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I'm looking at replacing my monitor. I was going to get the Dell UltraSharp U2413 but came across this Eizo EV2436WFS so before I pull the trigger I wondered if anyone had used the Eizo, I know the Dell has a very good rep but so do Eizo's

TIA :)
 
I'm also interested in this, the 2413 after reading some threads i get the impression is a pretty solid monitor - i'll be interested in following this to see what people suggest since i'm also in the market for a monitor, but only had a few suggestions so far.
 
Whatever you go for,make sure its an IPS or PLS panel as they give the best colour reproduction.
 
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/ is usually worth checking out.

I hesitate to suggest this but I've yet to find a better deal than the 27" Korean monitors like Achieva Shimian or Catleap.
Thanks for the link. I've not really heard much about the brands you mention and initial reviews I've read seem to suggest they have issues when calibrated.

Whatever you go for,make sure its an IPS or PLS panel as they give the best colour reproduction.
Both the ones I've mentioned in my OP are IPS :)
 
Don't get excited just because it says "Eizo" on it. They make a whole range of screens, and they're not all high end screens for imaging specialisations. The EV2436WFS is designed as a general purpose monitor, and although I've never used it, it would appear to be IPS and have good technical figures. Don't assume that a IPS screen is all you need to look out for though. I've seen some terrible IPS screens in my time. I doubt the Eizo above will be terrible, but the Dell U2413 is a MUCH better bet as it can be hardware profiled with a i1 Display pro calibrator, whereas the Eizo can not.

I've also used the Dell extensively, and can vouch for it. Hardware calibrated with the i1 Display Pro, it appears almost as good as my Eizo CG303W.. except smaller. My 303W does blacks a little better, but then again, it was 6 times the price and subtle black gradation is one of the hardest things for a LCD panel to cope with, but I was amazed by the Dell when properly profiled... both of them.... the U2413 and the U2713H. Both fantastic screens.

The Dell is a genuine wide gamut screen, whereas the Eizo is not. However... unless your workflow is colour managed wide gamut may cause you issues with games and TV if you use the screen for that, as anything unmanaged can appear to be over-saturated. Almost all decent wide gamut screens will have a sRGB mode you can use when watching TV or playing games though.

As the Eizo EV2436WFS and the Dell U2413 are both around the same price, I'd get the Dell every time without hesitation.


The cheap Korean panels I wouldn't bother with. They're cheap, but that's about all. Crappy stands, poor ergonomics, and usually very limited OSD menu options. I've only used the Catleap one, and it was terrible.... hard, creaky plastic stand, that could only tilt forward and back... no height adjustment, and certainly no rotation. Had almost nothing in the on screen menu... just brightness as I recall.. that's it. On Overclock.net there are reports of screens being badly packaged and arriving damaged etc. I'd stay well clear. As with all things... there's no such thing as a free lunch, and if something is very cheap, there's usually a reason. I never bothered profiling it, but as there were hardly any OSD menu options for adjustments, it would profile badly I imagine. To profile properly, you need to be able to adjust the screens brightness, contrast and colour balance to get as close to neutral as possible, and then the calibrator does it's job. The further away from neutral a screen is, the bigger the changes the .ICM profile needs to make to your graphics card's LUT, and as you are only working at 8bit level with software profiling, this seriously degrades quality. Yes.. you heard me right.... software calibrating can lower image quality at the expense of accuracy if the adjustments needed are excessive. Basically, this manifests itself as banding on smooth gradients. If too excessive, it won't calibrate at all though. So, software calibrating a screen with almost no OSD controls is pot luck.

If you're not bothered about accuracy, the Korean screens are a cheap way to get a big monitor for little money... but that's pretty much the only plus point I can say in their favour.
 
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I've also used the Dell extensively, and can vouch for it. Hardware calibrated with the i1 Display Pro, it appears almost as good as my Eizo CG303W.. except smaller. My 303W does blacks a little better, but then again, it was 6 times the price and subtle black gradation is one of the hardest things for a LCD panel to cope with, but I was amazed by the Dell when properly profiled... both of them.... the U2413 and the U2713H. Both fantastic screens.

The Dell is a genuine wide gamut screen, whereas the Eizo is not. However... unless your workflow is colour managed wide gamut may cause you issues with games and TV if you use the screen for that, as anything unmanaged can appear to be over-saturated. Almost all decent wide gamut screens will have a sRGB mode you can use when watching TV or playing games though.

As the Eizo EV2436WFS and the Dell U2413 are both around the same price, I'd get the Dell every time without hesitation.

The last time I looked (a few years ago now), the only thing that put me off the Dell monitors was that they were excessively bright and couldn't be turned down enough (I aim for 100 cd/m2 when calibrating monitors, or as close as I can get). How are the current ones - are they any better in that regard?

Cheers :)
 
Im getting a bit tired of repeating myself....

but

you need a 30bit capable graphics card for these monitors...

AMD FirePro or NVidia Quadro 2000 or above....

Dave
 
Im getting a bit tired of repeating myself....

but

you need a 30bit capable graphics card for these monitors...

AMD FirePro or NVidia Quadro 2000 or above....

Dave


Apart from the ones you mention, how can you tell if a card is 30-bit capable or not? (A lot of the spec pages don't say one way or the other).
 
The last time I looked (a few years ago now), the only thing that put me off the Dell monitors was that they were excessively bright and couldn't be turned down enough (I aim for 100 cd/m2 when calibrating monitors, or as close as I can get). How are the current ones - are they any better in that regard?

Cheers :)


I've never had that, and I've had loads of them. A 2405, 2407, 3011, 2410, and I've extensively used the 2413 and 2713... all of them calibrated well at 100cd/m2. No idea why you've had that problem. What were you using to calibrate?

Is a 4k monitor worth buying? Something like the NEC MultiSync EA244UHD?

Not yet, no. Immature tech... and certainly no great advantage. They're nice, but I'd wait for prices to drop, and for manufacturers to make some that are geared more towards our needs. I'm sure it's lovely, but I'm waiting for a reference series of Eizo CG 4k screen - If I'm going to invest in something that expensive, I only want to do so if the screen is amazing.

There's a 12-page review on the Eizo here - http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2012/review-eizo-ev2436wfs-bk.html#Introduction

It's not a ColorEdge but at least it's 16:10, but then so is the Dell.

It looks perfecty fine, and I'm sure it's a nice screen... it's just that for a little less money you can get the Dell 2413, which can be hardware profiled, and is a known quantity.
 
Don't get excited just because it says "Eizo" on it. They make a whole range of screens, and they're not all high end screens for imaging specialisations. The EV2436WFS is designed as a general purpose monitor, and although I've never used it, it would appear to be IPS and have good technical figures. Don't assume that a IPS screen is all you need to look out for though. I've seen some terrible IPS screens in my time. I doubt the Eizo above will be terrible, but the Dell U2413 is a MUCH better bet as it can be hardware profiled with a i1 Display pro calibrator, whereas the Eizo can not.

I've also used the Dell extensively, and can vouch for it. Hardware calibrated with the i1 Display Pro, it appears almost as good as my Eizo CG303W.. except smaller. My 303W does blacks a little better, but then again, it was 6 times the price and subtle black gradation is one of the hardest things for a LCD panel to cope with, but I was amazed by the Dell when properly profiled... both of them.... the U2413 and the U2713H. Both fantastic screens.

The Dell is a genuine wide gamut screen, whereas the Eizo is not. However... unless your workflow is colour managed wide gamut may cause you issues with games and TV if you use the screen for that, as anything unmanaged can appear to be over-saturated. Almost all decent wide gamut screens will have a sRGB mode you can use when watching TV or playing games though.

As the Eizo EV2436WFS and the Dell U2413 are both around the same price, I'd get the Dell every time without hesitation.


The cheap Korean panels I wouldn't bother with. They're cheap, but that's about all. Crappy stands, poor ergonomics, and usually very limited OSD menu options. I've only used the Catleap one, and it was terrible.... hard, creaky plastic stand, that could only tilt forward and back... no height adjustment, and certainly no rotation. Had almost nothing in the on screen menu... just brightness as I recall.. that's it. On Overclock.net there are reports of screens being badly packaged and arriving damaged etc. I'd stay well clear. As with all things... there's no such thing as a free lunch, and if something is very cheap, there's usually a reason. I never bothered profiling it, but as there were hardly any OSD menu options for adjustments, it would profile badly I imagine. To profile properly, you need to be able to adjust the screens brightness, contrast and colour balance to get as close to neutral as possible, and then the calibrator does it's job. The further away from neutral a screen is, the bigger the changes the .ICM profile needs to make to your graphics card's LUT, and as you are only working at 8bit level with software profiling, this seriously degrades quality. Yes.. you heard me right.... software calibrating can lower image quality at the expense of accuracy if the adjustments needed are excessive. Basically, this manifests itself as banding on smooth gradients. If too excessive, it won't calibrate at all though. So, software calibrating a screen with almost no OSD controls is pot luck.

If you're not bothered about accuracy, the Korean screens are a cheap way to get a big monitor for little money... but that's pretty much the only plus point I can say in their favour.
Many thanks David, just the info I needed. The Dell it will be :)
 
Im getting a bit tired of repeating myself....

but

you need a 30bit capable graphics card for these monitors...

AMD FirePro or NVidia Quadro 2000 or above....

Dave


For which monitors? Nothing mentioned in this thread requires 10bit per channel. Also, nothing mentioned in this thread can even display 10bits per channel properly (except the NEC), so I'm left wondering what the hell you're on about :) The Eizo under discussion is just an office monitor... nothing special, and the Dell's being discussed only have 8 bit panels. They are listed as 10bit, but in reality they are 8bit + dithering. A Quadro card would offer no advantage for work with any screen mentioned in this thread.

Also, you don't NEED a 10bit display to drive a 10 bit panel.
 
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Is a 4k monitor worth buying? Something like the NEC MultiSync EA244UHD?


You've just reminded me....

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&sku=210-ACBL


Looks interesting.

You will need to drive it from display port though to run it at native 4k res at decent refresh rates. Many GPUs have that now, but only the higher end ones.

http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/technology/4k/supported-gpus

Proper workstation GPUs have had it for a while though.

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The Dell 4K screen can be hardware profiled... NOW I'm interested. I stopped paying attention to 4K when the NEC or Asus offerings came out as they couldn't be, but now I know the Dell can be, we have a serious option in 4K, and I'm wondering how much better NEC reference or Eizo CG versions could be. Having seen the Dell U2713H stack up against my own Eizo CG303W, I'm not convinced the price premium is entirely worth it. I'll see if I can get my hands on one from supply contacts. If I can put one through it's paces for a week or so and it passes muster... Hmmmm...

Cheers for bringing 4K up!... I'd sort of dismissed it as resolution whoring at the moment, but now there's a 14bit programmable LUT option, it's starting to make sense.
 
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The Dell is a genuine wide gamut screen, whereas the Eizo is not. However... unless your workflow is colour managed wide gamut may cause you issues with games and TV if you use the screen for that, as anything unmanaged can appear to be over-saturated. Almost all decent wide gamut screens will have a sRGB mode you can use when watching TV or playing games though.

Speaking as an owner of the Dell im probably not using it as i should after reading this bit. Ive just got it set to sRGB in the Display Manager app and left it at that after profiling it with a Spyder 4. There are a stack of other options though, what should i be using? If i can just toggle it back to sRGB for my games and have a better setup for Lightoom / PS? There is a CAL1 and 2 option which i guess is for calibration on the wide gamut? i take it i should be using that for photo editing?

I hasten to add that the printouts match the monitor at the moment for the first time ever so i dont want to wreck things by fiddling.

Its a gorgeous monitor BTW and dead happy with it even in RGB mode! What also made it good for me is that it has HDMI ports and a sound cable output socket so i can plug my consoles into it and free up my tv which is dead handy.
 
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Speaking as an owner of the Dell im probably not using it as i should after reading this bit. Ive just got it set to sRGB in the Display Manager app and left it at that after profiling it with a Spyder 4. There are a stack of other options though, what should i be using? If i can just toggle it back to sRGB for my games and have a better setup for Lightoom / PS? There is a CAL1 and 2 option which i guess is for calibration on the wide gamut? i take it i should be using that for photo editing?

I hasten to add that the printouts match the monitor at the moment for the first time ever so i dont want to wreck things by fiddling.

Its a gorgeous monitor BTW and dead happy with it even in RGB mode! What also made it good for me is that it has HDMI ports and a sound cable output socket so i can plug my consoles into it and free up my tv which is dead handy.

Which Dell are you using.. the U2413?

Set to sRGB, you are obviously limiting the colour gamut to that colourspace, which isn't the end of the world, but your images in RAW will be much wider gamut. The problem with running in Wide gamut is that it becomes very important to embed your images with the correct profiles for the uses they will be put to. One thing a lot of wide gamut screen users do, is embed their images with Adobe RGB1998 or Pro Photo as they take advantage of the screens available gamut, but these images can appear very desaturated when viewed online, so you need to get into teh habit of saving a separate copy embedded with sRGB for online use. Not a massive issue. The other problem with wide gamut screens is that TV, movies and games are not colour profiled, so they appear OVER saturated on a wide gamut screen. Fortunately, most decent wide gamut screens have a "sRGB" mode, and this should be used for TV, Games and movies (as you seem to be doing already).

As you are calibrating with the Spyder 4 however, you should recalibrate in Custom Colour mode to take advantage of the screens native gamut (you can always switch to sRGB mode for TV and games etc).

CAL1 and CAL2 are reserved for hardware profiling, which you can't do unless you have the X-Rite i1 Display Pro, so can not be used by you right now, as you're software profiling with the Spyder.

(Hardware profiling means the calibrator is used to program the monitor's own LUT at a greater bit-depth for accuracy, and software profiling means the calibrator creates a profile for the graphics card's LUT, which is at 8bit level for most non-workstation cards, and thus can cause banding on gradients).
 
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cheers for that. I'll re fiddle over the weekend. Yeah its the U2413. as an aside id reccomend people keep an eye on Amazons returns. I got mine £200 off as it had a scratch on the packaging. The monitor was untouched but returned as the cardboard box had a dink in it! They do a 30 day money back on all their return sales so its worth a punt if you see something.
 
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Just remember, when in Wide Gamut mode (Custom Color) images embedded with sRGB will correctly display in a sRGB colourspace, but when in sRGB mode, a winer gamut Adobe RGB image will still appear as sRGB. If your images are embedded with the correct profile, and your image view/image software is ICC capable, then everything will appear correct. You only run into problems with wide gamut images when the device or software viewing the images can not honour the ICC profile. Most browsers do these days, but tablets and mobile devices probably don't so it;s really important that anything destined for online use is embedded with sRGB.
 
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@essexash Oh.. one more thing... Profiling in wide gamut may reveal some issues when printing if your printer can't handle the colourspace. If you get issues, embed the image with sRGB for printing, and that should sort it.
 
I've never had that, and I've had loads of them. A 2405, 2407, 3011, 2410, and I've extensively used the 2413 and 2713... all of them calibrated well at 100cd/m2. No idea why you've had that problem. What were you using to calibrate?

It wasn't a question of what I was using to calibrate - the problem was that you couldn't set the monitor itself to a low enough luminance level. Yes, you can compensate for that in the calibration profile, or reducing the RGB settings (both of which do much the same thing in DVI mode) but it's not as good as physically setting the monitor to the lower level - the contrast/black levels are compromised and it can cause banding. As I say, though, that was a good few years ago...
 
Which monitor was it? As I said, I've never had that issue with any Dell monitor, and I've had quite a few, ranging from the first widescreen LCD panel they made through to the most recent. Have you considered that yours was faulty?
 
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I'm also interested in this, the 2413 after reading some threads i get the impression is a pretty solid monitor - i'll be interested in following this to see what people suggest since i'm also in the market for a monitor, but only had a few suggestions so far.

i got the very screen, it supports hardware calibration which is awesome. it is pretty impressive screen and does suffer some back light leaching due to the silly LED control buttoms on the bottom left corner. it also suffers from overdirve issue as you cannot turn the feature off. but it doesn't affect me as I don't do gaming or watch movies on it.

so for photoediting, it is ideal really.
 
Which monitor was it? As I said, I've never had that issue with any Dell monitor, and I've had quite a few, ranging from the first widescreen LCD panel they made through to the most recent. Have you considered that yours was faulty?

Last time I was looking it may have been the 2405, I don't recall exactly. I didn't buy one because the reviews I'd seen showed that the only way to get the luminance near 100 cd/m2 was to either use the calibration curve or cut the RGB levels right down in the monitor, neither of which is ideal for contrast ratio or smooth gradients. I just wondered if the more recent ones will get to a lower luminance level while maintaining the contrast ratio. I've since answered my own question, however, now that I've found the reviews on tftcentral, and it looks like the current Dell range is pretty good in this department :)
 
For everyone's info, Getty have used Dell monitors at every Olympics, World Cup and Euros since 2008. They really are great monitors.
 
Last time I was looking it may have been the 2405, I don't recall exactly. I didn't buy one because the reviews I'd seen showed that the only way to get the luminance near 100 cd/m2 was to either use the calibration curve or cut the RGB levels right down in the monitor, neither of which is ideal for contrast ratio or smooth gradients. I just wondered if the more recent ones will get to a lower luminance level while maintaining the contrast ratio. I've since answered my own question, however, now that I've found the reviews on tftcentral, and it looks like the current Dell range is pretty good in this department :)


I still have a 2405. It's now my wife's monitor. Calibrated beautifully with the x-rite i1 Display Pro, and it's 8 years old now. Don't believe everything you read on the interwebz :)

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Without wanting to take this too far from the topic: David (and everyone else), seeing as you've used a lot of monitors in your time - have you ever had issues with backlight bleed and/or excessive IPS glow on the Dells? Specifically the 2713H.

The more I read, the more I see people complaining about this (I know, it's the internet). Some of the photos look bonkers though, and I wonder how anyone could be happy processing on them.

Secondly, do you have any experience with NEC monitors? Any opinion on whether they're worth the premium?
 
Im getting a bit tired of repeating myself....

but

you need a 30bit capable graphics card for these monitors...

AMD FirePro or NVidia Quadro 2000 or above....

Dave
As Pookeyhead has said no you don't.

The biggest issue with 10 bit workflow is the software. As the link Ozei has posted, you need 10 bit software too - which limits you to (effectively) Photoshop. Additionally, 99.9% of people will be viewing output on an uncalibrated 8 bit monitor or print in sRGB so you are going to end up having screwy colours for 99.9% of the population unless you are very careful.

Whilst the world works in 8-bit sRGB, unless you know exactly what you are doing, you are probably better off working in 8 bit sRGB for your workflow.
 
As Pookeyhead has said no you don't.

The biggest issue with 10 bit workflow is the software. As the link Ozei has posted, you need 10 bit software too - which limits you to (effectively) Photoshop. Additionally, 99.9% of people will be viewing output on an uncalibrated 8 bit monitor or print in sRGB so you are going to end up having screwy colours for 99.9% of the population unless you are very careful.

Whilst the world works in 8-bit sRGB, unless you know exactly what you are doing, you are probably better off working in 8 bit sRGB for your workflow.

The other problem with the two cards mentioned is the price (nearly £800 for the FirePro).

Having said that, I sometimes get banding on skies and can't tell whether it's:

a) my monitor and/or graphics card can't display all the colours
or
b) the banding is present in the edited image and will therefore appear on a print.​

Wouldn't a 10-bit per channel card (and Photoshop set to 30-bit) tell me whether it's a) or b)?
 
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Run the eyedropper tool (or whatever it is called) where the banding is and see what the RGB values are. If it is in the image, there will be a significant RGB change over the banding point. If there isn't a big change, it's your monitor and how it is setup....
 
The other problem with the two cards mentioned is the price (nearly £800 for the FirePro).

Having said that, I sometimes get banding on skies and can't tell whether it's:

a) my monitor and/or graphics card can't display all the colours
or
b) the banding is present in the edited image and will therefore appear on a print.​

Wouldn't a 10-bit per channel card (and Photoshop set to 30-bit) tell me whether it's a) or b)?


The sources of banding could be many. If you have software calibrated a 8bit workflow, that may be the source. It could be over processing of the image... it might be a limitation of your monitor. Unless ALL your workflow is 10bit (GPU, monitor and software) it will be hard to tell. As your last line suggests... running a quick print off would be one way to eliminate the monitor or not. Andy's sugestion is solid too, but ensure it's sampling just one pixel at a time, and not a 5 by 5 average or something, otherwise it's meaningless.


Without wanting to take this too far from the topic: David (and everyone else), seeing as you've used a lot of monitors in your time - have you ever had issues with backlight bleed and/or excessive IPS glow on the Dells? Specifically the 2713H.


Are you confusing backlight bleed with "IPS glow"? All IPS screens will glow a silvery grey blue when viewed at an angle I'm afraid. It's just an IPS thing. It's why I have a soft spot for S-PVA screens.. sadly no longer avialble in high end screens since everyone raves about IPS. Just view head on. If you are genuinely getting backlight bleed, how bad is it? With a black screen in a dark room you're bound to get a little, yes.

Just to re-iterate... crap blacks and glow at steep viewing angles is normal for IPS. Few realise this thanks to the internet idiots who perpetuate the myth that ISP has "great viewing angles". This is worse on larger screens if you sit close to them, as the viewing angle will only be correct at the centre, as being so large, if you're close, the angle between your eyes and the edges of the screen can be quite steep. In this scenario, you'll notice IPS glow in the corners yes. Is the screen calibrated? If calibrated to a sensible brightness...it shouldn't be obtrusive in normal use. Only if you sit there looking at incredibly dark content from either acute angles, or from very close will it be a problem. Use it normally, from normal distances, with normal to dim room lighting and you'll be OK.

I still miss S-PVA though for this reason, but almost all decent screens are IPS these days, so we're stuck with it. IPS has great colour and gamut accuracy over wide angles, but black levels are by far the worst of any other kind of monitor from acute angles.

Sensible distance... head on.... job's a good'un :)

Secondly, do you have any experience with NEC monitors? Any opinion on whether they're worth the premium?

yes I have. The reference series are utterly superb, as is the PA series. They're IPS though.. so you'll still get IPS glow :)

I've only used reference and PA series though, and with most manufacturers, there's a wide range available, from low end office monitors, to the very high end reference series. Having "NEC" on it doesn't mean it's good. Do you have a model number?

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Forgot to mention... I've also used the WUXI and WUXI 2 series of NEC monitors, which are also impressive.
 
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Whilst the world works in 8-bit sRGB, unless you know exactly what you are doing, you are probably better off working in 8 bit sRGB for your workflow.

That's like saying there's no point in buying a car that can do 140mph and then driving on UK roads. Yeah, but guess what, loads 'o peeps own fast cars!

My take on it is this. Current (affordable and mainstream) camera tech cannot yet properly match (a) the dynamic range, (b) the tonal response and (c) the colour gamut, of the human eye, which is one of the main reasons why photos never quite look the same as when you were there. Anything I can do to improve this situation I will, so if my camera can capture images with a wider gamut than sRGB, and in 10-bits, then I will definitely use it, and therefore l will need a wide gamut 10-bit monitor and pipeline. Who cares if other people can't benefit from this, along as I get to enjoy my photos in all their glory, then that's worth it (just like the guy gets to enjoy driving the fast car).

Unfortunately, I've not stumped up the large amount of £££ needed to buy into 10-bit photography, so I remain firmed rooted in 8-bit land. Maybe one day......
 
Let me shatter some myths.

A clean 8bit workflow, viewed on a genuine HARDWARE calibrated 10bit panel is pretty much indistinguishable from a genuine 10bit workflow. Only if you start getting stupid with your processing will you see the difference.

There is still a MASSIVE advantage to having a genuine 10bit panel, even if you have a 8bit workflow if the screen can be HARDWARE profiled.

Software profiling of 8bit GPU's on the other hand, adds banding. It just does. You can live with it.... but it does. It won't be in your prints either in most cases, but you can never be sure until you print (or view on either a clean unadjusted 8bit output, or a full 10bit workflow).

If you software profile, a 10bit screen is a waste, yes. This, is why whenever I recommend the new Dell's 2413/2713 etc, I also strongly recommend the i1 Display Pro to go with it, as then it can be hardware profiled at 14bit level. Hardware profiling a monitor allows for no adjustment of the GPU's output, and therefore the output is clean and unmolested.

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VERY few screens are actually genuinely 10bit. Even my Eizo CG is 8bit plus dithering.. it's only really a psuedo 10bit.

10 bit ain't all that. Get over it :) When the new generation of pure 10bit 4K panels come out, then maybe it will be worth debating, but it's a storm in a teacup now... pretty much like the Pro Photo thing... also a load of b****x.
 
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That's like saying there's no point in buying a car that can do 140mph and then driving on UK roads. Yeah, but guess what, loads 'o peeps own fast cars!
Yup.. Including me (although mine can do 150mph ;)). My only interest is getting from 0-60 in as quick a time as is possible. I still (generally) stick to the speed limit... I still stick to sRGB when processing too.

Lowest common denominator wins unfortunately....
 
@Pookeyhead I'm not using any of these screens myself. I'm on a 27" imac at the moment, but consisting the pros and cons of upgrading to a decent system late in the year.

In aware IPS glow is the nature of the beast, I've just read a lot of people complaining the 2713h had poor QC variations from panel to panel, and that back light bleed was also an issue with them. Had a lot of people saying NEC take things more seriously and you're less likely to get a lemon. And have been told the PA272W is the way to go. Of course that's a lot of cash compared to the Dell, so was wondering if the differences are going to be that noticeable. (Also heard people complaining about red glow on the NEC from the different back lighting).
 
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