Sony might be releasing a new FE body next month Sony A9? Mmmm or maybe the Sony A7III?
I suspect the FE 16-35mm f2.8 G Master will be announced too.
Sony might be releasing a new FE body next month Sony A9? Mmmm or maybe the Sony A7III?
I suspect the FE 16-35mm f2.8 G Master will be announced too.
It does make me laugh how Sony seem to have been able to carve out a segment of photographers that are willing to accept a £600 lens as the 'budget' option. I shot Canon originally before moving to Sony and a lot of my wedding work was shot with the Canon 85mm 1.8 which is below £300 new. I realise that the standard justification of Canon having been around longer means the development costs are well accounted for etc, along with Sony employing unicorn tears in their manufacturing process but twice the price, really?
...If I had an A7 body I'd be interested in an 85mm for portraits/events but at that price it must be hard to justify for hobby photographers?
Well many people who jump on ff have serious money anyway"As it’s not a G Master lens the Sony FE 85mm f/1.8 may seem something of a ‘second fiddle’ to the Sony FE 100mm F2.8 STF GM OSS announced at the same time, but at a round a third of the cost it’s likely to be a more common purchase."
It does make me laugh how Sony seem to have been able to carve out a segment of photographers that are willing to accept a £600 lens as the 'budget' option. I shot Canon originally before moving to Sony and a lot of my wedding work was shot with the Canon 85mm 1.8 which is below £300 new. I realise that the standard justification of Canon having been around longer means the development costs are well accounted for etc, along with Sony employing unicorn tears in their manufacturing process but twice the price, really?
Realistically, Sony played a good game by building up a market of eager buyers and releasing 3 models of bodies over 2 geenrations (so far) and a host of both ridiculously priced primes that all cover the same range or a mixed bag of zooms. By building up the demand for more affordable primes, they've made a £600 lens look like a complete bargain against the £1500 equivalent G Master when it's a relatively bread and butter focal length/aperture.
If I had an A7 body I'd be interested in an 85mm for portraits/events but at that price it must be hard to justify for hobby photographers?
That Canon lens is an 85mm f1.8 but it was never considered as anything other than a budget option was it? When I had Canon dslr's I didn't even consider that lens and went for the Sigma f1.4. Lets at least wait and see some more reviews before we write the Sony off as overpriced.
Well many people who jump on ff have serious money anyway
Well many people who jump on ff have serious money anyway
That was my point. The Canon lens is an excellent full frame performer but is half the price of Sony's supposed 'budget' offering. I've also used the Sigma 85/1.4 and it's an excellent lens but again, my point was a direct comparison to the Sony.
As you never actually tried the Canon 85mm it's hard to write it off but my point still stands. I'm not trying to rub anyone up the wrong the way or get them on the defensive, merely pointing out that £600 is a lot to spend on a lens that's described by the majority of the reviewers as "Sony's budget offering".
Also, if the 50mm 1.8 FE has a similar build quality and construction to the new 85mm 1.8 FE, why is it nearly a third of the price if it's not simply because the 85mm is seen as a more niche offering at the moment because of Sony's love for 50mm lenses? Just posing the question.
well its definitely a budget option when compared to the gm and batis. but i certainly appreciate that £500-£600 is still a lot of money.
i have no doubt it'll perform better than the canon 1.8 though, as having owned that briefly was was of the worst lens in terms of the CA rendering.
i thought this new 85 has a few more bells and whistles to it over the 50mm - like focus hold button and a more advanced focus system. i guess the proof will be in the pudding and there will soon be plenty of reviews and examples flooding youboob.
I have actually posted many times that modern lenses are really too good and too big and I'd welcome more compact lenses which are merely good enough... a sort of modern equivalent to my old Rokkors but with AF. But, we're not going to see that sort of lens from anyone but the no name Chinese guys.
I still can't make my mind up. I could get a 50mm macro and the 85mm and no one would complain but as I hardly have time to go out and take a worthwhile picture these days what's the point...
And no, I'm not really on the defensive but I do get a bit hacked off by the continued and repeated pages full of cost complaints and should have bought a Fuji/Nikon/anything else posts we've seen in this thread. It is rather off putting and has driven people away. The system is what it is...
Sony don't do budget
Just wanted to say that I shoot Sony in case you think I'm a Canon fanboy infiltrating the Sony thread with fake news.
Didn't you sell all of your Sony kit because it was worth way more than what you got out of it and you weren't keen on carrying around £5k of kit on a strap around your neck?
This is mildly interesting... a comparison of A7rII and A7 prints at 24 and 36"...
http://admiringlight.com/blog/sony-a7r-ii-vs-a7-ii-print-test/
He sez...
"In both sets of prints, upon close examination, the resolution of the A7R II was clearly visible. Everything seemed a bit sharper, with simply finer detail. However, with the 24″ print samples, the prints became indistinguishable to my eye when the viewing distance extended to around 18″. That’s it. Just 18″ away, and the extra detail in the print became essentially invisible. Since a 24″ print would need you to back up further than 18″ to see the whole print, at normal viewing distances the prints are indistinguishable...
The same is true for the 36″ print samples. Both prints looked fine, but the A7R II print was just a bit sharper and more detailed when viewed close up. The difference is there, but it’s not enormous, to be honest. The distance for these to equalize was a bit further, but they became essentially indistinguishable just beyond arms length, or around 30″ away. This, again, is around the normal viewing distance for a 36″ print if you’re fairly close...
The A7R II is shaping up to be a fantastic camera, but the extra resolution may or may not be of use to you for printing, unless you print very large or really like to get up close to large prints. Where the A7R II’s extra resolution really may come in handy is when cropping. A significant crop will still yield images with greater than 24 MP, and an APS-C crop will yield 18 MP images. This means that even heavily cropped images can be printed quite large and retain a very good look to the image, where the same crop on an A7 II may limit you to, say, a 12×18″ print before the print doesn’t look quite as good. In any case, I think that most shooters, especially those who don’t print larger than around 24 inches wide, should feel good knowing that in most circumstances, the difference in final output is fairly minimal at low ISO. For high ISO, well, that will take more investigation and more time with the camera. Look forward to my full A7R II review later this month."
I've pretty much given up printing. One thing which puts me off is that my Epson R2880 seems to need at least one new ink cartridge every time I go to use it. I dread to think what an A3 print out of it costs.
He does now lol jk AndrewI thought rookies hated the d750
You know what this thread is missing! Lack of images taken with these cameras!
That is quite true!You can't write that and not attach a photo of your own
Thank You.There we go - A lovely image Jamie
You know what this thread is missing! Lack of images taken with these cameras!
I killed two birds with one stone as they say today....
Took the old Escort out for the first time in two months & grabbed some photos of it at the same time That'll soon bore everyone
Lee I just washed and polished my 64 reg Fiesta Tit X Candy Blue, but I'm damned if I'm going to photograph it let alone share them as that would be boring however if it was an old Classic that would be very different. So keep sharing images of your babyI killed two birds with one stone as they say today....
Took the old Escort out for the first time in two months & grabbed some photos of it at the same time That'll soon bore everyone
Old escort photo will certain not bore me! The one you uploaded a while ago taken with your 85 I think it was. It was a fantastic photo and made me take the plunge in the A7!
Lee I just washed and polished my 64 reg Fiesta Tit X Candy Blue, but I'm damned if I'm going to photograph it let alone share them as that would be boring however if it was an old Classic that would be very different. So keep sharing images of your baby
You know what this thread is missing! Lack of images taken with these cameras!