Identification please on 2 Warblers .

[Rubber Soul]

I have trouble identifying some of the Warbler group of birds.
Not the best quality of images.

 

[Rubber Soul]

Sorry double image of one of the birds.

 

[gramps]

1st is a Whitethroat I believe, 2nd is a little more difficult but my best guess would be a Sedge warbler.

 

[kentbirder]

I agree the first one looks like a juvenile Whitethroat, but the last one looks more like a Reed Warbler.

 

[Kodiak Qc]

Sorry double image of one of the birds.

Edit by deleting the unwanted image, Gary!

 

[jerry12953]

Very difficult! Can you give us any more clues? Location, habitat?

Gramps, I don't think that is a sedge warbler, which always has a broad white supercilium.

 

[michael23]

maybe a juvenile reed warbler on the 2nd one?

 

[gramps]

Gramps, I don't think that is a sedge warbler, which always has a broad white supercilium.

It's difficult, the feathers are drawn close to its body as it's obviously 'spooked' ... I still think Sedge but could well be a Reed Warbler

 

[Rubber Soul]

Very difficult! Can you give us any more clues? Location, habitat?

Gramps, I don't think that is a sedge warbler, which always has a broad white supercilium.

Where I took 2nd image was on thin tract land of shrubs and bushes with some Rowan trees running parallel with a river.
Thanks to all for replying.