Things to love or hate about cars...

jonbeeza said:
With Warranties on cars, not everything is always covered.
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Aye and what I'm noticing is that when they do cover it the warranty company will source and send the part to the garage to fit. This happened with my alternator, which is a Denso and typically fail at around an unacceptable 70k miles - probably due to all the electrics the car demands as Denso is a good make. The auto electrician at the garage called me up and told me the warranty company had sent the cheapest, nastiest piece of crap alternator he had ever seen. It would last a few months probably (based on comments from other people online who used 3rd pattern part alternators) so it went straight into the bin.

I bought a Denso one myself and fitted it with the help of a mechanic mate, but being Jaguar in all their design glory, you have to lift the engine to get it out and in. The book says it's a 1.6 hour job so that's all the insurance would pay, but it takes the Jaguar specialist 2.5 hours so the would be asking for the difference. It took us almost 4 hours to do it ourselves as we were taking it easy being first time with that car.

Two things I take with a huge pinch of salt now:

1. Main Dealer Service history
2. Third party warranties.
 
jonbeeza said:
Going to get some more adblue for the car later on, may as well. Just another thing to think about. Can't wait till they get a proper electric car system up and running, and have plenty of charging points, that do super fast charging.
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I am absolutely dreading the switch to electric cars. No soul. no character, no driver involvement. Just silence, push the right pedal to go and the left to stop (not even that with regenerative braking). If you could distill everything I wouldn't want a car to be down to its essence, it would be an electric car. Absolutely hate the thought of it.
 
RichardC27 said:
I am absolutely dreading the switch to electric cars. No soul. no character, no driver involvement. Just silence, push the right pedal to go and the left to stop (not even that with regenerative braking). If you could distill everything I wouldn't want a car to be down to its essence, it would be an electric car. Absolutely hate the thought of it.
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Me too...

I think when they do bring in electric vehicles, I bet you will have to be logged into a grid. Your every move will probably be monitored, and vehicles will probably be speed governed ( good thing, maybe. ) , and driving won't be enjoyable anymore. Not talking about the speed element, but rather the snooping possibility.
 
jonbeeza said:
Me too...

I think when they do bring in electric vehicles, I bet you will have to be logged into a grid. Your every move will probably be monitored, and vehicles will probably be speed governed ( good thing, maybe. ) , and driving won't be enjoyable anymore. Not talking about the speed element, but rather the snooping possibility.
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Absolutely. I know people have historically been against road pricing based on how far you drive, but we do have a form of that already in the massive amounts of tax paid on every litre of fuel. Once that has gone, there's a few billion quid missing from the government's tax receipts that are going to have to be replaced by some form of road pricing, which means GPS tracking, speed tracking and all the rest of it.

There's a whole other debate about how BEVs aren't actually that environmentally friendly, they just swap some environmental problems for different ones. They're not the answer to continued personal mobility but the regulatory environment is rather short-sightedly forcing us down that route. Just not for me and I will hang on to a manual transmission combustion engined car for as long as I possibly can
 
RichardC27 said:
I am absolutely dreading the switch to electric cars. No soul. no character, no driver involvement. Just silence, push the right pedal to go and the left to stop (not even that with regenerative braking). If you could distill everything I wouldn't want a car to be down to its essence, it would be an electric car. Absolutely hate the thought of it.
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jonbeeza said:
Me too...

I think when they do bring in electric vehicles, I bet you will have to be logged into a grid. Your every move will probably be monitored, and vehicles will probably be speed governed ( good thing, maybe. ) , and driving won't be enjoyable anymore. Not talking about the speed element, but rather the snooping possibility.
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Have either of you ever driven one for a while? Surprisingly nippy, even our low end Leaf. Easily keeps up with motorway speeds. Fun? As much as any driving on todays roads can be. Speed governed? Probably - but so is my 3 litre Diesel.
 
Nod said:
Have either of you ever driven one for a while? Surprisingly nippy, even our low end Leaf. Easily keeps up with motorway speeds. Fun? As much as any driving on todays roads can be. Speed governed? Probably - but so is my 3 litre Diesel.
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My in laws have had electric cars for years so yes I've spent plenty of time in them, spent a bit of time in various Teslas as well. Just not for me, I hate the silence and lack of a manual gearbox. Plus as said above I firmly believe they are the wrong technology to back and have absolutely zero interest in owning one. I know I'll be forced to one day, at least as a daily driver but I'll put that off as long as possible. I know they can have quite startling performance compared to an ICE car but it's just acceleration with no skill or involvement. None of this touches on the havoc this transition is going to wreak in the motorsport world which is another reason I really, really dread what the automotive landscape is going to look like in 10 years time. Time to find a new hobby / passion I think which isn't a nice thought to have.
 
Motorcycles!

I'm seriously considering changing one of my bikes (nice, noisy vertical twins) for an electric one. Can't hear much inside a lid anyway, especially with no hearing aids in (don't fit comfortably under the lid.) Most of my bike miles are relatively short trips so the limited range (ignoring mid-trip recharges - they're an expensive way to play the game!) won't be a problem. One of the Triumphs only has 100-120 miles in a tank anyway.
 
Nod said:
Have either of you ever driven one for a while? Surprisingly nippy, even our low end Leaf. Easily keeps up with motorway speeds. Fun? As much as any driving on todays roads can be. Speed governed? Probably - but so is my 3 litre Diesel.
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Not really about the speed governing thing, but more about being tied into apps, that will be implemented into electric smart cars.
I know an electric motor can be very fast, even acceleration can be way up there with the fastest sprinting cars, plus no need for all the gear messing about.
 
I don't have any apps for the Leaf, neither does Mrs Nod (it's her car). As a town car, it's hard to beat (we have off road parking and a home charging point) and even for local longer distances (30 mile radius), it's pretty much ideal, especially given the low cost per mile.
 
Nod said:
Have either of you ever driven one for a while? Surprisingly nippy, even our low end Leaf. Easily keeps up with motorway speeds. Fun? As much as any driving on todays roads can be. Speed governed? Probably - but so is my 3 litre Diesel.
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Haha I don't think you can class a 155mph limiter as speed governed!
 
Well, it is! Not sure where the Leaf tops out but I'd guess that it could go faster than that were there no limiter.
 
Annoying thing with our Ford tourne, it does NOT have a locking fuel / adblue flap. Anyone can access the adblue and diesel, as there is no locking filler caps either. I had cars over twenty years old, that had both locking flap, and locking caps. :mad:
 
Can you open the flap with the rest of the car locked?
 
jonbeeza said:
Annoying thing with our Ford tourne, it does NOT have a locking fuel / adblue flap. Anyone can access the adblue and diesel, as there is no locking filler caps either. I had cars over twenty years old, that had both locking flap, and locking caps. :mad:
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No need for locking fuel caps these days as there will be an anti-syphoning device in the filler pipe.
 
bass_junkie83 said:
Does that actually happen? Its all about keying the car of someone you don't like these days, even letting tyres down has gone out of fashion.
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Probably not, but was just my initial thought. I would have thought the outer cap would lock along with the car though.
 
That was my thought, hence my question a few posts above. I know that my car has a locking pin that locks the flap when the ignition is off or the doors are locked (can't remember which!)
 
My old SEAT had the cap that un/locked with the doors on the central locking.

The Ford's don't have anything that locks on the fuel AFAIK....
 
LeeRatters said:
My old SEAT had the cap that un/locked with the doors on the central locking.

The Ford's don't have anything that locks on the fuel AFAIK....
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Our old Ford Galaxy fuel flap locked, when the car was locked up, and opened when opening up the car. But our Ford Tourneo that is five years newer, does not.
 
I have a petrol Fiesta and the fuel filler is accesible all the time, however you cannot just pour something in the tank as it needs a nozzle inserted to open up a flap. If you poke your finger down the filler pipe you can feel it. It also stops diesel being put in by mistake.
The car was supplied with a filler funnel, stored next to the jack, to aid filling from a can in emergencies. It doesn't stop someone putting something in the top of the filler pipe but hopefully you should see it when you fill up.
No idea about the adblue though.
 
Suvv said:
I have a petrol Fiesta and the fuel filler is accesible all the time, however you cannot just pour something in the tank as it needs a nozzle inserted to open up a flap. If you poke your finger down the filler pipe you can feel it. It also stops diesel being put in by mistake.
The car was supplied with a filler funnel, stored next to the jack, to aid filling from a can in emergencies. It doesn't stop someone putting something in the top of the filler pipe but hopefully you should see it when you fill up.
No idea about the adblue though.
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Although I did put petrol in a Diesel Kia Ceed, I was not paying attention that time. :oops: :$
 
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