A few from a recent wedding

holty said:
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Why all the hate? Seriously man! Have I done something to upset you? I don't believe I've come across you on here before, so I don't get the way you attacked my photos and blog? You might not like the photos - fair enough - but I don't think they are so bad that they should have attracted such extreme negativity, unless it is in some way personal?
 
mjScall said:
totally shocked at someone posting on the blog though, a completely stupid and spiteful thing to do considering that it's obvious purpose is for those who know the married couple not keyboard warrior a**eholes
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:agree: I don't see theres any need. Its not really the place to say anything other then 'Nice Photos" and be a little surpportive
 
andyturner said:
Why all the hate? Seriously man! Have I done something to upset you? I don't believe I've come across you on here before, so I don't get the way you attacked my photos and blog? You might not like the photos - fair enough - but I don't think they are so bad that they should have attracted such extreme negativity, unless it is in some way personal?
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Wouldn't sweat it mate.

I get the feeling that this guys crit is about as valid as a homeless guy having a dig at my choice of curtains.
 
Andy I wouldn't worry yourself too much.

You've removed the post, which is the absolute right thing to do and I'd pretty much disregard everything he said anyway. Others have taken the time to constructively critique your shots and offered good advice on contrast and focus. As a set, I'd be over the moon and they are entirely consistent with the rest of the stuff on your website - so the couple bought into your work when they booked you.

@holty "your shots would score mostly 15 that means granny took the pic with her pocket camera" Is there really any need? (n)
 
Holty. Screw the nut. There's a way to critique and that's not it.
 
danny_bhoy said:
Don't want to derail Andy's thread.....although that ship has probably sailed.

Put yourself in his shoes. The purpose of a blog is soley to showcase your work and keep people up to date with what you're doing (to show you're busy and active). With a wedding blog they're mainly used for friends and family of the B&G to view their wedding and congratulate the couple, and also for prospective clients to view your work. They're not there for the purposes of critique.......to be honest, I thought that would/should be pretty obvious. Maybe I was mistaken.
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then why give people the ability to add comments?
 
KIPAX said:
then why give people the ability to add comments?
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So that people related to the couple can comment and say nice things to/about each other

in what world is it appropriate to criticise the photography at a strangers wedding on the blog page dedicated to them?

the bride will be looking through her photos only to see some plank from a photography forum whinging about focus/contrast and all kinds of things that she didn't even notice

Comments on here are 100% fine as that is the purpose of this site, but if you can't see why it's wrong to post on someone else's wedding blog (especially in such a negative manner) then there really is no hope for you
 
KIPAX said:
then why give people the ability to add comments?
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Tony, how would you like it if I went over to your Facebook page and told you your images looked like they were taken by a twelve year old with an iPhone and that you might want to consider practicing before you charged for them?

Would you think that was OK...Given that I can post on your business page?
 
UaeExile said:
Tony, how would you like it if I went over to your Facebook page and told you your images looked like they were taken by a twelve year old with an iPhone and that you might want to consider practicing before you charged for them?

Would you think that was OK...Given that I can post on your business page?
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Have i posted some wedding/any? pics on here asked for critique and pointed everyone to the online pics asking for comments... then offered an interactive blog for comments. no because I wouldnt :) therefore your question is slightly loaded to one side

Had I don the above then I would kick myself for inviting such comemnts and leaving mself wide open.. I would not resort to cheap childish insults to the very person i asked to comment...
 
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danny_bhoy said:
For the reasons given in my post. If I could use the 'banging head off brick wall' emoji on my phone it would be getting an outing about now.
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so YOU made the blog? My point is.. You should always be wary of anyhting interactive on a website.. I wouldnt have anyhting on mine that couldnt be checked before it went live.. anyone can go on there..post porn nastyiness anyhting they want.. its a nightmare i woudlnt want... thats my point... and If I could use the 'banging head off brick wall' emoji on my phone it would be getting an outing about now
 
Poster puts pic on here asking for comments and points to more pics off here which has a faclity to comment

someone posts critique poster doesnt like

poster then makes childish insults at one of the people he asked to comment.

I would say dont leave yourself so open and invite possible comments your not going to like...

gerrit ?:)
 
KIPAX said:
Have i posted some wedding/any? pics on here asked for critique and pointed everyone to the online pics asking for comments... then offered an interactive blog for comments. no because I wouldnt :) therefore your question is slightly loaded to one side

Had I don the above then I would kick myself for inviting such comemnts and leaving mself wide open.. I would not resort to cheap childish insults to the very person i asked to comment...
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I must have missed the part where he asked for critique....

This is for you @danny_bhoy :banghead:
 
KIPAX said:
then why give people the ability to add comments?
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I didn't "give people the ability" to add comments as such, the facility was already there and I didn't bother disabling it because I didn't think anyone would be malicious enough to add such a negative, non-constructive comment to it.

KIPAX said:
I would not resort to cheap childish insults to the very person i asked to comment...
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The very person I asked to comment? I didn't ask anyone to comment actually. And yes, in hindsight maybe commenting on his grammar was a bit childish and I shouldn't have done it, but it was done as a knee jerk reaction to prove a point - I didn't ask for criticism of my photos, he didn't ask for criticism of his grammar.

Like you said, two wrongs don't make a right, but ask yourself is it right to wade in to a thread when it starts getting a bit tetchy to fan the flames, which to be fair seems to be a favourite pastime of yours.
 
KIPAX said:
Poster puts pic on here asking for comments and points to more pics off here which has a faclity to comment

someone posts critique poster doesnt like

poster then makes childish insults at one of the people he asked to comment.

I would say dont leave yourself so open and invite possible comments your not going to like...

gerrit ?:)
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If I put it in capital letters will it get through?

I DID NOT ASK FOR ANY COMMENTS.

Gerrit?
 
UaeExile said:
I must have missed the part where he asked for critique....

This is for you @danny_bhoy :banghead:
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Much obliged!

On that note I'm out.

@KIPAX I don't often say this to anyone, about anything. But you're wrong. I believe you know you're wrong as well and you're being deliberately argumentative and obtuse.

It's widely accepted in polite society that these sort of blogs are not an open invitation to post, in this case absolutely worthless, critique in a pro's work. As has been said, if someone posted crit on your facebook page you'd be the first to spit your dummy out and throw a wailing paddy.
 
holty said:
had a look at the storyboard more bad pics
i think you need a lot more practice if your earning money from the shots i viewed it may sound harsh
just look at pic no1 her hair is blown into the background if you look at the other togs on here who do weedings they blow you away for the wow factor
if you where at a camera club your shots would score mostly 15 that means granny took the pic with her
pocket camera
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None of that is critique its just downright pathetic and if someone posted that on my website they would be running for the hills by now.

Granted some of the photos are a little dark for my tastes too and there are some photos which some may call 'blown out' yet this is a technique other photographers use to accentuate a photo by purposely over exposing, so the rather 90s camera club approach of sitting round looking in detail at histograms and giving out points on each others photos based on your own technical wishes is not really imo valid any more.

p.s My gran takes great photos I find that comment rather offensive ;)
 
andyturner said:
I didn't "give people the ability" to add comments as such, the facility was already there and I didn't bother disabling it because I didn't think anyone would be malicious enough to add such a negative, non-constructive comment to it.



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If it's any help I have mine set to moderate comments before they go public
 
Just in case anyone reading this thread thinks I'm booting off for no reason, this was the comment that holty kindly put on my blog;

"looks like you need a lot more practice before i would say your pic are of profesional standard"

Under the username "Big Man". Lol.
 
andyturner said:
Just in case anyone reading this thread thinks I'm booting off for no reason, this was the comment that holty kindly put on my blog;

"looks like you need a lot more practice before i would say your pic are of profesional standard"

Under the username "Big Man". Lol.
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Unbelievable.

I can only assume he's drunk.
 
Oy vey! I'm guessing there's no point me taking the time to offer any critique then ...
 
Andy I like the gallery. The black and whites might be a little too dark for my taste but that's coming from a guy with washed out blacks haha

Some real nice moments in there! Out of focus dancing shot mentioned earlier I personally would leave in. It's a great moment regardless of the focus and okay in focus would have been good..obviously but the moment is there still and that's important also!

I love the quote, "depth of feeling, not depth of field". Guess that can apply to focus also! The feeling is there for me :)
 
I reckon this is the best I've seen of yours, despite my considerable reservations about some of the processing. 2nd and 3rd above are really nice, and on the blog post, the one of her having her necklace done up is very well caught, and the last one of the posed couple shots is lovely.

If there's one single thing I reckon could make a big difference to the dynamic of your coverage, it's if you try and vary the height from which you're shooting a bit more often. You just seem to me to be a bit too fond of your natural eye-level viewpoint. I know all too well how easy it is to forget about that when you're concentrating on the action, but if you can try and work on varying it a bit, it'll be worth the effort.
 
On the subject of comments on your blog, I stopped allowing any comments at all because all I was getting were comments about sunglasses and the like. Just people using my blog to advertise their tat!! I used to moderate all comments before they went live but I couldn't be bothered with wading through all the spam!
 
Serendipitous Sid said:
I reckon this is the best I've seen of yours, despite my considerable reservations about some of the processing. 2nd and 3rd above are really nice, and on the blog post, the one of her having her necklace done up is very well caught, and the last one of the posed couple shots is lovely.

If there's one single thing I reckon could make a big difference to the dynamic of your coverage, it's if you try and vary the height from which you're shooting a bit more often. You just seem to me to be a bit too fond of your natural eye-level viewpoint. I know all too well how easy it is to forget about that when you're concentrating on the action, but if you can try and work on varying it a bit, it'll be worth the effort.
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Great thanks Dan :)

Yeah it's something that hasn't really occurred to me tbh. At 6' 5" I guess I have a higher viewpoint than most, and dodgy knees deter me from too much crouching, but it's certainly something I'll bear in mind at my next wedding.

Processing is definitely still a work in progress for me, I feel I'm getting there but not where I want to be with it. Tbh I don't normally add this much contrast, especially with mono conversions. The ceremony at this wedding was a particularly tough one due to the contrasting bright sunlight and dark room, so exposing for the dress led to some really dark areas, and lifting shadows in post brought in a fair amount of noise. Plus I had to clone in the groom's mother who was totally blown out in many of the shots from a shot where she wasn't so badly over exposed, and keeping the shadows darker made this a bit less obvious.

I'm hoping next time I shoot there it will be a bit more overcast! I have 5 weddings there this year though so by the end of the year I should have nailed it!
 
ryanyboy said:
Bridemaids walking up aisle.
Groom putting her ring on (looks like focus is on Best Man)
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I've just checked these and when viewing the full res ones they seem ok to me, when viewing on my phone it's hard to tell, especially with the bridesmaids one. Zoomed in on full res and they are pretty sharp. Maybe not slit your throat sharp but certainly not soft enough to be binned.

Maybe my eyes are just back focusing! ;)
 
I can't believe some of the nonsense that goes on at times!

Anyway, not a bad set at all Andy. I think there's a real fine line with creating your own look that's in line with the current in vogue high contrast 'look' and creating something that's a little dark and gritty. My take is that a wedding is a nice and bright affair with great colours so I don't always subscribe to the muddy, subdued processing that many are into right now. The black and whites ceremony shots for me, are far too contrasty. In contrast, I like the speech shots because they look nice and bright. The harsh light in the ceremony being beamed through looked a nightmare for anyone, tricky to get the best out of such a bad deal there when you can't change it.

I really like the posed shots together, look nice and natural plus the one of her shoes posted here, that's a great moment captured.
 
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andyturner said:
At 6' 5" I guess I have a higher viewpoint than most, and dodgy knees deter me from too much crouching ...
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I can identify with that! 6ft 2in, osteoarthritis in one knee and a torn cartilage in t'other for out last 4-5 years ...
 
Aye, think these are nice shots, these fall down mainly in the separation of dark and black and white and highlights, mainly in the first and last images :) in essence what most others have been saying, the contrast whilst bold is a little too flat for my liking :)
 
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