Photography Monitor

I use a Samsung that I bought for around £230. From memory it's a 26 inch and it's brilliant. I'm sure others will say different, but I can't see the point of spending £600 on one. They seem to be out of date by the time you have unpacked them anyway.

Buy one for £200 and up grade it in a couple of years when new technology comes along.
 
I recently purchased an AOC Q2770Pqu 27" widescreen S-PLS LED monitor from Amazon for £350. Personally I think it's a great monitor. It's has a resolution of 2560x1440, whilst not 4k is still good and cheapish.


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Cobra said:
I've recently bought this under £160 and more than happy with it
http://www.amazon.co.uk/BenQ-GW2760HM-27-inch-Multimedia-Monitor/dp/B00AQBWNXA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1420565177&sr=8-2&keywords=benq 27
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TN panel... not a great screen.. I wouldn't recommend this for photography or any colour critical work. It's only 1920x1080 resolution too, and for such a large screen that's a pretty large pixel pitch.

jondc said:
I recently purchased an AOC Q2770Pqu 27" widescreen S-PLS LED monitor from Amazon for £350. Personally I think it's a great monitor. It's has a resolution of 2560x1440, whilst not 4k is still good and cheapish.


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This is an interesting one, as it uses Samsung's brilliant PLS panel.. No personal experience of this screen though, but for around the same money you can get the outstanding Dell U2713HM, so that would settle it for me.



Without a doubt, I'd get the Dell U2713H or U2713HM. The only difference is the U2713H can be hardware profiled with the X-rite 1i Display Pro, and the U2713HM cannot. That's not to say it can't be profiled.. just that you'd be calibrating your video card's output like most other monitors.

The U2713H is around £470 and the HM version is around the £399 mark.

Quote simply, this is as good as you're going to get for 27" 2560x1440 screens unless you are prepared to go quite a way over your £600 budget.


realspeed said:
I use a dell IPS screen and from this very good company

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/24-d...-dvi-vga-1920x1200-300cd-m2-2m1-8ms-4xusb-hub

Check out the reviews
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He said it MUST be 27"
 
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Yep used them a lot.. and the 24" version... utterly superb screens. Even the cheap U2412M is a brilliant little screen. I just bought one of those for my wife, and when profiled it's bloody brilliant for the price.

@snapsnap Seriously... if you have a budget of up to £600 then get the Dell U2713H (not HM) and get the X-Rite i1 Display Pro and use Dell's own software to profile it at hardware level and you'll have a display system that you'd need to pay around £1500 to even get close to... and you'd just be in your budget. If you don't want to blow it all, then get the U2713HM and the Color Munky Display calibrator, and you'll have change and still have an utterly superb screen set up.

There's no point in buying such a screen and not profiling it though.
 
Pookeyhead said:
TN panel... not a great screen.. I wouldn't recommend this for photography or any colour critical work. It's only 1920x1080 resolution too, and for such a large screen that's a pretty large pixel pitch. "
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As I'm not a professional TBH I don't care, it works for me and is miles better than the 19in 1280 x 1024 that it replaced. (y)
Actually I linked the wrong one its not a TN its a VA buut what ever :)
 
I used to use a Samsung with a TN panel for image processing, and found that getting consistency was nearly impossible: move your head or seating angle just a little and the image changes. My pre-retina Macbook is even worse.

IPS only for image development for me now.
 
snapsnap said:
Many Thanks all for the replies and really helped me out. I was looking at the dells online and think i will go for U2713H and i do already have the X-Rite i1 Display Pro so added bonus there :)

Big thanks again to all for taking time to post
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Just remember to use the Dell software to calibrate it. There's a link to the latest version, and hardware calibration instructions below.

See this page


https://photographylife.com/how-to-properly-calibrate-dell-u2413-u2713h-u3014-monitors


What that tutorial doesn't mention though, is to make sure you have connected the screen's USB ports to the PC and that you connect the X-Rite i1 Display Pro to the monitor's USB ports, not the PC's..

Calibrate CAL1 to Native for full gamut, and CAL2 to sRGB to emulate that. I do the same thing to this Eizo screen. It's good to have a sRGB emulation mod for watching TV, browsing non-colour managed sites etc.


Cobra said:
As I'm not a professional TBH I don't care, it works for me and is miles better than the 19in 1280 x 1024 that it replaced. (y)
Actually I linked the wrong one its not a TN its a VA buut what ever :)
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There have been a few versions of that screen. VA panels aren't bad at all actually, especially Samsung's S-PVA panels.. They actually have better blacks than IPS. They still suffer from colour and gamma shift at various angles. I do like VA panels though. I used to have a Eizo SX30331 before I got this screen and it was very nice.
 
Pookeyhead said:
There have been a few versions of that screen. VA panels aren't bad at all actually, especially Samsung's S-PVA panels.. They actually have better blacks than IPS. They still suffer from colour and gamma shift at various angles. I do like VA panels though. I used to have a Eizo SX30331 before I got this screen and it was very nice.
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I wonder if there really is a "perfect" panel though?
Everyone has their favourites I would imagine,
and some of it must come down to personal choice,
just like camera makes, for example.
 
There isn't, you need tn for 120 144hz , luckily my Samsung tn 120 hz are really good and have minimal shift for tn panels, and good colour.
If I was buying again and photo centric, id go ips va
 
Another vote for the UN2713H great screen for the price. I don't the HM is wide gamut either
 
pingu666 said:
There isn't, you need tn for 120 144hz ,
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You only really need that for gaming... especially 3D. With still images, refresh rate is pretty much unimportant. Most screens will be 60Hz, which is enough for any 2D still or video work. Even most 3D stuff.. you only need 120hz to maintain a 60fps frame rate. 3D cinema only required a 48Hz minimum refresh rate, so that's fine with 60Hz... only games really need 120Hz.

Cobra said:
I wonder if there really is a "perfect" panel though?
Everyone has their favourites I would imagine,
and some of it must come down to personal choice,
just like camera makes, for example.
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No.. IPS screens have poor black levels, particularly off-axis viewing. VA have gamma shift with viewing angle issues. TN are just rubbish for pretty much anything except casual use and gaming. We won't get close to perfection until hi-res, wide gamut OLED monitors become available... which might not be too long.

At present, Eizo's ColorEdge series and NEC's Reference series are about as good as you can get at the moment. There are better monitors still, but we're talking extremely specialist stuff costing upwards of £5K.
 
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Pookeyhead said:
No.. IPS screens have poor black levels, particularly off-axis viewing. VA have gamma shift with viewing angle issues. TN are just rubbish for pretty much anything except casual use and gaming. We won't get close to perfection until hi-res, wide gamut OLED monitors become available... which might not be too long.
At present, Eizo's ColorEdge series and NEC's Reference series are about as good as you can get at the moment. There are better monitors still, but we're talking extremely specialist stuff costing upwards of £5K.
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Thanks for taking the time to explain that (y)
and 5K+ ? ouch!
 
Cobra said:
Thanks for taking the time to explain that (y)
and 5K+ ? ouch!
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I know... I draw the line at £2k max, and most who don't appreciate professional imaging think I'm mad for doing that.
 
Gaming is one of my interests :), but 120 is slightly nicer in windows, but not a big deal
 
I have had a Dell U2713H and the X-rite 1i Display Pro for about 4 months and absolutely love the set up. Yes there are better monitors available but for the money the Dell Ultra Sharp takes some beating.

It's worth noting that Spyder calibration kits do not work with this monitor hence the X-rite but having now used both systems for monitor calibration I have found the X-rite to be excellent with a far more in depth group of settings.

Hope this helps.

Andy


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Update i have now got my new dell u2713h and have calibrated it with the xrite. However when i done all this it looks alot darker then my old monitor and not as punchy (if thats the right word). My old monitor had a glossy finish and glass front.

Do you think i have this right or do you also need to up the brightness on the monitor. I have calibrated twice in Native selected and both gave same results.

Also if you send of to print do you use the cal 1 which is native or do you use the profile you add into photoshop e.g from colour lab

Thanks
 
I'm assuming your previous monitor wasn't calibrated so it would probably be over saturated and too bright out of the the box, the profile from the colour lab is a printer profile not a display profile which you would use in Photoshop for soft-proofing your work
 
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Just a plug for Dell, and their 3-years warranty service.

I have two Dell monitors and the newest one, now two and a half years old, developed a fault - screen slightly magenta on the left. Bought from Amazon, I wasn't sure if it had Dell's free 3-years years warranty, but a call to Dell confirmed that it did. A very efficient lady (Indian call centre, makes a change) ran me through a few checks, asked me to email a photo, and phoned me straight back to confirm a replacement. It arrived next day by UPS, and then you use the box the replacement came in to return the faulty item, at Dell's cost (y)
 
snapsnap said:
Update i have now got my new dell u2713h and have calibrated it with the xrite. However when i done all this it looks alot darker then my old monitor and not as punchy (if thats the right word). My old monitor had a glossy finish and glass front.

Do you think i have this right or do you also need to up the brightness on the monitor. I have calibrated twice in Native selected and both gave same results.

Also if you send of to print do you use the cal 1 which is native or do you use the profile you add into photoshop e.g from colour lab

Thanks
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Chances are your old one was setup too bright and was basically showing porkies.

You need to send something that lab can know and understand. Typically it is either old crappy sRGB or adobeRGB. P.S. If you print on C-types don't be surprised if prints come out lacking in red and orange hues and are too dark. They are awful for certain colours and subjects. Inkjet is much more faithful.
 
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