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  1. jamesb84

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    Hopefully this will become a sticky to clear up this issue once and for all.

    The rules governing photography at Football League or Premier League grounds are thus:

    Source: The FA Ground Regulations applicable to ALL Football League and Premier League stadia, or stadia where Football League or Premier League teams play.

    In reality, many clubs will turn a blind eye towards photography using small P&S style cameras. However, this is in contravention of the rules set out by the Football League and Premier League (and it's authorised body the Football DataCo).

    Should the Football DataCo wish to enforce more rigourously the rules surrounding photography at Football League/Premier League stadia, then this WILL be enforced and the following is the sanction:

    Source: The FA Ground Regulations applicable to ALL Football League and Premier League stadia, or stadia where Football League or Premier League teams play.

    Football League and Premier League teams which these rules apply to are;
    1st Team
    Reserve Teams
    Youth Teams

    and the rules apply at whichever stadium or ground those teams play at.

    These rules apply to the warm-ups, match itself or even being in the stadium under the terms of those Ground Regulations (which generally speaking would be any time on a match-day). Tours of the ground would (I imagine) be exempt from these rules. However, it is wise to check with the Club first in all situations where you think it might not be applicable.

    The other issue is that many Clubs themselves are not 100% sure of the rules. If you emailed all 92 Football League clubs you would probably get 92 different answers about whether photography is allowed.

    The bottom line is that these ground regulations specifically forbid photography by ticket-holders (and licence-holders UNLESS you are attending the fixture under the terms of your licence - no sneaky snaps from the stands Tony!) regardless of what their information or customer service people may say.

    It is simply not worth the risk or potential sanction to yourself from attempting to illicitly photograph games at Football League or Premier League stadia.

    These rules have been put in place and whether or not you personally agree with them, if you enter a Football League/Premier League ground you agree to abide by them.

    The only way to photograph Football League/Premier League football is to follow the advice below:

    Source: www.kipax.com/licence.php. Sourced from our very own Kipax.

    Enjoy the match, watch the fooball, leave the camera at home.
    Last edited: Mar 3, 2011
  2. KIPAX

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    Couple of points:)

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    AFAIK The ground rules are not from DataCo and they can't enforce or anything them.. But they do have there own rules on photogrpahy they can enforce

    #2
    The ground rules apply in one form or another to every football ground in the UK at every level.. including non league grounds
  3. jamesb84

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    You are indeed correct, these Ground Regulations are not from the Football DataCo they are from The FA and they do apply to all football grounds in the UK (however I suspect some of the regulations may be altered for Non-League).

    My understanding is that the Football DataCo (being an organisation that is owned by the Football League and FA Premier League) can enforce the rules that are relevant to their operations. The ground regulations are written in conjunction with the Football League/Premier League and therefore by proxy are written by the Football DataCo (for the relevant sections).

    The Football DataCo also manage the fixture lists for Football League/Premier League/Scottish Premier League/Scottish Football League, and they have always enforced their rights over these;

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2005/dec/21/newmedia.comment is an example of this.

    Should the Football DataCo see fit at any time to enforce the rules surrounding photography then it would inevitably be with the strength and resolve demonstrated in the above story.
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    Thanks James :)
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    In the last year I have been taking photos at the games I attend with the majority being at non-league level.

    Two differing attitude at Premier League clubs this season:
    1) Liverpool - not bothered about photography during the game in the slightest and were non fussed about my slr.
    2) Everton - had heard they would confiscate cameras beforehand so e-mailed the club in case. Just took a few ground photos on my compact and nothing of the game.
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    This isn't a thread for discussing various clubs' attitudes towards photography. It's designed as a statement of fact and a definitive guide to the regs regarding taking still images of League football and above.
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    A bit late on this one - but with the new season approaching............

    The above response strikes me as a bit glib. It hardly is a statement of fact when this "fact" appears to be ignored/bent by the clubs and public alike. I have doubts as to the "legality" of this "fact".

    I regularly visit a premiership ground with my (DSLR) camera. The club rules state that you cannot take photographs of the players on the pitch (but even this does not seem to be strictly enforced).

    The club runs photography competitions. Looking at the last lot of finalists, most of the photographs are taken inside of the ground, one inside the home changing room even (team Captain as subject) - but none show the pitch with players on it. This totally complies with the club rules, but not the supposed "rules" quoted above.

    I would say that the rules the club lays down and enforces carry more weight than the FA and/DataCo.
    The ground is Private property, therefore permission of the owner of that property must be obtained and any Ts & Cs that he stipulates must be followed - NOT rules laid down by a third party.
    If the third party's rules are required to be followed, they must be advertised and enforced by the club as being club rules, otherwise they are meaningless.

    I am afraid that it IS the various clubs' attitude that drives this subject.............

    Finally, could I quote from the Club website ?

    "Cameras/Video cameras
    Cameras and video cameras are allowed to be brought into the Stadium but due to copyright laws they can not be used when players are on the pitch. This also includes the players warm up session."


    Clear and concise ..................
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    Just an update not sure if they have changed it for this season but for a premiership licence the 30 photos must have been in national press not regional

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    exactly!!! really messed my plans up.. I ahve about 60 published but nowhere near 30 in the nationals so cant apply for me prem like I thought I could... will easy get my league licence again but gonna have to change my plans for this season :(
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