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Golly. Dunno about 10K but I'm sure they wont be £600-800
It's interesting that all the chat here is about the Canon whereas on another site it's all about the Nikon.
One thing that does surprise me a little is that these new bodies arguably / probably lag behind the A7III in a few areas that could matter but are more expensive and people are interested. It's as if Sony are still seen as an upstart electronics company who really should be putting their resources into large screen TV's, that's a comment I read somewhere, also read lots of comments to the effect of "Not interested in Sony" and "Would never consider Sony." Fanboys all?
Watched the F1 Grand Prix from Texas on Sunday - considering the market share Sony are reporting and everyone on here stating how good they are not one of the Pro Togs was using any Sony gear whatsoever, all were mainly Canon and some Nikon bodies but definitely no mirrorless or Sony. Looks like the camera isn't as 'revered' as some on here might like to think for the pro sports photographer?
Why hasn't there been this 'mass move' if the camera is 'so good'?
Keep on trolling
Watched the F1 Grand Prix from Texas on Sunday - considering the market share Sony are reporting and everyone on here stating how good they are not one of the Pro Togs was using any Sony gear whatsoever, all were mainly Canon and some Nikon bodies but definitely no mirrorless or Sony. Looks like the camera isn't as 'revered' as some on here might like to think for the pro sports photographer?
Why hasn't there been this 'mass move' if the camera is 'so good'?
Is it just not the case of while you can salivate all day long about the spec sheets in the real world the DSLR is still better at this present time for this type of photography?
a lot of working photographers are less obsessive about gear and understand that spending a truck load of money switching systems won't really make too much difference to their end result. nikon and canon have more options lens wise for sports and testament to that is the gear you can see being used up and down the country at sporting events. people shooting with 300mm f2.8 etc won't want to switch if that lens isn't available yet.
give it a few years and the picture will look differently im sure.
a lot of working photographers are less obsessive about gear and understand that spending a truck load of money switching systems won't really make too much difference to their end result. nikon and canon have more options lens wise for sports and testament to that is the gear you can see being used up and down the country at sporting events. people shooting with 300mm f2.8 etc won't want to switch if that lens isn't available yet.
give it a few years and the picture will look differently im sure.
Cheers for that Jonathan. I shoot a lot of motorsports and from what you are saying it's the lens selection that is holding back the camera? I have no doubt that mirrorless is the future but at the moment the switch probably isn't worthwhile?
Go on then - see how many mirrorless cameras you can pick out of the first picture here:
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-...n-history-wins-world-title-Mexican-Grand-Prix
It would certainly appear the pro's still prefer DSLR and mirrorless isn't quite there yet?
Less talking, more pictures.
makes me wish i spent more time in Tokyo taking street photos and less time intoxicated.
Very nice. Was this some photo shoot you setup and done?few more with the 55mm
8-1 by Jonathan Howes, on Flickr
9-1 by Jonathan Howes, on Flickr
10-1 by Jonathan Howes, on Flickr
Very nice. Was this some photo shoot you setup and done?
O nice. When's the next one?Cheers.
No, was a Sony & wex sponsored event. About 10 or so models and MUA’s and approx 200 togs. Good fun. Quite a young crowd. 90% shooting mirrorless I’d say.
O nice. When's the next one?
Go on then - see how many mirrorless cameras you can pick out of the first picture here:
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-...n-history-wins-world-title-Mexican-Grand-Prix
It would certainly appear the pro's still prefer DSLR and mirrorless isn't quite there yet?
Watched the F1 Grand Prix from Texas on Sunday - considering the market share Sony are reporting and everyone on here stating how good they are not one of the Pro Togs was using any Sony gear whatsoever, all were mainly Canon and some Nikon bodies but definitely no mirrorless or Sony. Looks like the camera isn't as 'revered' as some on here might like to think for the pro sports photographer?
Why hasn't there been this 'mass move' if the camera is 'so good'?
Is it just not the case of while you can salivate all day long about the spec sheets in the real world the DSLR is still better at this present time for this type of photography?
what do they knowGolly. Dunno about 10K but I'm sure they wont be £600-800
It's interesting that all the chat here is about the Canon whereas on another site it's all about the Nikon.
One thing that does surprise me a little is that these new bodies arguably / probably lag behind the A7III in a few areas that could matter but are more expensive and people are interested. It's as if Sony are still seen as an upstart electronics company who really should be putting their resources into large screen TV's, that's a comment I read somewhere, also read lots of comments to the effect of "Not interested in Sony" and "Would never consider Sony." Fanboys all?
Jonney you do have a tendency to bring the tone down a bit in this thread,must be your agegotta keep up pace with all the banging pics posted here
iaaf-2017-pt1-199.jpg by Jon Richy, on Flickr
do you have to.few more with the 55mm
8-1 by Jonathan Howes, on Flickr
9-1 by Jonathan Howes, on Flickr
10-1 by Jonathan Howes, on Flickr
The A7 is no speed demon but more than good enough for static people and scenic shots and it'll just about cope with someone at walking speed. That's been my experience anyway. The face detect works quite well, IMO, but I'm not used to the latest kit so the fact that it works at all seems like Voodoo to me. I don't know anything about the D500 but I know a little about MFT as I've had it since the early days. I'd say that an A7 and any of the AF lenses I have (28-70mm, 35mm f2.8, 55mm f1.8 and 85mm f1.8) is possibly not all that bad comparted to the 20mm f1.7 for speed as that lens isn't the quickest. IQ wise an A7 is ahead of the latest MFT 16 and 20mp sensors if you go looking for the differences.
I find all ISO's up to and including the max to be useable with care and basic processing and I've posted lots of high ISO shots here but good luck finding them If you're really interested I could (somehow) send you some raws to play with or I'm sure you could Google your way to some raws to download.
One thing to think about with the early cameras is sensor reflections with some lenses in some situations but I can't say it's ever bothered me. Other than that I think that an A7 and a compact lens or two could be well worth a serious look if you don't need a speed demon.
PS.
Lens wise you could look at the Samyang 35mm f2.8 and the 28-70mm kit lens.
If you don't need blistering AF then the A7 is a cheap way into Sony - It might not stay cheap though if you want the biggest & the best!
If you were lucky you could pick up an A7, 28-70mm & Samyang 35/2.8 plus a few old manual primes/adapters for well under a grand. If you want lightweight shooting with more than adequate IQ you can't go much wrong.
It might be a foot in for next year, I'll see. As you say, the problem is I'll want to upgrade soon after knowing me
How sharp are people finding the Sony 35mm 2.8?
How sharp are people finding the Sony 35mm 2.8?
Wtf, didn't you sell one or two?
I sold one yes. I was asking how sharp people found theirs?
I dont consider myself a pro along the lines of F1 but i have covered British Superbikes and worked for MSVR and Pirelli for the last eight years and am still on the fence about changing over fully to mirrorless although i know a few that have started. Having invested over the years in Canon as that really was all that was about its a big kick in the nuts to change over to Sony and loose so much money in all honesty on my gear as in the 500mm f4 MKII,400mm f2.8 MKII and 300mm f2.8 MKII regardless how good the A9 is and also as the only prime released so far is the 400mm f2.8.
Many of the togs trackside are from Getty and they get such a discount and service off Canon that you wont see Sony get a look in still for a long time yet regardless how good the cameras and lenses are.
Most the motorsport togs that i know that dont work for agencies still use older gear to be honest and will continue to do this until it falls apart as they just dont earn or have the money for the latest tech as much as they would love to and infact could probably take better pictures with a point and shoot than 95% of people with the latest and greatest kit be it Sony,Canon or Nikon.
Still as far as any mirrorless goes Sony are way in front of anything anyone else can offer at this time,love the features on my A7III and look forward to adding an A9 once funds allow and im sure i will be a convert in the future.
100mm is tempting. Wondering if they have a 200mm one?Just in case anyone is interested LCE have the following Canon FD lenses...
28mm f2.8 - £49.99.
35mm f2.8 - £59.99.
50mm f1.8 breech lock - £39.99.
50mm f3.5 macro - £79.99.
100mm f2.8 - £89.99.
They also have a 85mm f1.2 - £599.
That last one doesn't interest me but the others all look nice especially that 35mm f2.8 but I have one already.
I have a Novoflex adapter for my FD's and they all work nicely and in fact I was using a 24mm Miranda in FD and a 50mm f1.4 this morning. I wont say they're up to modern lens standards but they're nice lenses.