Well there is a turn up for the books!
I ordered the neewer gimble around 11am Friday, the ( free) delivery ETA was Weds / thurs.
It arrived on my doorstep 13:30 today 26-27 hours that's not bad service Amazon
But I have to add my doorstep is NOT my designated safe place
I have to say, straight out of the box, the movement is very fluid, as good as my Manfrotto ball heads.
In fact I need to add a little tension to the adjustment screws for my own "ease of use"
2 minor niggles
1) I really couldn't understand why I couldn't get the camera level, on the tripod ...
And then I adjusted the tripod collar on my lens
2) I'm not really a fan of the tripod mounting plate, TBH. I much prefer the quick release system of the Manfrotto heads.
But I'm sure given time I'll get used to it.
In conclusion, I'm not sure why I didn't buy one years ago