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Nikon should definately not go down the "duel" mode camera route.
They're including a set of pistols with the pro cameras now? Good try, but it still won't be a match for a Can(n)on.....
Nikon should definately not go down the "duel" mode camera route.
kevshore said:The reality is, that D3s owners are more likely to change over than most think. It's only likely to cost about £1800 to swop.
For that we get a new body under warranty that is updated. A few improvements also.
In the real scheme of photography equpment, £1800 isn't a huge amount. Whenever new kit is announced, you always get people slagging off the manufacturers for not doing this, or doing that.
No such thing as the perfect bit of kit that everyone will like. That's life. You can say that about anything.
But, the D4 will sell, because it will be an excellent piece of engineering and do it's job reliably.
Will I buy one? probably. I'll enjoy discovering the new features, just as I did with the D3s
Depends how long they keep me waiting though. Not good at waiting.
Kev.
What do people think of the different card slots, I mean CF x2 makes sense and 2 x XQD makes sense but what is the rationale behind one of each other than just use one or the other?
his D3s wouldn't lock on in low light in confusing backgrounds.
About five weeks at current estimate. It'll be on the shelves between 14-16 Feb.
Btw, I'd say that your £1800 uplift is a bit optimistic. More like £2000-2300 if your D3s is in excellent nick and you aren't part exchanging.
Improve the af? Really? Great if it is but the last generation of Nikon pro gear I've never heard anyone complain about it!
The problem everyone is talking about is just what else could have been added to a state of the art dslr? What did you all imagine it could have been?
The only ever so slight thing for me would have been 18mp so the dx mode gave me 12mp not 10... But that's not really a problem.
In my book the best just got better and I think if I ever got my hands on it I'd find even more than the spec sheet tells me...
What do people think of the different card slots, I mean CF x2 makes sense and 2 x XQD makes sense but what is the rationale behind one of each other than just use one or the other?
...just what else could have been added to a state of the art dslr? ...
Not sure your fully grasping the benefits of the movie mode on the DSLR. Can your camcorder use interchangeable lenses? Can you dynamically adjust the DoF on it? Manually adjust the focus on the fly? The quality of output/optics on a pro level slr with pro level lenses will blow any non-pro video solution out of the water.
Plus, any pro video user is likely to combine short clips in post rather than record a single 8 hour stretch of scene.
I'm getting the D4 for its video benefits also.
My Panasonic TZ3 compact camera can fit in my trouser pocket but I still have a DSLR.On top of that My camcorder can easily fit into a trouser pocket which can't be done with the D4
I'm a little disappointed that the rumoured Thunderbolt connectivity didn't materialise... still, looking on the bright side, it'll save me from having to fork out for a new Macbook too!
Movie mode arguments remind me of the Film vs Digital ones.
I always thought of those against digital as people resistant to change/ progress/ innovation or simply unable to comprehend a use for the technology either through an unwillingness/ ignorance or a lack of imagination
Better to appreciate and accept than waste energy fighting. There are some causes in life I'd be prepared to be the last man standing- movie mode would not be high on that list
realspeed said:My Panasonic camcorder can go up to a digital 700x magnification eliminating the need to change lenses and as for picture quality one of the toughest tests is indoors under artificial light. I would challange any Duel mode DSLR to produce as good as this without adding photograpic lighting. Also note the sound quality (Dolby sound). This clip was uploaded onto youtube at their lowest reproduction quality as well.
Used 32 gig class 4 SDHC card now is recommended class 6 and above
Link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JUnEn9wOq0&feature=related.
On top of that My camcorder can easily fit into a trouser pocket which can't be done with the D4
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/267/dsc6871800x600.jpg/
Picture showing battery pack at the back attached, total length 6 inches. Note stills on this camcorder 14meg pix
As for manual adjustment on the fly check out a button on the top edge of the camera
AS for cost, the latest version is well under £1000
Realspeed
desantnik said:Improve the af? Really? Great if it is but the last generation of Nikon pro gear I've never heard anyone complain about it!
True but if you actually read up on the AF enhancements they sound pretty impressive...certainly for a professional sports photographer.
OutLore said:Quite possibly - I didn't see it, and as it's not directly aimed at anyone and is in no way derogatory, I would imagine the fact that it's in the public domain is irrelevant.
If you're worried about it, report the post to the mods and they'll fix it if they think it warrants it
r1andy said:very very disapointed with the spec and price of this camera.
my two little D700,s will be staying with me for a while yet.
no need for a video recording device , like (wtf) is going in here.
I am a photographer and want a top of the range SLR.
good luck nikon with this one lol.
very very disapointed with the spec and price of this camera.
I am a photographer and want a top of the range SLR.
good luck nikon with this one lol.
My Panasonic camcorder can go up to a digital 700x magnification eliminating the need to change lenses and as for picture quality one of the toughest tests is indoors under artificial light. I would challange any Duel mode DSLR to produce as good as this without adding photograpic lighting. Also note the sound quality (Dolby sound). This clip was uploaded onto youtube at their lowest reproduction quality as well.
Used 32 gig class 4 SDHC card now is recommended class 6 and above
Link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JUnEn9wOq0&feature=related.
On top of that My camcorder can easily fit into a trouser pocket which can't be done with the D4
Picture showing battery pack at the back attached, total length 6 inches. Note stills on this camcorder 14meg pix
As for manual adjustment on the fly check out a button on the top edge of the camera
AS for cost, the latest version is well under £1000
Realspeed
Or you could just edit it yourself and stop putting words in my mouth.
I went to see what he (Andy Rouse) said:
sometimes it (D3S) cannot immediately pick up fast moving subjects in low light conditions against confusing backgrounds.
I'm no birder so maybe I just fail to understand how he is working but I don't get what he's trying to describe?
Maybe its because all of my subjects are rather bigger in the frame than his?
I've come across a few things on TP where it seems wildlife photography is quite different to motorsport.
Very serious
R u trying to tell me to jump from the image quality of a D700 to a D7000 is worth an extra £3000.
I went to see what he (Andy Rouse) said:
sometimes it (D3S) cannot immediately pick up fast moving subjects in low light conditions against confusing backgrounds.
I'm no birder so maybe I just fail to understand how he is working but I don't get what he's trying to describe?
Maybe its because all of my subjects are rather bigger in the frame than his?
I've come across a few things on TP where it seems wildlife photography is quite different to motorsport.
I didn't know that was on Vimeo as well. Looks so much better than on YouTube