@rookies just buy a Sony A7R IV too, and both the 100-400mm GM.
Feed your GAS, its been bubbling for quite a while now lol
Responses to all the hype questions.
Responses to all the hype questions.
Who said change, just keep the A9 and buy the A7R IV too..... best of both worlds and you'll get that GAS hit your much in need of.Nope I am not changing body for sake of it. So lens is what I am going to get
Im mainly asking as I'm interested in where Sony can and will go. the r4 didn't seem to get as much praise as the r3 or 7iii, the s3 seems to be a pipe dream and going by the fast turn around of the a9 its not all its cracked up be either.
A quick question for those with lenses with aperture rings.
Do you find them useful?
I'm used to aperture rings but I'm not too sure I'll routinely use one on an AF lens when the aperture can be controlled with the dial on the camera which my thumb will be near. I can see a use for the on lens aperture ring when using the lens for zone and hyperfocal but for more normal use I'll probably use the dial on the A7.
I may be wrong, I'll soon see how I feel.
Any thoughts from you lot with aperture rings on AF lenses?
I could be wrong but haven't the people on this thread that are trying to or have sold there A9's selling them because they need to free up some cash?
That was my impression anyway, I don't remember posts from anyone saying that they weren't anything other than extremely happy with performance.
Yeah thats does mainly seem to be there reason, but unless selling everything I'm sure it actual frees very little and you take a substantial hit doing so, maybe as much as you would recoup when buying another camera to replace it, which they seem to all do or plan to do.
it was just something I had noticed so thought to ask. on my time here I've never seen such chopping and changing on what would be classed as a pro body before, the only time you see the Nikon D or canon 1D body being sold is when a new model is released and and they upgrade, even then there is never that many.
think you need to pull the stick from ur arse, you seem to be taking stuff to personally.
It was a genuine question I was asking not trying to upset you or anyone else and should have know you would have taken issue with it.
yes more a7iii's have sold but a lot more were bought, the reason for the question was out of the 4/5 people that all bought an a9 in a short space of time on this one thread, after the 1 sold only months/half a year later, they all have been appearing on the sales section or the owners are considering selling them.
So was this due to them not being as good as was made out or from people just jumping on the band wagon wanting the best thing that a few were praising so highly.
IF it is as good as everyone says then why are they all being sold so quickly?
I bought into the Sony camp and a7iii as it was a leap in performance from Nikon, from my d750 and the z6. after 10 plus years with Nikon I was sick off all the issues/recalls that I had myself experienced and rubbish support and repairs. and as a hobbyist I wanted something smaller and lighter for when traveling and out with my family.
Had Nikon or canon produced better mirrorless body I may have gone there.
with regards to my phrase about sheep, that wasn't just into the fact of the buy but the selling too.. so 4/5 people all buying an a9 and selling said camera all within 6 months doesn't raise questions into its performance or whether they were just following the hype.
Im mainly asking as I'm interested in where Sony can and will go. the r4 didn't seem to get as much praise as the r3 or 7iii, the s3 seems to be a pipe dream and going by the fast turn around of the a9 its not all its cracked up be either.
Here you go, screenshot of the original unedited raw file straight from the computer before importing to LR, and then the final image (with some added background blur). It's nearly 1:1 yet there's still good feather detail, well if you view on Flickr or my original anywayI'm interested in the cropping ability of the A7r's.
I did think that when my A7 dies I'd just get the latest in the A7 line but cropping has got me interested so I could be interested in an r series body and the 100-400 + tc would I assume keep the bulk down over a longer lens?
I often crop up to 100% to fill the screen with something I spot while out and an r would doubtless enable me to crop less or end up with a bigger picture so if and when anyone gets the chance could they please post examples of full pictures and crops?
This isn't urgent as I wont be buying a new camera any time too soon
Here you go, screenshot of the original unedited raw file straight from the computer before importing to LR, and then the final image (with some added background blur). It's nearly 1:1 yet there's still good feather detail, well if you view on Flickr or my original anyway
Screenshot 2020-04-06 at 12.52.08 by TDG-77, on Flickr
A7R02337-Edit by TDG-77, on Flickr
Pretty sure that those that did sell or those that are trying too, did sell everything else including lenses etc. and then buy cheaper alternatives.
You are making out like hundreds of A9's have went up for sale, when there has been what 3 or 4 over the last couple of months?
For those people in the current situation we all find ourselves in downgrading and maybe putting a £1000 in your pocket probably makes a lot of sense, especially when use of the equipment will also be very limited because of the current situation.
I considered selling everything up myself as all my weddings for the next few months have been cancelled, just for cash flow reasons as I have lost over 25k of income over the next few months. Equipment can always be bought again. I could have for example sold everything up bar the bare essentials then bought again once everything returns to normal. However I managed to get another gig to tide me over for a few months so don't need to at the moment.
As for Nikon and Canon pro bodies you can't get rid of those for love or money even before the current crisis because demand for them is so low. A mate of mine has been trying to sell his D5 and D4S for several months. So I would have though most people won't bother as for all they are worth now and with the current climate it makes more sense to hold on to them and upgrade later on down the line.
Not at all, you repeatedly said that buyers of the a9 did so because of hype or because they are sheep without considering that people just buy/sell gear and its nothing new. Some think it's odd to switch fairly frequently but doing so actually means lower losses. Buying at launch and keeping till the cameras a few years old means massive hits, just ask Riz.
I also used Nikon for a long time and got a little tired of the same issues.
The a9 is a superb camera, probably more than most will ever need. I think Riz moved for a simpler setup, I had various reasons but it definitely wasn't the performance of the camera, especially at the price point (little over 2k), considering the A7iii cost me 1700+ and I owned it around 2 years. I think JJ has had a couple.
I think the mk3 and a9 were revolutionary, the mk4 and a9ii are incremental so even though they are great cameras they just won't get the same attention.
Not at all, you repeatedly said that buyers of the a9 did so because of hype or because they are sheep without considering that people just buy/sell gear and its nothing new. Some think it's odd to switch fairly frequently but doing so actually means lower losses. Buying at launch and keeping till the cameras a few years old means massive hits, just ask Riz.
I also used Nikon for a long time and got a little tired of the same issues.
The a9 is a superb camera, probably more than most will ever need. I think Riz moved for a simpler setup, I had various reasons but it definitely wasn't the performance of the camera, especially at the price point (little over 2k), considering the A7iii cost me 1700+ and I owned it around 2 years. I think JJ has had a couple.
I think the mk3 and a9 were revolutionary, the mk4 and a9ii are incremental so even though they are great cameras they just won't get the same attention.
Yeah thats does mainly seem to be there reason, but unless selling everything I'm sure it actual frees very little and you take a substantial hit doing so, maybe as much as you would recoup when buying another camera to replace it, which they seem to all do or plan to do.
it was just something I had noticed so thought to ask. on my time here I've never seen such chopping and changing on what would be classed as a pro body before, the only time you see the Nikon D or canon 1D body being sold is when a new model is released and and they upgrade, even then there is never that many.
The Sony A9 will give you even better AF, AF Tracking, Eye-AF and Animal Eye-AF, 20fps totally silent black-out free shooting with 60 AE/AF calculations per second. Deeper buffer and better EVF, it has other good features too.thanks
thats all I wanted to know was if it a performance thing/ people realising that they were not needing the performance or something else.
there just seemed so many bought and sold quickly unlike what I've seen before and wondered why.
I've never bought and sold and not taken a big hit, but do generally keep boys for a 2/3 years at least., I guess with whats happening now and the prices rising it may be one of the best times if you can find a buyer.
I know for me I don't know what an a9 would offer, I've not shot loads on my a7iii but have never had an issue with AF and I'm still shocked at how many are perfectly in focus.
A quick question for those with lenses with aperture rings.
Do you find them useful?
I'm used to aperture rings but I'm not too sure I'll routinely use one on an AF lens when the aperture can be controlled with the dial on the camera which my thumb will be near. I can see a use for the on lens aperture ring when using the lens for zone and hyperfocal but for more normal use I'll probably use the dial on the A7.
I may be wrong, I'll soon see how I feel.
Any thoughts from you lot with aperture rings on AF lenses?
Genuine question and not trying to stir or start any bitching.
Has the A9 turned out to be not as good as was made out ?
was is just everyone listening to one persons praise made them all go and buy one?
Everyone just being a sheep and doing as others did?
Seems after one person bought one and made out it was the god of all cameras and everyone should get one quite a few jumped on the bandwagon and bought one, now as soon as one was sold it seems as everyone that bought one has now decided to sell?
Yes I know that the excuse that it’s a crisis and cash is needed has been used but most that bought it were hobbyists not shooting professionally full time.
So has this been a case of it’s not all it’s lived upto be and was mainly hype from a few causing the buying ?
Are most selling if ready to move to canon? Is this again just following others or hype?
Generally interested to know, I know most will have lost money doing so, so wanted to know the reasons, is this a sign of what’s to come for Sony?
I’m more than happy with my a73 and seems as though most that bought into the system are, but the a9 doesn’t seem to have faired so well.
A quick question for those with lenses with aperture rings.
Do you find them useful?
I'm used to aperture rings but I'm not too sure I'll routinely use one on an AF lens when the aperture can be controlled with the dial on the camera which my thumb will be near. I can see a use for the on lens aperture ring when using the lens for zone and hyperfocal but for more normal use I'll probably use the dial on the A7.
I may be wrong, I'll soon see how I feel.
Any thoughts from you lot with aperture rings on AF lenses?
I can see why you could but it would required specific needs. From my use a 200-600 could be useful as I mainly do wildlife with a little landscape. I like a lightweight setup but it can dictate what wildlife subjects I do. I do miss out on birds because 400mm isnt really as long. The 200-600 would be great for birds. Like you say the 1.4TC could potentially add additional focal length but I’d personally like to see the pitfalls of a TC at f8 on the 100-400. The sole reason that holds me back from trying is that the use of teleconverters on Sony is pretty limiting and therefore harder to sell on if needed. I also can’t sell the 100-400 for a 200-600 because I’d need something between the 24-105 and 200-600 for landscapes. The 70-200 f4 would fit nicely but the 100-400 would probably be better for me and probably get more use for wildlife and landscapes, therefore a 24-105, 100-400 and 200-600 would be a nice to have set up but the 24-105 and 100-400 is perfect for my current needs so no need to buy/swap anything at the moment.Why would you want a 100-400 and 200-600 that seems silly, youd just get a 100-400 and 1.4x tc or 200-600.
As a user of manual focus lenses from the 70's and 80's on my A7Rii I like them.
I'd be buggered without them.
As a user of manual focus lenses from the 70's and 80's on my A7Rii I like them.
I'd be buggered without them.
I think it's a case of familiarity tbh, those used to using a control dial will prefer that, those used to using an aperture ring on the lens will prefer that. I liked the manual controls of SLRs that moved with a solid click and needed a bit of force to move them, but with the aperture rings on the modern lenses I've tried they're just too easy to move.I suppose but when it's an AF lens and your finger is right on the dial on the camera that adjusts it your left hand can stay on the focus ring or just supporting the lens rather than reaching for the aperture control.
I'll see how I get on with it.