Two [Now three!] upcoming photography TV programmes

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Starting on Monday 24th May at 9pm on BBC4 is Great British Photography Challenge


And starting on the same day at 11pm on BBC4 is Britain in Focus: A Photographic History

 
Thanks for the heads up, having switched to streaming services I miss most of the terrestrial TV programmes.
 
Good spot.

The Britain in Focus seems to be a repeat of the 2017 series which was pretty good.
The Photography Challenge will hopefully be decent too.
 
I’ll look forward to these, I seem to be trawling YouTube recently for some photography inspired content but the quality can be very hit and miss so this should be a welcome change :D
 
I confess I found Master of Photography unwatchable sadly
Same here. It was nice to see the locations they were "challenged" in but some of the critics were so bloody pretentious at times.
 
Same here. It was nice to see the locations they were "challenged" in but some of the critics were so bloody pretentious at times.
It should be remembered that these programs are designed to appeal to the mass market.
If you want instructional videos on the art of photography then you should look elsewhere.
 
Same here. It was nice to see the locations they were "challenged" in but some of the critics were so bloody pretentious at times.
........and then some. Didn't finish watching the series. There is 'a critique' but at times some were just downright bloody rude. A major turn off for me.
 
It should be remembered that these programs are designed to appeal to the mass market.
If you want instructional videos on the art of photography then you should look elsewhere.
I don't feel that actually it does appeal to the mass market in this case, just makes photography seem more elitist and pretentious, rather than being for all.
 
I would not have said "Master of Photography" was aimed at mass market. However I did enjoy watching the previous series myself. In particular, I considered the challenges that were set, and wondered how I would have coped (not very well with many of them). But interesting to see the different approaches taken. Yes the "judges" could be a bit pretentious but it was worth listening to what they said and rejecting if inappropriate as with all photography judges. We will see if the new "Great British Photography Challenge" is any better.

Dave
 
I missed this one, where Mark Lawson interviews David Bailey. Probably most interesting to working pros, but interesting enough to us amateurs, too. It was on tonight (Monday 24th May) from 9-10pm on BBC4.

I didn't miss it and I'm glad I didn't.
Bailey is a remarkable person as well as an incredible photographer, and he came over as pretty much the same person that I first met when he was about 24 - same sense of humour, less arrogant now and he didn't swear at all in the interview, but still with the same charisma and 100% commitment.
 
I watched the Bailey interview.
Didn't learn much about photography but he is one hell of a character.
Nice change from apertures and shutter speeds.
 
i quite enjoyed GBPC last night - some of the things Rankin said rang true with me as my son's A-level teachers had said the same to him
 
I was pleasantly surprised that the GBPC was better than expected last night. Not that I learned anything, but it was reasonable entertainment. and each of the photographers had their own individual characters. However Rankins choice of the skull and the mirror images at the end, were not expected by me, as they were not particularly well done or exploited the possibilities very well at all. However I would not argue with the fashion choice.

None of them seemed to have an input into the lighting but simply shot what was in front of them with the lighting as set.
 
Yes I watched the GBPC as well and it was enjoyable. I thought that the contestants were supposed to be amateurs but looking them up on Google suggests that several are professional. It was better for not knocking out one each time as they all will get the full experience and chance to develop. Next time I do some studio photography, I must ask our organiser to be sure that a fashion designer is also supplied with the model along with a large wardrobe of clothes.

Dave
 
I also watched and enjoyed GBPC last night - it was a lot less 'confrontational' than Masters Of Photography.

I was interested to note that Chris Packham was quite against having the dark tree behind the Badger skull, but Rankin didn't mention it when he commented on how good he thought it was.
 
I only watched the David Bailey one, I don’t know the others. I haven’t had any contact with Bailey for years either, but he has always been an inspiration to me. Obviously he will have changed a lot over the years, we all do, but he seems to me from the interview to be the same man that he always was.

He’s been a celebrity for many years, but even in his early days he didn’t suffer fools gladly (or at all) and he never hesitated to tell them to f*** off, even when their money was important to him.

He was always a bit of a geezer and he knew all of the villains of the day, not just the Krays, but he was sort of on the edge of their world, he shouldn’t be criticised for making use of his contacts because, in London at that time, it was impossible to manage without doing so.. Patrick Lichfield (who I didn’t know) made some very critical comments about his criminal associations, but he was a cousin of the Queen and lived in a very different world . . .

Bailey always had an extremely active “social” life and women used to pretty much queue up. Back in the early days, nearly all of the top fashion photographers were gay, Bailey definitely wasn’t and this brought a breath of fresh air to his approach simply because even when a photographer of the opposite gender is behaving professionally, models react very differently and produce a much better look if they know that there’s a very good chance of more than just photography.

He was part of a group of other talented photographers, they socialised together and often worked together and each was exceptional in his own way. One of them was Duffy, a strange guy but very talented, a few years older than Bailey, and another was Tel Donovan, a giant of a man who acted as minder as well as being a great photographer in his own right. After a while, his name morphed from Tel to Terry and it was after his death that he became known as Terence, which didn’t really suit him.

One reason that Bailey never ever talks about technicalities is that he is a master of all things technical and just applies his vast knowledge to every shot, without ever seeming to give the technicalities any thought – we can all learn from this, because mastery of the technicalities allows us to concentrate on the artistry.

Bailey in private conversation is/was very different to Bailey when being interviewed, with very colourful language and very direct comments, but he always used a code when speaking in public, for example he would never say anything bad about anyone but everyone who knew him understood that “He’s a great guy, very nice” translates to “He’s a total c***” and he used those words to describe his interviewer, right at the end, which he didn’t seem to cotton on to:)
 
I was interested to note that Chris Packham was quite against having the dark tree behind the Badger skull, but Rankin didn't mention it when he commented on how good he thought it was.

That's probably because the presented image had been cropped in, compared to the out of camera frame that Packham saw, so there was no longer a massive change between light and dark in the background.
 
Just caught up with GBPC and I now have to go to Brighton in the next month or so. :D

I didn't watch the previous challenge but I like the format of this one. Everyone gets to receive feedback all the way through the programme, not only on their own photos but on the others as well, and that's got to be valuable. I don't know who are the professionals out of the contestants, but I'd be really surprised if street photographer Georgie hadn't sold quite a few photos; the ones we got to see were excellent, IMO.
 
Thanks for the heads up Garry, I really enjoyed the format GBPC - hopefully as it progresses Rankin will delve more deeply into his thoughts on settings and lighting.
 
I noticed that it was Chelsea who found the Skull. I was puzzled by the fact that she did not use it but one of the guys used it and his pic was praised. I have just seen a review of the programme and it is described as dull as they are not dropping contestants each week like bake-off. I personally thought that it was better for this.

Dave
 
I have just seen a review of the programme and it is described as dull as they are not dropping contestants each week like bake-off. I personally thought that it was better for this.

I agree with that,

I've always felt that this type of programme Bake-off etc, would much more interesting, and fairer, if we got to see how everyone developed over the period of competition. rather than throwing someone out every week.
 
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