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Pretty largish crop as I had my 300 on the second body.Other camera was pointing elsewhere,

It was quite large as well.

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Nothing done other than crop,shadow lift and sharpen.
 
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Don't you know or is it another quiz? I'd have said Sparrow Hawk or Kestrel. Difficult to tell from the range.
 
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I don`t know..............:D

Way bigger than a Kes, when I first spotted it I thought it was a buzzard,similar size...........:shrug:

I think it was either a hen harrier or a montagus harrier.
 
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Yeh, if it's that big could be a Harrier. It's deffo not a Buzzard. We have Hen Harriers up here but I've not seen one. We don't have Montagues.
 
The plot thickens then Ian, I originally thought Buzzard, that size, but then I saw the tail and thought not.

Confusion reigns.................:D

Would it help if I posted the uncropped pic?
 
Merlin are smaller than kestral....what kind of habitat was it?? Might even be a hobby...
 
All i can say for definite is its a Falco (something or other) and none of them are as big as a Buzzard, it could be an immature bird with the colouration etc, it may even be a peregrine, but something doesnt feel right for that, not that im always right on these things ;)
 
IanC_UK said:
Hmmm not sure, it looks almost like a Merlin ? but they arent Buzzard size
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North west England Ian, we don`t get merlins, I think.

Here is the original shot.

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Sorry guys, this was over woodland next to a river. It was nearly buzzard size, certainly bigger that the crows mobbing it.

Yep, it looks like a falcon, but i REALLY DON`T KNOW............:shrug:
 
Ian, this was a large bird, bigger than a hobby, S/hawk or kes.


PS...............the KF`s were having a ball today..............(y)
 
Knowing my crap PP skills, could I e-mail the raw file to somebody more skilled than I, see if we can improve the image?
 
Just caught up on here OK Guys? :p

My initial thoughts are "Hobby"
Here is a size chart


Hobby
Length 30-36cm 12-14"
Wingspan 82-92cm 32-36"
Weight 130-340g 4-12oz
The Northern Hobby, or just Hobby,
is similar in size to kestrel, but has a shorter tail & long sickle-shaped

Merlin
Length: 9-11 in. (male); 11-12 in. (female)
Weight: 4.5-6.6 oz. (male); 6.4-8.3 oz. (female)
Wingspan: 21-23 in. (male); 24-27 in. (female)
 
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Is a shame you havent got one of it being mobbed ?
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I`m really sorry and shall try better in future....................:LOL:
 
Its a crap picture ( sorry Ade :D)
If your size is accurate ( as big as a Buzzard) the only other thing it could be is a female Gos hawk
edit just seen your link Ian (y)
 
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Cobra said:
Just caught up on here OK Guys? :p

My initial thoughts are "Hobby"
Here is a size chart


Hobby
Length 30-36cm 12-14"
Wingspan 82-92cm 32-36"
Weight 130-340g 4-12oz
The Northern Hobby, or just Hobby,
is similar in size to kestrel, but has a shorter tail & long sickle-shaped

Merlin
Length: 9-11 in. (male); 11-12 in. (female)
Weight: 4.5-6.6 oz. (male); 6.4-8.3 oz. (female)
Wingspan: 21-23 in. (male); 24-27 in. (female)
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And where have you been?...............:D

Way bigger Chris, much larger than a kes.
 
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Its a crap picture ( sorry Ade :D)
If your size is accurate ( as big as a Buzzard) the only other thing it could be is a female Gos hawk
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Ouch, you know how sensitive I am , are the legs the right colour?
 
fracster said:
And where have you been?...............:D
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:razz: :D
Then the only other thing it can be is an Accipiter gentilis
They can look rather like "falco" in flight
 
Ah well, I`ll sleep on it. Have a rethink and research in the morning......:wacky:
 
I think you will find its a Goshawk, probably female or Juvenile mate :) still quite rare catch if it is one :)

These are Marsh Harriers, but they are all pretty much the same, wings like Buzzards with the fingers and much broader

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Female Marsh harrier (not great pics but was miles away lol)
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Montagus Harrier (even further away and really hazy day)
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Cheers bud, your probably right. Later...........sack time for me.
 
IanC_UK said:
I think you will find its a Goshawk, probably female :) still quite rare catch if it is one :)
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Agreed on both counts (y)
I didn't think it was a "harrier" but I really haven't seen many at all
( except a few marshes as you know,)
So I will have to bow to your knowledge on those Ian (y)
 
Hi, i took the liberty of putting the image on a falconry site and asked for an ID.
No one could ID it with certainty, but it seems that it's definately a Falcon and not a Hawk, and the favourite is an escaped Hybrid.
It was suggested that it may be a juvenile of some sort which would make it difficult to ID.

that's about as good as it gets, sorry !

Keith.
 
Thanks Keith.........(y)
 
Kestrel was my first thought,so i will stick with that.

Best from mike.
 
Don't suppose it's a Honey Buzzard ???
 
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