Olympus OM-D E-M5, E-M1, E-M10 - Mk1, Mk2 & Mk3 Owners Thread

Oh dear, it doesn't take long to see that eglobal have a horrifying amount of negative reviews and discussions about their lack of refunds and customer support. I'll be steering clear of them I think, just not worth it.
I've used E-Infinity a couple of times in the last year with no issues. However, their stock of Olympus is either everything available or nothing for about 4-6 weeks then it just appears again. It appears they are in a lull currently.
 
Oh dear, it doesn't take long to see that eglobal have a horrifying amount of negative reviews and discussions about their lack of refunds and customer support. I'll be steering clear of them I think, just not worth it.
WEX have one for £624 I think they offer a one year warranty
 
I wouldn't touch e-global. E-infinity have it for £699 but out of stock, and HDEW have it for £769.

Hmmm pipping it a little out of budget really, honestly even the 550 from ebay with 90 days is pushing it a bit for used.

WEX have one for £624 I think they offer a one year warranty
Plus 30 day no quibble change your mind

Someone else must have seen it, it's not there now. wonder how many actuations it had
 
Hmmm pipping it a little out of budget really, honestly even the 550 from ebay with 90 days is pushing it a bit for used.




Someone else must have seen it, it's not there now. wonder how many actuations it had
So where are these OMD bodies I thought everyone was selling up as the Olympus is dead in the water ha ha as @the black fox as Jeff rightly pointed out there is no mass exodus yes some toggers will sell up but not in the droves predicted by the usual You Tube click baiters (we all know who they are) £550 appears to be the bottom end on pricing (source E-Bay completed listings) Keep looking Donnie you will find one that matches your budget


 
So where are these OMD bodies I thought everyone was selling up as the Olympus is dead in the water ha ha as @the black fox as Jeff rightly pointed out there is no mass exodus yes some toggers will sell up but not in the droves predicted by the usual You Tube click baiters (we all know who they are) £550 appears to be the bottom end on pricing (source E-Bay completed listings) Keep looking Donnie you will find one that matches your budget



Yes Im in no rush, I genuinely dont think there will be an exodus to be honest, I'll be very surprised if Im wrong. I really like oly stuff since moving from canon some years ago now and have no intention of selling up. Second hands always been kind to me, it's just about finding the right item. That LCE link has a mark2 at only £550 and less than 4000 actuations :eek: which I nearly snapped up, but a couple of the buttons on the back including the menu one are badly worn. Silly little thing but it's enough to make me wait a little longer even though they do a 6 month warranty.
 
So where are these OMD bodies I thought everyone was selling up

Well for some of us - even if they are not our primary cameras - they are still as brilliantly compact, well featured, and usable as before those announcements.

I can't see myself selling my MFT gear - even though I mainly use newer Fuji gear these days the MFT kit is something I can keep in a small pack ready to go at all times that doesn't intrude and is capable of dealing with any opportunity along the way.
 
Yes, the mark 1 is well known for not being great noise wise on long exposures vs the mark 2 unfortunately. Just a matter of finding one at a good price now. I keep looking at Great Western Cameras on ebay that seems to regularly sell them at £550 refurbished including a 90 day warranty.
Having visited the shop several times my opinion is that they're a bunch of onanites. One day I asked for a particular filter, was presented with a standard one, said I want multi-coated and was told all filters were multi-coated. I don't think I've been back since.
 
I sold all my Nikon kit. Now I cant decide between M1 iii or M1X. Any suggestions please? Wildlife generally.

.... I mainly shoot wildlife from bugs to bears (see my Flickr pages linked in my signature below) and very happily used the Canon EOS system until November 2019. I have always found that being in the field with two camera bodies is a major advantage for lots of reasons.

I chose the Olympus E-M1X and when it came to choosing my second body it was another M1X rather than a M1mkIII. But your decision can only be made by you - It's such an individual choice fundamentally based on your personal preferences. In my case, I don't like the physical handling of smaller cameras and would always want a grip anyway as my Canons were an EOS-R + grip and 1DX-2.

This comparison may help your decision but I recommend to physically handle both camera bodies (It's a 'which-girlfriend*-do-you-prefer?' type of question). * Substitute whatever gender/transgender politically correct tedium you prefer! :


But remember that it's always Horses-for-Courses and there is no such thing as a perfect camera.

HTH :)
 
I sold all my Nikon kit. Now I cant decide between M1 iii or M1X. Any suggestions please? Wildlife generally.
Both are more than capable, I would say that it would mainly come down to whether you prefer the extra size of the EM1x or want the smaller size of the EM1-III. For me I'd rather have the smaller EM1-III so you can have a smaller form factor when you want it, and then add a grip if you want the extra size for larger lenses and/or battery life.
 
My go-to lens for surfers is the ED 40-150mm F/2.8 Pro + MC-20 offering a maximum reach of 600mm (equivalent) which can easily be handheld.

But recently I knocked the lens hood (neoprene covered) on a rock which caused the hood to come apart at its mechanism for cleverly (too cleverly!) sliding back for stowage or changing filter. It lost a couple of its tiny ball bearings in the sand on the beach. I have since read that this is a very common problem indeed. Fortunately one of my besties came to my rescue and being 'Made In The Royal Navy - Born In London', he has temporarily fixed it until my 60 squid replacement arrives.

RACING TO THE GREEN DOOR! by Robin Procter, on Flickr
 
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So does this doubling up because of the sensor size also get used with the aperture as well?

Whole world of pain discussing that issue, best to just go on the usual two stops lost with a 2x T/C
 
Equivalent reach of 600mm, surely?
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Yep, 600mm (y)

.... Yep, I was thinking about my other body's go-to which is ED 300mm F/4 Pro + MC-14 and also at hand when photographing surfers and often for wildlife too when I tend to mount my macro rig on the second body.

My original post now corrected - Thanks guys!
 
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Ah ok :)

I was just wondering if with the 2x we are talking 600mm f/11 (ish)

.... The aperture maximum offered will depend on the lens, especially if a zoom.

No need to get lost on the technicalities - Rest assured that even when the aperture is at its widest open on the Olympus ED 40-150mm Pro zoom with the 2x mounted, being m4/3 the Depth of Focus Field (DoF) is usually fine for telephoto shots. Being across a seascape, the DoF is usually easily seen with the naked eye. Don't get lost and drown in pixel-peeping either!

Just shoot! You won't be disappointed with either the Olympus MC-14 or MC-20 on any of the Pro lenses they fit. I think any combo of these is stellar and there are several established and highly rated professionals out there who would back me up.
 
EM1X + 40-150 f2.8 Brands HatchView attachment 285778
Hi Robert great set of Motorsport images a question for you do you use mechanical shutter rather than silent shutter for Motorsports? My reason for asking is that I read mechanical shutter is better at preventing rolling shutter wonder what your real life experience has taught regarding shooting this type of subject
 
So does this doubling up because of the sensor size also get used with the aperture as well?
It gets a bit confusing tbh. In terms of light gathering the aperture is the aperture, so an f2.8 will gather the same amount of light in terms of exposure whether it be on m4/3, FF or whatever. What I mean by this is that if an exposure required ISO 200, f2.8 and 1/1000 on FF the same shot would require ISO 200, f2.8 and 1/1000 on m4/3 (I’ll not get into all the nuances of light transmission)

However it is the DOF that is different, and that is purely down to the crop factor and focal length. For example if you shot at 100mm f2.8 on FF, to get the same framing on m4/3 you would have to use a 50mm lens. Obviously DOF is related to the focal length of the lens (amongst other things) so if you’re shooting from the the same spot using a 50mm f2.8 lens it’s going to have a greater DOF than that shot with a 100mm f2.8 lens, does this make sense? If you wanted to ‘replicate’ the same DOF as 100 f2.8 on FF you’d have to use a 50mm f1.4 on m4/3. It‘s not exact, but near as dammit ;)
 
Hi Robert great set of Motorsport images a question for you do you use mechanical shutter rather than silent shutter for Motorsports? My reason for asking is that I read mechanical shutter is better at preventing rolling shutter wonder what your real life experience has taught regarding shooting this type of subject

.... Doesn't a silent shutter setting always reduce and compromise the fps frame rate? I never use silent on moving targets for this reason as I want the frame choice after the event.
 
all this tech stuff is making my head swim ,just get out and take the photos is the answer .. so heres another one from before the world went crazy a nicely posing skylark
all aboard by jeff and jan cohen, on Flickr
 
No need to get lost on the technicalities

Don't get lost and drown in pixel-peeping either!

Spoken like a true M43 convert ;)

It gets a bit confusing tbh. In terms of light gathering the aperture is the aperture, so an f2.8 will gather the same amount of light in terms of exposure whether it be on m4/3, FF or whatever. What I mean by this is that if an exposure required ISO 200, f2.8 and 1/1000 on FF the same shot would require ISO 200, f2.8 and 1/1000 on m4/3 (I’ll not get into all the nuances of light transmission)

However it is the DOF that is different, and that is purely down to the crop factor and focal length. For example if you shot at 100mm f2.8 on FF, to get the same framing on m4/3 you would have to use a 50mm lens. Obviously DOF is related to the focal length of the lens (amongst other things) so if you’re shooting from the the same spot using a 50mm f2.8 lens it’s going to have a greater DOF than that shot with a 100mm f2.8 lens, does this make sense? If you wanted to ‘replicate’ the same DOF as 100 f2.8 on FF you’d have to use a 50mm f1.4 on m4/3. It‘s not exact, but near as dammit ;)


Thanks.

The only reason I asked was because Canon are just about to release a 600mm f/11 and I was wondering if it would be a fair comparison on the R series (quality of glass dependant of course)
 
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Don't think so Robin I think the fps can only be slowed if you set focus priory, on my EM1X (now sold ) i always used silent for bif if fact just about everything else was silent shutter.

Rob.
 
It gets a bit confusing tbh. In terms of light gathering the aperture is the aperture, so an f2.8 will gather the same amount of light in terms of exposure whether it be on m4/3, FF or whatever. What I mean by this is that if an exposure required ISO 200, f2.8 and 1/1000 on FF the same shot would require ISO 200, f2.8 and 1/1000 on m4/3 (I’ll not get into all the nuances of light transmission)

However it is the DOF that is different, and that is purely down to the crop factor and focal length. For example if you shot at 100mm f2.8 on FF, to get the same framing on m4/3 you would have to use a 50mm lens. Obviously DOF is related to the focal length of the lens (amongst other things) so if you’re shooting from the the same spot using a 50mm f2.8 lens it’s going to have a greater DOF than that shot with a 100mm f2.8 lens, does this make sense? If you wanted to ‘replicate’ the same DOF as 100 f2.8 on FF you’d have to use a 50mm f1.4 on m4/3. It‘s not exact, but near as dammit ;)

Also(?) as sensor size goes down DoF increases ~ I cannot recall the exact reason (diffraction and photosite distances?) and that is a reason that those that come to 'normal' cameras from a smartphone..... sometimes complain about "why isn't the photo sharp from back to front like my phone pictures....." ;)
 
.... Doesn't a silent shutter setting always reduce and compromise the fps frame rate? I never use silent on moving targets for this reason as I want the frame choice after the event.
I thought you could get faster fps with Electronic shutter? Mechanical shutter gives you a max of 15fps, electronic shutter 60fps (y)
The only reason I asked was because Canon are just about to release a 600mm f/11 and I was wondering if it would be a fair comparison on the R series (quality of glass dependant of course)
The Olympus 300mm would give you a lens equivalent to a 600mm f8 in terms of DOF (y)
Also(?) as sensor size goes down DoF increases ~ I cannot recall the exact reason (diffraction and photosite distances?) and that is a reason that those that come to 'normal' cameras from a smartphone..... sometimes complain about "why isn't the photo sharp from back to front like my phone pictures....." ;)
It does, but it's not directly due to the size of the sensor, but more the focal length of the lens needed in order to achieve the same framing. Because of the small sensor of the phone it's something like a 4.25mm lens to give a 28mm FOV, so you get the DOF of a 4.25mm lens which of course is huge.
 
I thought you could get faster fps with Electronic shutter? Mechanical shutter gives you a max of 15fps, electronic shutter 60fps (y)

Yes correct but my question related to rolling shutter which I read somewhere that fast moving action such as Motorsport could suffer from rolling shutter using silent shutter just wanted to know if this in internet talk or fact
 
I thought you could get faster fps with Electronic shutter? Mechanical shutter gives you a max of 15fps, electronic shutter 60fps (y)

Yes correct but my question related to rolling shutter which I read somewhere that fast moving action such as Motorsport could suffer from rolling shutter using silent shutter just wanted to know if this in internet talk or fact
Indeed it can but if your panning with the subject to the camera it is almost stationery so it is the background that would show it i.e post would lean over .
Rob.
 
As an ex Canon user, now Olympus user ;) ~ I think the new R5 will be a game changer.................why, well they claim their Eye AF will work for both human and animal eyes....................combined with their IBIS and 45MP sensor I can see that oh so appealing to the wildlife photographer community.

So maybe is a few years time, should Olympus not be able to "stay in the game" then, though, the weight question will still be something to be for me very concerned over.....but it is not all about me :LOL: .........???
 
As an ex Canon user, now Olympus user ;) ~ I think the new R5 will be a game changer.................why, well they claim their Eye AF will work for both human and animal eyes....................combined with their IBIS and 45MP sensor I can see that oh so appealing to the wildlife photographer community.

So maybe is a few years time, should Olympus not be able to "stay in the game" then, though, the weight question will still be something to be for me very concerned over.....but it is not all about me :LOL: .........???
As long as you can throw 5 grand + camera and lenses at them ..not unless I you know a good divorce solicitor
 
As an ex Canon user, now Olympus user ;) ~ I think the new R5 will be a game changer.................why, well they claim their Eye AF will work for both human and animal eyes....................combined with their IBIS and 45MP sensor I can see that oh so appealing to the wildlife photographer community.

So maybe is a few years time, should Olympus not be able to "stay in the game" then, though, the weight question will still be something to be for me very concerned over.....but it is not all about me :LOL: .........???
Not sure why it would be a game changer? The A7R IV has human and animal eye AF, IBIS and a 61mp sensor. Plus it’s about £1k cheaper (y)
 
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