Selling up / Moving to Nikon Z series

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Evening all I’m massively undecided on what to do I need some help if you’ve already moved over to the Z series

My three options are
1. Keep what I’ve got
2. Sell and get the same sort of set up in Z series
3. Sell up and take a break

I’m scared I’ll regret it any of those

So I’ve currently got the D850 16-35 24-70 70-200 and 200-500 over the years I’ve had many different lenses mid range and top end and eventually settled on a happy medium with what I’ve got.

10 month ago we had our first child and since I can count on one hand how many times I’ve been out with the camera mainly cause I’d rather be at home with my boy but secondly the thought of lugging the kit around doesn’t appeal to me any more

I’ve mainly shoot landscape and wildlife but I just don’t have the time to put in the time and effort they both take just now but by the end of the this summer with my wife going back to work and nursery starting and regular baby sitting I could see my self getting back out

So has anyone had similar kit and jumped to the z series do you regret it??

I think selling up I’d regret cause I’d ended wasting the money on other stuff so I think that’s less likely

Any input would be great
 
Take videos of the newborn while you can, they grow up so quickly
 
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Not sure there'd be a great weight saving moving to the Z series - the body is lighter, but the FF lenses not significantly so. I've reasonably similar kit and I don't particularly look forward to carting it around on family days out - I swapped the 200-500 for a 300 F4 PF and TC and that made a HUGE difference to the kit and I've never looked back. I was shooting with primes for landscape, but picked up a 70-200 F4 which has effectively replaced a 50 1.8, 85 1.8 and 105 macro for most trips and the flexibility is great for shots of the kids. I tend to chuck in a Raynox 150 in case I think I might need to get closer than the 70-200 or 300 allows. My kit bag for family trips generally consists of: 20 1.8, 35 1.8, 70-200 F4, 300 F4 and 1.4x TC. I really could do to consolidate the D810 and D500 into one body (probably either a D850 or Z7), but otherwise it's pretty manageable...

I often find myself thinking about a complete change of direction, but I think that's mostly GAS!
 
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Evening all I’m massively undecided on what to do I need some help if you’ve already moved over to the Z series

My three options are
1. Keep what I’ve got
2. Sell and get the same sort of set up in Z series
3. Sell up and take a break

I’m scared I’ll regret it any of those

So I’ve currently got the D850 16-35 24-70 70-200 and 200-500 over the years I’ve had many different lenses mid range and top end and eventually settled on a happy medium with what I’ve got.

10 month ago we had our first child and since I can count on one hand how many times I’ve been out with the camera mainly cause I’d rather be at home with my boy but secondly the thought of lugging the kit around doesn’t appeal to me any more

I’ve mainly shoot landscape and wildlife but I just don’t have the time to put in the time and effort they both take just now but by the end of the this summer with my wife going back to work and nursery starting and regular baby sitting I could see my self getting back out

So has anyone had similar kit and jumped to the z series do you regret it??

I think selling up I’d regret cause I’d ended wasting the money on other stuff so I think that’s less likely

Any input would be great
I moved from the D850 to the Z7 and as you can imagine there’s pros and cons for each.

I personally prefer using mirrorless, I like that live view af works as well as the viewfinder, and that it switches from VF to EVF automatically. I personally preferred the Z7 in the hand.

IQ is nigh on identical as you’d imagine.

Where the D850 is better is frame rate (the higher frame rate of the Z7 doesn’t give you a real time view) and AF is better, especially in low light.

In terms of weight saving the Z7 body is noticeably lighter, but as mentioned the lenses are no lighter. That being said they do a 24-70mm f4 for the Z which they don’t for the F mount which is lighter than both the f mount 24-70mm f2.8 and 24-120mm f4.

So to sum up there is a weight saving to be had, if you choose the right lenses.

In my quest for weight saving I’ve now gone a step further and gone for the Sony A7R IV, I can use the 100-400mm in crop mode giving me 600mm reach and still have 26mp to play with, it’s 1.34kg vs 1.93kg of the Tamron 150-600mm and 2.3kg of the Nikon 200-500mm

The Sony’s not as nice in the hand but it’s not bad, and is a sacrifice I’m willing to make.


Not sure there'd be a great weight saving moving to the Z series - the body is lighter, but the FF lenses not significantly so. I've reasonably similar kit and I don't particularly look forward to carting it around on family days out - I swapped the 200-500 for a 300 F4 PF and TC and that made a HUGE difference to the kit and I've never looked back. I was shooting with primes for landscape, but picked up a 70-200 F4 which has effectively replaced a 50 1.8, 85 1.8 and 105 macro for most trips and the flexibility is great for shots of the kids. I tend to chuck in a Raynox 150 in case I think I might need to get closer than the 70-200 or 300 allows. My kit bag for family trips generally consists of: 20 1.8, 35 1.8, 70-200 F4, 300 F4 and 1.4x TC. I really could do to consolidate the D810 and D500 into one body (probably either a D850 or Z7), but otherwise it's pretty manageable...

I often find myself thinking about a complete change of direction, but I think that's mostly GAS!
As above there can be weight saving depending on choices. The Z7 is just over half the weight of the D850 (y)
 
Not sure there'd be a great weight saving moving to the Z series - the body is lighter, but the FF lenses not significantly so. I've reasonably similar kit and I don't particularly look forward to carting it around on family days out - I swapped the 200-500 for a 300 F4 PF and TC and that made a HUGE difference to the kit and I've never looked back. I was shooting with primes for landscape, but picked up a 70-200 F4 which has effectively replaced a 50 1.8, 85 1.8 and 105 macro for most trips and the flexibility is great for shots of the kids. I tend to chuck in a Raynox 150 in case I think I might need to get closer than the 70-200 or 300 allows. My kit bag for family trips generally consists of: 20 1.8, 35 1.8, 70-200 F4, 300 F4 and 1.4x TC. I really could do to consolidate the D810 and D500 into one body (probably either a D850 or Z7), but otherwise it's pretty manageable...

I often find myself thinking about a complete change of direction, but I think that's mostly GAS!

I moved from the D850 to the Z7 and as you can imagine there’s pros and cons for each.

I personally prefer using mirrorless, I like that live view af works as well as the viewfinder, and that it switches from VF to EVF automatically. I personally preferred the Z7 in the hand.

IQ is nigh on identical as you’d imagine.

Where the D850 is better is frame rate (the higher frame rate of the Z7 doesn’t give you a real time view) and AF is better, especially in low light.

In terms of weight saving the Z7 body is noticeably lighter, but as mentioned the lenses are no lighter. That being said they do a 24-70mm f4 for the Z which they don’t for the F mount which is lighter than both the f mount 24-70mm f2.8 and 24-120mm f4.

So to sum up there is a weight saving to be had, if you choose the right lenses.

In my quest for weight saving I’ve now gone a step further and gone for the Sony A7R IV, I can use the 100-400mm in crop mode giving me 600mm reach and still have 26mp to play with, it’s 1.34kg vs 1.93kg of the Tamron 150-600mm and 2.3kg of the Nikon 200-500mm

The Sony’s not as nice in the hand but it’s not bad, and is a sacrifice I’m willing to make.



As above there can be weight saving depending on choices. The Z7 is just over half the weight of the D850 (y)

Thanks for the detailed reply's i dont think its a quick decision but I'm half leaning over to selling it all then build back up so as a starting point Z7 + 24-70 f4 for landscapes and maybe the 300 F4 pf for wildlife and 35 1.8 for the baby i think that would cover me for now until I know I can get out more and and know where my photography will take me

But then there is the option of Sony but thats the dark side for me and would have to be something really worth while to leave Nikon as ive always been with them! but your Sony suggestion could be one to look at as a friend shoots sony and could lend test a couple of lenses

arrrgh heads in a pickle
 
Thanks for the detailed reply's i dont think its a quick decision but I'm half leaning over to selling it all then build back up so as a starting point Z7 + 24-70 f4 for landscapes and maybe the 300 F4 pf for wildlife and 35 1.8 for the baby i think that would cover me for now until I know I can get out more and and know where my photography will take me

But then there is the option of Sony but thats the dark side for me and would have to be something really worth while to leave Nikon as ive always been with them! but your Sony suggestion could be one to look at as a friend shoots sony and could lend test a couple of lenses

arrrgh heads in a pickle
Don't rush it, it's a huge investment to switch systems so you need to make sure it's going to be right. The general IV Sonys (or A9-II) have been the first where the ergonomics have been 'good enough', prior to that I wouldn't contemplate it. As I said before the grip doesn't feel as nice as the Z7, and the room between grip and lens is a bit tight (no way you can wear gloves) but I get on with it OK. There's parts of the Sony I prefer and parts of the Z7 I prefer, but as a system the Sony works better for me at present for the reasons mentioned.

The Z7 EVF and LCD are better than the Sony too, even though the Sony has a higher res EVF I believe.

The Z7 would feel more familiar although there's still quite a bit to learn. I don't find choosing AF modes as easy/good on mirrorless, I like the way it is on Nikon DSLRs. Also, drive modes are easier to access on DSLRs imo with the dials rather than having to press buttons.
 
Evening all I’m massively undecided on what to do I need some help if you’ve already moved over to the Z series

My three options are
1. Keep what I’ve got
2. Sell and get the same sort of set up in Z series
3. Sell up and take a break

I’m scared I’ll regret it any of those

So I’ve currently got the D850 16-35 24-70 70-200 and 200-500 over the years I’ve had many different lenses mid range and top end and eventually settled on a happy medium with what I’ve got.

10 month ago we had our first child and since I can count on one hand how many times I’ve been out with the camera mainly cause I’d rather be at home with my boy but secondly the thought of lugging the kit around doesn’t appeal to me any more

I’ve mainly shoot landscape and wildlife but I just don’t have the time to put in the time and effort they both take just now but by the end of the this summer with my wife going back to work and nursery starting and regular baby sitting I could see my self getting back out

So has anyone had similar kit and jumped to the z series do you regret it??

I think selling up I’d regret cause I’d ended wasting the money on other stuff so I think that’s less likely

Any input would be great

Having children is a major life-stage. Obvious when you think about it but sometimes seems to take us chaps a bit by surprise, including me, but it changes everything. New priorites, different demands, your life and home turned upsidedown. And no spare cash.

All absolutely worth it of course, but not all a bed of roses for sure. My darkroom was the first thing to go, then the motorbike. I held on to the SLR outfit for a while, but it never got used so I swapped all that for a nice little Olympus compact and frankly never looked back. It came with us everywhere and did a brilliant job. In the same situation today, I'd obviously use a smartphone but would also treat myself to one of the many fantastic high-end digital compacts around now.

After many years absence, on my return to the land of the living, digital was in full swing so it was really a fresh start. I jumped back in with both feet :love:
 
Might as well sell it all then.

Agree, looks like you've lost interest a tad, not surprising with a little one new on the scene. I think a new camera would give you a short term buzz but it'll probably fade. It happened to me 30 years ago though I didn't have the luxury of a smartphone then. I used an Olympus XA for 8 years ( and was very happy with it) before I got back into cameras again.
 
I had a similar dilemma 40 years ago, loads of 35mm kit (3 Canon A1 bodies and 10 lenses) and a a fully equipped darkroom !
When our first child came along my darkroom became the nursery and I understandably lost interest in photography. Chatting with my local photographic shop they offered to take all my kit in exchange for new Canon EOS with a 35-100 zoom and build-in flash. Never looked back and I am so glad I made that choice, every time I look back at the 1000's of pictures of my children growing up. Now I have just invested in some kit to repeat the process with Grand Children, so my take would be - go for the Z !
 
Don't rush it, it's a huge investment to switch systems so you need to make sure it's going to be right. The general IV Sonys (or A9-II) have been the first where the ergonomics have been 'good enough', prior to that I wouldn't contemplate it. As I said before the grip doesn't feel as nice as the Z7, and the room between grip and lens is a bit tight (no way you can wear gloves) but I get on with it OK. There's parts of the Sony I prefer and parts of the Z7 I prefer, but as a system the Sony works better for me at present for the reasons mentioned.

The Z7 EVF and LCD are better than the Sony too, even though the Sony has a higher res EVF I believe.

The Z7 would feel more familiar although there's still quite a bit to learn. I don't find choosing AF modes as easy/good on mirrorless, I like the way it is on Nikon DSLRs. Also, drive modes are easier to access on DSLRs imo with the dials rather than having to press buttons.

Yeah it would be a bigger step to go to sony as id have to learn a whole lot more which is keeping me Ninon but then the thought of really having to learn does excite me so then Sony wins

Having children is a major life-stage. Obvious when you think about it but sometimes seems to take us chaps a bit by surprise, including me, but it changes everything. New priorities, different demands, your life and home turned upside-down. And no spare cash.

All absolutely worth it of course, but not all a bed of roses for sure. My darkroom was the first thing to go, then the motorbike. I held on to the SLR outfit for a while, but it never got used so I swapped all that for a nice little Olympus compact and frankly never looked back. It came with us everywhere and did a brilliant job. In the same situation today, I'd obviously use a smartphone but would also treat myself to one of the many fantastic high-end digital compacts around now.

After many years absence, on my return to the land of the living, digital was in full swing so it was really a fresh start. I jumped back in with both feet :love:

totally upside down but its been amazing and a shame my photography had to give, hopefully get back to it proeprly over time!

Agree, looks like you've lost interest a tad, not surprising with a little one new on the scene.

definitely agree with that statement
 
Yeah it would be a bigger step to go to sony as id have to learn a whole lot more which is keeping me Ninon but then the thought of really having to learn does excite me so then Sony wins
TBH even the Z is a bit of a learning curve, but obviously not as much. I don't want to sway you one way or the other tbh, both are great, both have pros and cons.


definitely agree with that statement
I go through phases of falling out of love with photography tbh, but then something gets me back into it at some point.
 
Having children is a major life-stage. Obvious when you think about it but sometimes seems to take us chaps a bit by surprise, including me, but it changes everything. New priorites, different demands, your life and home turned upsidedown. And no spare cash.

All absolutely worth it of course, but not all a bed of roses for sure. My darkroom was the first thing to go, then the motorbike. I held on to the SLR outfit for a while, but it never got used so I swapped all that for a nice little Olympus compact and frankly never looked back. It came with us everywhere and did a brilliant job. In the same situation today, I'd obviously use a smartphone but would also treat myself to one of the many fantastic high-end digital compacts around now.

After many years absence, on my return to the land of the living, digital was in full swing so it was really a fresh start. I jumped back in with both feet :love:

FWIW this was my experience too, and even though I expected it, a lot of stuff changed. I'd been running a part-time photo business & kids + house move & new job meant that I wound things down until I vertually stopped taking pictures for about 10 years.
 
Having children is a major life-stage. Obvious when you think about it but sometimes seems to take us chaps a bit by surprise, including me, but it changes everything. New priorites, different demands, your life and home turned upsidedown. And no spare cash.

All absolutely worth it of course, but not all a bed of roses for sure.

This about sums it up! Photography usually takes a back seat to family days out, but I still usually cart at least some of my gear to capture moments of the kids enjoying themselves as they grow up (and before they grow up too much and object to having a camera pointed at them!)
 
No one has mentioned it yet but perhaps the Nikon Z50 kit with the 16-50 and 50-250 will keep you going for sometime. You could always get the FTZ adapter and keep the 200-500 if you felt you would still ever do some longer lens wildlife.

I bought the Z6 and associated lenses and don't regret it one little bit. But even they are a little chunky in comparison to the Z50. If you just want something small, compact but good image quality then that could get you through while your son goes through the first years of his life.
 
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I'm going to go and look at some Sony gear next week (hopefully) so if that goes well and i like the look at feel it looks like i'll be jumping ship and selling all my Nikon kit

Whats swayed my decision is a Sony and 35 1.8 is small enough for walk about and to leave lying around to get more photos of my boy growing up ill then rebuild my kit based on where my photography takes me landscape or wildlife or both who knows

So if that goes ahead ill have for sale and will make for sale posts
Nikon D850
Nikon 16-35 f4
Nikon 24-70 f2.8
Nikon 70-200 f2.8 VRii
Nikon 200-500
 
I’ve got the Z6 and lenses and love it. But the lenses don’t fall readily into the “light” category. For when I want something less bulky but still giving good quality I’ve recently acquired a Sony A6000 and a couple of lenses, all used, for very little money (comparatively speaking).
 
I have a Sony 35mm f1.8 and I think it's a good lens. It's very sharp or at least easily sharp enough everywhere from wide open, it's fast to focus and it focuses quite close which comes in handy for close up and detail shots. The only downsides are some ca perhaps mostly in backlit scenarios which I don't think is too bad and some also question the bokeh but I personally think it's par for the course for a sharp and relatively small and light 35mm f1.8.

This sort of good modern lens + mirrorless + face / eye detect are a joy to use for people shots and of course the face / eye detect works just about everywhere in the frame freeing you up to concentrate on composition and capturing the moment rather than faffing about trying to move focus points or compromising your composition with a DSLR because all the focus points are clustered around the centre.

Good luck choosing. Although I have a Sony A7 I do think that just about any of the modern mirrorless system will be a revelation for you.
 
First year is always crazy and no time to think about hobbies. Mine is now 2 1/4 and photography is a great hobby to have with a child as you can slip out before they’ve woken up/after they’ve gone to bed to catch dawn/dusk. You’ll get the bug again I’m sure. I’m thinking of switching to Z, partly for eye AF (children move fast) partly focus peaking (I’ve got my eye on the Samyang manual focus 135mm), partly weight. Also my D610 is now fairly old, tech-wise. I’d hold fire until you get the itch back and swap to Z6...
 
I'm going to go and look at some Sony gear next week (hopefully) so if that goes well and i like the look at feel it looks like i'll be jumping ship and selling all my Nikon kit

Whats swayed my decision is a Sony and 35 1.8 is small enough for walk about and to leave lying around to get more photos of my boy growing up ill then rebuild my kit based on where my photography takes me landscape or wildlife or both who knows

So if that goes ahead ill have for sale and will make for sale posts
Nikon D850
Nikon 16-35 f4
Nikon 24-70 f2.8
Nikon 70-200 f2.8 VRii
Nikon 200-500
TBH I wouldn't exactly call the Z7 and 35mm f1.8z a large combo, but the Sony and 35mm does look a noticeably smaller package. This is a bit misleading though as the bodies aren't lined up due to the larger eyecup of the Z7.

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TBH I wouldn't exactly call the Z7 and 35mm f1.8z a large combo, but the Sony and 35mm does look a noticeably smaller package. This is a bit misleading though as the bodies aren't lined up due to the larger eyecup of the Z7.

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No definitely not a big combo and I imagine very close to the same Sony combo I think I feel the time is right to possibly jump ship but then like I say mirrorless might just be to small for my hands so might end up sticking with the d850 I still to this day regret selling my d750 I still rate it as the best all round camera I’ve ever had

And I might again regret ever jumping ship but I suppose you live and learn
 
Shows how small the 35mm f2.8 is. The Samyang 45mm f1.8's a small lens too, and renders really nicely imo

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The thought of new gear is exciting me again it’s just a massive leap in to the unknown I mean I love my Nikon glass and gear but it’s just not getting the use it deserves and the D850 and 24-70 big heavy expensive unit to leave lying about when a 10 month old is on the move and wants everything

So we’ll see I might just not like the feel of the Sony and take a break from photography gear for a while I know I’ll regret doing that when my mates plan a Scotland photo trip in 2021 ‍♂️

I think I need to read and speak to people who’ve had the same sort of kit and jumped over to see if there is any regret
 
The Samyang 35mm f2.8's a good alternative to the Sony Zeiss 35mm, and half the price.

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The thought of new gear is exciting me again it’s just a massive leap in to the unknown I mean I love my Nikon glass and gear but it’s just not getting the use it deserves and the D850 and 24-70 big heavy expensive unit to leave lying about when a 10 month old is on the move and wants everything

So we’ll see I might just not like the feel of the Sony and take a break from photography gear for a while I know I’ll regret doing that when my mates plan a Scotland photo trip in 2021 ‍♂

I think I need to read and speak to people who’ve had the same sort of kit and jumped over to see if there is any regret
I'm pretty sure you'll find the Sony isn't as nice in the hand as the Nikons, the Z7 is probably the nicest camera I've held. But it's a question of weight, lenses, functions etc etc.
 
The thought of new gear is exciting me again it’s just a massive leap in to the unknown I mean I love my Nikon glass and gear but it’s just not getting the use it deserves and the D850 and 24-70 big heavy expensive unit to leave lying about when a 10 month old is on the move and wants everything

So we’ll see I might just not like the feel of the Sony and take a break from photography gear for a while I know I’ll regret doing that when my mates plan a Scotland photo trip in 2021 ‍♂

I think I need to read and speak to people who’ve had the same sort of kit and jumped over to see if there is any regret
I went from a D810 to a D850 but very nearly swapped to a Sony A7 system. I didn’t and still don’t see the Nikon Z system as a viable alternative to the Sony system.

I couldn’t ‘replace’ my Nikon F mount lenses in the Z system but could have happily found e mount replacements.

If you do go down the Sony route will be interesting to see howyou think it compares to the D850, many times I’ve regretted not going Sony (and many times I haven’t!).
 
Different opinion, sounds like a bit of GAS. Keep your current gear and use it when you get a break from family life for a bit of me time.

Get something like the Fuji X100 series as an everyday camera (or just use your phone) for taking pics of your growing family.

I’ll second this.

I had a Nikon D700 when my daughter was born which was a great camera but a bit of a lump to haul around on days out with a fast lens on. As I often carried my daughter (she hated pushchairs) I ended up taking a compact camera out most of the time as the photographs I took were snaps for Facebook, family album etc and for the most part were indistinguishable from those taken with the D700.

But I kept the Nikon and used it for my other photography that was more demanding in its requirements for cameras, or for snaps at home when I didn’t have to carry the camera far. As she got older and more mobile I started taking the D700 out again on a sling strap which is far more comfortable than a neck strap.

In fairness, ten years ago the mirrorless cameras available weren’t of the calibre they are today so I never even considered changing systems. If you just want to own one camera, then a system swap may not be a bad idea.
 
For baby, children and general people shots I see mirrorless as having a massive advantage as the face/eye detect frees you up to concentrate on composition and capturing the moment in a way that a DSLR just can't unless in live view mode. Being able to compose with your subjects face/eye away from where DSLR's usually have their focus points, clustered around the centre of the frame, is IMO just so liberating. Indeed you can not only lock onto your subjects face/eye but track it too.

For people who haven't tried this it really can be a bit of a revelation.

Looking at my own baby and people shots taken with a DSLR it's clear they were composed and taken / cropped with the limitations of DSLR focusing.
 
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For baby, children and general people shots I see mirrorless as having a massive advantage as the face/eye detect frees you up to concentrate on composition and capturing the moment in a way that a DSLR just can't unless in live view mode. Being able to compose with your subjects face/eye away from where DSLR's usually have their focus points, clustered around the centre of the frame, is IMO just so liberating. Indeed you can not only lock onto your subjects face/eye but track it too.

For people who haven't tried this it really can be a bit of a revelation.

Looking at my own baby and people shots taken with a DSLR it's clear they were composed and taken / cropped with the limitations of DSLR focusing.

^^^This. Game-changer is an over used term, but if you like the shallow DoF portrait look (and who doesn't) particularly with unpredictable and/or off-centre subjects, that's what Eye-AF is o_O
 
For baby, children and general people shots I see mirrorless as having a massive advantage as the face/eye detect frees you up to concentrate on composition and capturing the moment in a way that a DSLR just can't unless in live view mode. Being able to compose with your subjects face/eye away from where DSLR's usually have their focus points, clustered around the centre of the frame, is IMO just so liberating. Indeed you can not only lock onto your subjects face/eye but track it too.

For people who haven't tried this it really can be a bit of a revelation.

Looking at my own baby and people shots taken with a DSLR it's clear they were composed and taken / cropped with the limitations of DSLR focusing.
This is what still draws me to mirrorless. Actually I have a Sony Rx100 with all the bells and whistles af and full screen focus points and eye af so I’m not unaware of its benefits. Indeed one of my fave lenses the Nikon 58 1.4 does really benefit from being used on a Z6 or even a D780 (live view) and I am being drawn to both of those models just to get the most out of what has to be my favourite lens!
 
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