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Because you either over react due to incompetent driving or you are too close to the vehicle in front causing hard uncontrolled breaking .... There is no excuse for blaming the vehicle in front! ..................... His fault 100%
Oh dear, take your blinkers off and talk to a few bikers first
Whatever happened to .... maintain a safe stopping distance from the vehicle in front ....
I didn't make any reference to the accident just about what loosing the front end meant. It could have been on a bend, loose surface, man hole cover etc that could cause the front end to go without it being incompetence or travelling too close.
What's an ALDI?
I did upset white van man when we had all that snow. Was going up a steepish
hill and the cars in front were sliding about (no gritters had been out) so i gave
them some space. This idiot in a van was right up my arse, i mean really close.
Eventually the Corsa in front starts slipping and losing grip, so i stopped behind
him, much to the annoyance of mr white van man. I figured he was annoyed by
the way he was leaning on his horn.
I politely waved, took a nice pic of him then carried on around the stuck cars
and up the hill. Had a wander round one of our reservoirs, took some lovely
pics and headed back. And yes, he was still where i'd left him along with most
of the other cars.......... Ahhh well.......... Here's the nice man btw...
I drive a van so i know what they're like in snow. Perhaps he just intended toThat is because vans have next to no traction on ice or snow, once stopped, they are usually stuck. Hence his annoyance at you.
Not judging anyone, merely offering an explanation.
This had been one of the most enjoyable to read threads in ages!
Just wanted to add my bit.....
I am a very calm person. Very patient, happy-go-lucky, like people, like meeting other people.
I have never had a fight, never needed or wanted to fight. Never hurt anybody either intentionally or other wise. I don't believe in violence, I'm rational, understanding, logical, sensible, friendly, kind, considerate.
All except when I'm driving
When I'm behind the wheel I turn into a complete animal. I scare myself. If somebody drives up my arse, I shout, scream, hurl abuse at them.
If somebody cuts me up, I do the same.
I am the most evil/nastiest driver I know. I really do have a prolem of some kind when I'm driving.
I hate, with avengance ALL van drivers, wether they annoy me or not. I go out of my way to annoy van drivers.
I've had such bad roadrage over the years, I've considered getting some kind of proffesional help (counselling, hypnotherapy etc) but sheer embarrasment has stopped me.
Since my little Ruby was born almost 3 years ago ( ) I have calmed down a bit. And when she is in the car I am Mr perfect.
But when she isn't, I turn into the devil again!!!
I have had a few run-ins with other drivers, the usual hand gestures, light flashing, horn beeping etc, but nothing major, thanks God.
Although there was the time some little muppet was riding his two wheeled hair dryer so close to my arse, I lost my rag and slammed the brakes on
The funniest thing I have EVER seen him smacking into my back bumper and landing with a satisfying CRUNCH on the deck! Then he got a load of abuse from the Mrs when we stopped next to him
But seriously, I have somehow been lucky and avoided conflict.
But the worrying thing is what goes through my mind during a roadrage incident.
I seriously consider doing nasty things to the other person if they stop, and I also consider slamming my car into theirs at the next opportunity.
Some knobend pulled right across into my lane on the motorway a few weeks ago. No indication, no warning nothing.
I was literally a few inches away from a nasty accident. Hand gestures from me, lights, horn etc, and he didn't even acknowledge me.
I was sooooooo godamm close to driving into him (on purpose) it scared me more than the thought of nearly having a bad crash.........
I drive a van so i know what they're like in snow. Perhaps he just intended to
use my car to stop in an emergency and thats why he was so close. There
were no non 4x4's made it to the top of that hill it was really bad, but maybe
he would have been the exception.
And if i'd gone tear-arsing past all the stuck cars i'd have been the k******d...
I dont see anything defensive with what i said, merely offered an explanation.Going on the defensive to a post that specifically states that I was not judging you, merely offering an explanation, shows a character flaw. Maybe that is why you got so annoyed by the other driver?
I've only ever had one problem, I upset a gentleman who was driving an old banger, beautifully polished with a big chrome silencer extension, lots of decals etc...
This gentleman was a little on the large side and was covered with tattoos, you know the type...
Anyway, I stopped at traffic lights and he came over to me, opened my door and was about to do something very unpleasant when he noticed that he was looking down the wrong end of my dry powder fire extinguisher, which as I was a taxi driver at the time I had clipped to the bulkhead by my right knee, nice and handy.
He decided he had nothing to say after all.
As you've said we don't know the roundabout your refering to, but unless the exit on said roundabout has 2 lanes, I'd fail to see why you elected to take the right hand lane unless you were turning right:shrug:. Personally I'd never take the righthand lane for fear of someone in the left running into the side of me, most people have shocking lane disipline(sp?) on roundabouts.
At fear of sounding hostile, to somebody who doesn't know the roundabout, the 'straight on' looks like a 'right' turn, as it is more than 12 o'clock over the roundabout.
Joking aside, I've witnessed more than my fair share of reckless driving over the years, and you've guessed it, the majority were "young" drivers,now I could probably be described as old enough to know better, but I'm young enough to remember what I was like when I was late teens, early twenties and the things I used to do then make me cringe. So what I'm trying to say is, yes, the older and more expeirienced you become, the more aware of your own mortality and you have more respect for other road users.
One of my best mates wrote off his car only 8 hours after passing his test. Want to know how? He was doing 120 mph down a local road, and was still doing 55mph when he hit the roundabout at the bottom of the road, and was probably doing 40mph when his car was spinning through the air, and I'm willing to bet at least 30mph when he was sliding down the road upside down into a wall.
I once came up behind a young lad in a Corsa, which had the mother of all bodykits on it Pram handle, flared arches, the works. And as we left a 40mph limit the road starts to go uphill and turns into a crawler lane, so I thought, young lad, he's spent all his money on tarting up the exterior of the car it'll just be a 1.2L engine under the bonnet, right up to the moment he dropped a gear(or switched on the nitros) disappered into the distance, and left me sitting in the overtaking lane looking like a right tit.
this so reminds me of a quite funny story , well funny now looking back on it nigh on 20 years ago...........
I had a summer job driving for a large construction company.......... visiting sites, collecting soil samples etc, and this road sounds a similar layout to the OP thread.........
Roundabout Lane 1 - left
Roundabout Lane 2 - straight, or right..........
and I don't know why, but it always USED to bug me when people would bomb down the left hand lane, and go straight on......... #(layout has since changed)
So I am in a bright yellow Defender with "psycho Jim" in the passenger seat - yes, thats what everyone called him..... Rep in his repmobile Cavalier SRi comes down the inside lane - no way was I going to yield and let him go... I was 17 - in "my" Defender and I was "King of the road." No two ways about it, rep was going to back off, or be parked in the allotments.........at the worst, a defender should win if it came to metal on metal.........
So he backed off, and then spent the next mile on my bumper lights flashing before pulling up on the inside at the next traffic lights, (we were turning right.) and brandishes a 8" adjustable spanner through the window..........(why did he have one of these? Was he a spanner rep? Certainly a spanner!) "You ####### ####, etc etc. I'll f###ing hell have you with this.........." to which Psycho Jim, leans back into the landrover, and reappears with a 3ft pair of bolt croppers.......... "Yeah come on then, mate....whenever" " i er.... err I don't want no trouble mate..." windows up, door locked! Bizarre 20 yrs on.....:shrug:
Sean........I was taking the pizz everyone knows that the overtaking lane is called the BMW lane, thankfully I drive a VW and I let bikers and boyracers pass me, I would rather have them up-front than behind me
What's an ALDI?
Light hearted banter towards drivers of specific vehicles is fine - but I detect more than this form some folk - proper hatred towards them. Not cool. Am I reading too much into this or maybe I am starting to get an insight into why I have had so many more people giving me me grief on the road now...
This had been one of the most enjoyable to read threads in ages!
Just wanted to add my bit.....
I am a very calm person. Very patient, happy-go-lucky, like people, like meeting other people.
I have never had a fight, never needed or wanted to fight. Never hurt anybody either intentionally or other wise. I don't believe in violence, I'm rational, understanding, logical, sensible, friendly, kind, considerate.
All except when I'm driving
When I'm behind the wheel I turn into a complete animal. I scare myself. If somebody drives up my arse, I shout, scream, hurl abuse at them.
If somebody cuts me up, I do the same.
I am the most evil/nastiest driver I know. I really do have a prolem of some kind when I'm driving.
I hate, with avengance ALL van drivers, wether they annoy me or not. I go out of my way to annoy van drivers.
I've had such bad roadrage over the years, I've considered getting some kind of proffesional help (counselling, hypnotherapy etc) but sheer embarrasment has stopped me.
Since my little Ruby was born almost 3 years ago ( ) I have calmed down a bit. And when she is in the car I am Mr perfect.
But when she isn't, I turn into the devil again!!!
I have had a few run-ins with other drivers, the usual hand gestures, light flashing, horn beeping etc, but nothing major, thanks God.
Although there was the time some little muppet was riding his two wheeled hair dryer so close to my arse, I lost my rag and slammed the brakes on
The funniest thing I have EVER seen him smacking into my back bumper and landing with a satisfying CRUNCH on the deck! Then he got a load of abuse from the Mrs when we stopped next to him
But seriously, I have somehow been lucky and avoided conflict.
But the worrying thing is what goes through my mind during a roadrage incident.
I seriously consider doing nasty things to the other person if they stop, and I also consider slamming my car into theirs at the next opportunity.
Some knobend pulled right across into my lane on the motorway a few weeks ago. No indication, no warning nothing.
I was literally a few inches away from a nasty accident. Hand gestures from me, lights, horn etc, and he didn't even acknowledge me.
I was sooooooo godamm close to driving into him (on purpose) it scared me more than the thought of nearly having a bad crash.........
I think i'm still going through one of those ...I went through a traumatic 'love' experience
I think i'm still going through one of those ...
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my missus was 8 months pregnant and crossing a pedestrian crossing. Guy in Focus tries to drive through her and honks his horn. He had his window open so I punched him in the face.
Not the longest story in the world