas Canon use all. Two things though with the 2880, pigment ink and magenta clogging issues

You might be correct, I can't remember which model for sure, it may have been the 3880. I spent a day at Epson trying to learn printing with their printers. I never managed to get anything like the results they got. I went with canon in the end with much better results. If I remember correctly the 3880 had black, grey and a glossifier cartridge. I never liked the fact that the printhead in the Epson was an integral part of the mechanism whereas the Canon one was and still is a plug in replacement even if it's expensive.
 
Don't discount the Pro 10, uses pigment instead of ink and can produce some excellent results.
B&W prints can look superb especially when coated with the chroma optimiser, really enhances the Blacks

I looked at the 10s but just couldn’t justify the extra cost of the printer and inks. I do however agree that pigment inks do have more punch.
 
I looked at the 10s but just couldn’t justify the extra cost of the printer and inks. I do however agree that pigment inks do have more punch.

Fair point about the cost, but it came with a free extra set of inks which softened the blow.
I only use the optomiser sparingly, it doesn't last long if you coat every print full page
 
I recently bought an IP8750, it’s pretty good but find it’s a little frustrating for printing black and white. If you search for magenta cast with this printer there’s a lot of info. I’ve tried various papers and profiles, the big one to avoid seems to be double profile but even with all the info I find it still has a slight magenta or green cast. It somewhat depends on the light and I can get it so it’s only very slight but it’s there. I’m going to return and get the 100s, it has more grey inks and you can run Print Studio Pro.

If you don’t print much BW the 8750 would be great and certainly good value, or if you don’t mind the slight compromise, it is only slight.

I think I’ve seen other threads on this site comparing the 8750 to the 100.
Hmm, I've not noticed any magenta casts, but have not done much by way or proper B/W's, just some flyer-type documents.
I do use Permajets own ink, paper and profiles which may be part of it, or I could just be totally unobservant....!
 
Hmm, I've not noticed any magenta casts, but have not done much by way or proper B/W's, just some flyer-type documents.
I do use Permajets own ink, paper and profiles which may be part of it, or I could just be totally unobservant....!

Purple or Magenta tint can quite often be down to what's called double profiling.

You may know already and if you do my apologies.

Double profiling occurs where the printer driver controls the colour, and also the editing program controls the profile as well. It's a pain in the butt because they fight each other.

Windows 10 is a nuisance to find the printer driver settings to turn off the profiling it does when you choose the paper type. It takes some digging and unfortunately I can't remember where its stored. I use photoshop or Lightroom and have installed the Canon print pro utility, in there it's obvious and I st it to use the software to profile.

However !! Photoshop with a profiled screen and profiled printer prints with a slight brownish cast, very faint but obvious even with ICC profiles from an Xrite device. Using the very same profile in Lightroom I get a bang on print. I've spent hours faffing about and still never found the answer.
 
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Purple or Magenta tint can quite often be down to what's called double profiling.

You may know already and if you do my apologies.

Double profiling occurs where the printer driver controls the colour, and also the editing program controls the profile as well. It's a pain in the butt because they fight each other.

Windows 10 is a nuisance to find the printer driver settings to turn off the profiling it does when you choose the paper type. It takes some digging and unfortunately I can't remember where its stored.

Its under colour intensity on the printer preferences page. Select manual then set, on the next page you need to highlight none then ok
Only know because I double checked my printer after not using it for a while and having to reset a few things
 
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@ChrisH just wanted to check I had given you the correct information, basically right, but it was from memory.
Just looked and its as follows

Right click on Printer>Printing Preferences>Main>Color/Intensity>Manual>Set>Matching>None>OK

Glad I looked, for some reason mine had reset again to Driver Matching, not wanted because I use a custom Permajet Profile .
 
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I have the ip8750 printer and it's really great with very good quality prints. I did look at the 100s at the time of buying and it's much larger, I don't really have the space for it. If you do go for it I am sure it'll give slightly better quality.
I got started with my own printing more than 2 years ago with this printer. In that time I have very very happy with all my results.
I do hope to move into a bigger house one day with my own office. When that happens I'll also look into getting a bigger better printer.

By the way it's not cheaper and there will be some wasted paper and ink. Even after all the calibration there will be something that'll catch you out. But it's satisfying to go from taking the pictures to the end result of printing it yourself. I am happy to pay for that feeling and satisfaction.

Never had problems with b&w prints myself. I have printed a few.
 
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Just a quick point, the only difference between the 100 and the 100s is that the 100s has Wifi connectivity.


I have the straight PRO-100 and it does wireless. Only just set it up to do so because Mrs Nod wants to use it because her old all-in-one has just soiled its nappy in a terminal way (filled it's nozzle wiping pads)!
 
Hi, Bit late to the convo but i recently purchased a ip8750 and the b&w prints were driving me nuts, Magenta cast on every print. I did find a solution though.... When printing B&W now i dont use the papers icc profile, I am printing through Photoshop, Click print settings, click grayscale printing and always click color/intensity Manual adjustment. Paper type just choose photo paper glossy or matte but not a specific paper.
Then back on the PS print screen , set photoshop to manage colors, use printer profile sGray. Choose hardproofing and for proof setup click custom and choose gray gamma 2.2.
when i did this my prints came out without the magenta cast!
 
Thats probably because the Epson's only used the black ink as i believe, whereas Canon use all. Two things though with the 2880, pigment ink and magenta clogging issues

Yes the R2880 was excellent for B&W and used just the Black and grey inks. I had my R2880 for 12 years and it was still working OK when I eventually replaced it with a new Epson SC P600. The only Magenta ink problems I heard of with the R2880 was using one of the continuous ink supply companies. Why would pigment ink be a problem? I used to have a dye based printers many years ago and this suffered from the fact that the final image is very much affected by the base colour of the paper which is not the case for pigment inks. I have also found that when I have sent images to Sim Lab for printing, the colour prints look very similar to those from my P600 (and the previous R2880). Once you have everything calibrated and set up, it should be straightforward to change between a commercial printer and home printing.

Dave
 
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