Single adults banned from falconry displays in case they're paedophiles...

Looks like no one at this park sits back and thinks before developing a policy and issuing statements -

They have a rule that refuses entry to single men and women but don't display this in their Rules of Admission. Instead it is near the end of their Pricing page. However, they will admit two men, two women, or a man and a woman, or groups of men or women, and either a man or a woman if they have a child with them, presumably because it is common knowledge that ALL paedophiles are single people.

They appear to link this policy to the fact that an ex-mayor who possessed indecent images of children visited the Park even though his crime had nothing to do with the park. Let us hope the ex-mayor never opened a local shopping centre, library, hospital.

In trying to clarify the position they issue a statement that includes, “We would rather be over zealous when unaccompanied adults visit us armed with cameras than put children at any potential risk”

They have now got to the real problem. It is single people with cameras that put children at risk. This should make catching paedophiles easy, they are single people with a camera. How much evidence is there that paedophiles photograph children in public places?

Seems the park have not heard the phrase, 'When you are in a hole, stop digging.'


But the sadness of it is that there will be people who think the park are doing the right thing and that it this helps to deal with paedophilia.

Dave
 
Tringa said:
But the sadness of it is that there will be people who think the park are doing the right thing and that it this helps to deal with paedophilia.
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Yep Retards as said previously.... same retards that publish their kids pictures over the internet via instagram, flickr, facebook etc etc .....
 
story aired on BBC breakfast and admitted that it seems to be a knee jerk reaction to sex scandal stories - Saville, Harris etc while admitting most cases of abuse are not as a result of strangers, but the victim knowing the abuser - such as the local priest

the sad thing is that it makes areas no go for single men (what about our equal rights including women getting their pensions at 60 as opposed to 65 for men) generates paranoia and does nothing to solve the problem

I note the phrase "armed with cameras" which is in itself inflammatory and as photographers we have the right in public places or those to which the public are admitted to take photographs. The winner of last year's Romsey show competition was a man and the winning pic was with a group of children with the quack pack

so should he be banned as well?

Also the case of the photogapher who was prevented from taking pictures of his local military parade by police under the proventioin of terrorism act. He subsequently received damages

Hope readers of this post realise how ridiculous the logic is behind this decision
 
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Last month, the BBC reported that there were supposed to be an estimated 50,000 paedophiles on the loose in Britain. What's the chances of at least one of them working at Puxton Park, eh!
 
KIPAX said:
To be honest i would have thrown you out as well.. its this sort of behaviour that give photogrpahers a bad name... You shouldnt just turn up and impose yourself.. somehting like that should have been organised in a dvance.. very poor form IMHO
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A good point. In "turning up and imposing myself" I was simply taking photographs with my DSLR, as lots of people are always doing there without any problems. That's why I thought I wouldn't be "imposing myself" or would need to make arrangements in advance.

My "mistake" was simply being male & alone. When I explained what I was doing, I would have quite happily accepted something along the lines of "Sorry, you should have arranged this in advance with the manager. Please put your camera away." That's what would probably have happened thirty years ago. What was startling was being approached very aggressively and treated with considerable hostility, obviously because I was under serious suspicion of being a pedophile. Or perhaps because making such a loud public fuss over me made a useful point?

In fact a pedophile would have probably taken the precaution of coming with a friend, and using an unobtrusive small camera or phone. But the management know that trying to stop people using phones or small cameras would annoy too many people and reduce their customers. But they need to reassure paranoid mothers that their children are being protected from the prying lenses of pedophiles. So they make a big fuss over solitary men with big cameras.
 
haven't read the whole thing, but I think the rule is reactionary and pretty poor tbh.

So yes, turn up with a friend!
but I love the phrase "ARMED WITH A CAMERA!"
it's worthy of the Daily Mail/Fail
 
Stuart M said:
Last month, the BBC reported that there were supposed to be an estimated 50,000 paedophiles on the loose in Britain.
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50,000/64,100,000 = 0.078% of the population. Seems a bit high to me.

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What's the chances of at least one of them working at Puxton Park, eh!
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If the park had one employee, it's a 1 in 1282 chance. 100 employees and it's a 1 in 128 chance. If you believe the 50,000 figure.


Steve.
 
If establishments are going to perpetuate these disgusting and thoroughly irrational policies, then surely it would be only fair and democratic to hold a few 'adults only' days, so there are no children in the vicinity waiting to be molested. Speaking personally (and for many of my friends, parents and otherwise) I would love that - a peaceful outing free from screaming unruly minors and their chavvy parents. But no - it's so much more politically correct to be prejudiced against single adults instead.
 
Surely the 64 million is the total population, and includes people too young to work or old enough to have retired? If there's "a lot more of it about" nowadays, I presume the paedophiles are under represented in the older age group. Therefore the odds are actually higher. This revision is of course as speculative as Puxton Park's assumptions.
 
My wife has single adult membership, so she can take our 3 year old.
Can't see why an adult would want to go without a child, it's a children's adventure park.
 
StephenM said:
Surely the 64 million is the total population, and includes people too young to work or old enough to have retired? If there's "a lot more of it about" nowadays, I presume the paedophiles are under represented in the older age group. Therefore the odds are actually higher. This revision is of course as speculative as Puxton Park's assumptions.
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so beware of "old gits" on there own in dirty raincoats bearing cameras with no film in them

There are really nice "nudist" beaches along the Atlantic coast in France, just pitch up, park your car and take the dog for a walk
 
Meno said:
My wife has single adult membership, so she can take our 3 year old.
Can't see why an adult would want to go without a child, it's a children's adventure park.
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I don't think that it is the fact that an adult would want to go, (I never take shots of birds in captivity, but that irrelevant),, it is the fact that the Park has banned single adults no matter what there intention is, almost treating/labelling them as possible pedophiles
 
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BillN_33 said:
I don't think that it is the fact that an adult would want to go, (I never take shots of birds in captivity, but that irrelevant),, it is the fact that the Park has banned single adults no matter what there intention is, almost treating/labelling them as possible pedophiles
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Surely there's no "almost" about it? That's exactly what they are doing - and with the approval (it seems) of most of their customers.
 
My god I hate to think what could happen if you were to be found carrying a packet of sweets in your pocket or Camera bag. :runaway:
What Ever Next.???
It probably won't be long before us old folk are band from buying sweets after all it's a child treat isn't it :thinking:

THIS COUNTRY HAS GONE MAD !!!
Help me please :naughty:
 
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Phiggys said:
My god I hate to think what could happen if you were to be found carrying a packet of sweets in your pocket or Camera bag. :runaway:
What Ever Next.???
It probably won't be long before us old folk are band from buying sweets after all it's a child treat isn't it :thinking:

THIS COUNTRY HAS GONE MAD !!!
Help me please :naughty:
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Don't say that, the last time I was alone in a bird hide with another "old git" he started eating a bag of wine gums ……… put me off my pickled onions
 
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Yv said:
Not sure if its been mentioned yet, skim reading, but they have disabled comments on their facebook page due to some being rude and abusive. :rolleyes:
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Surely it not the good folk of TP?
:D
 
Yv said:
Not sure if its been mentioned yet, skim reading, but they have disabled comments on their facebook page due to some being rude and abusive. :rolleyes:
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noticed that last night ... but you can still comment on their comments, lol!
 
So, I think I have just found a loophole in their admissions policy of no "Single" adults... Im Married - If I took my marriage certificate, do you think they would let me in? Im not "single"...
 
I must admit that this made me smile earlier,
and of course the fact that there are loads of pictures on their site, of kids ;)

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"An extra £5 for parent to sit and have a meal with Santa"
 
I don`t do facebook as such, anyone got a link to this stuff?
 
Thank you everyone for your feedback regarding our entrance policy. Please find the latest statement issued to the media this morning. We listen to our customers and would welcome all feedback.This is a family attraction and would ask all comments are made in the appropriate polite manner.

Alistair Mead Managing Director of Puxton Park, said: "The main aspect not being reported is that Puxton Park is predominantly an attraction for children aged 0 years to 7 years with 90% of the park dedicated fully to child’s play, which is not suitable for lone adults.
“Some adults may be interested in our falconry department and we offer falconry experience days which are open to all. We have not set out to discriminate against single adults but we take child protection extremely seriously.
“We would rather be over zealous when unaccompanied adults visit us armed with cameras than put children at any potential risk. Even schools follow similar policies with regards to the photography of children.
“Our members fully support our decisions and we have received nothing but praise for our policy including positive feedback from a Child Protection Specialist, who commended us for our child protection principals.
"Within seven years we have only had one complaint about this policy from the gentlemen last week.
"At the time of setting the policy the other parks within the area had a similar stance to us. I have spoken to two or three similar client based parks this morning and they still have the same policy as we do. I’m not going to name names as it’s unprofessional of me to do so.
"In light of this coverage we will look at what other parks are doing with their admissions policy, speak to our customers and review."
 
Tripadvisor are also knocking back reviews, i wouldn't say mine was that out of line than already published.

"Dear TripAdvisor Member,

Thank you for your review. We have opted not to publish your review as it does not meet our guidelines for traveler reviews. We have listed the guidelines below; you may also view them at: "
 
Sharky said:
Tripadvisor are also knocking back reviews, i wouldn't say mine was that out of line than already published.

"Dear TripAdvisor Member,

Thank you for your review. We have opted not to publish your review as it does not meet our guidelines for traveler reviews. We have listed the guidelines below; you may also view them at: "
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I thought I'd check out Tripadvisor and Ironically the main page with review for it has tonnes of pictures of Children.... !!! Doh :banghead:
 
Tintin124 said:
I thought I'd check out Tripadvisor and Ironically the main page with review for it has tonnes of pictures of Children.... !!! Doh :banghead:
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can you download them to your computer??
 
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It seems that Trip advisor are now taking down the comments perceived as negative - no doubt at the behest of Puxton Park. One reason given is that you must have visited the attraction in order to leave a review about the facilities - but if you can't get through the door in the first place, then surely your opinion is equally valid and prospective visitors deserved to be warned? This kind of hypocrisy makes my blood boil - the park can of course say and do whatever they wish as site holders, but they don't particularly like people having an opinion about it.
 
No doubt this one will be removed shortly:

" .....should they therefore ban all single male worker from the park as they are sometimes hands on with the children and before anyone states they will be police checked JIMMY SAVILLE would have had a clear police record before he passed away. Victimization is Victimization had he been refused because he was Foreign, black or disabled the park would be facing legal proceedings. A woman in a full Muslim dress with only her eyes showing can go anywhere as people cant refuse her as its her religion!! never mind if it could be a pervert male under the head dress. I was at a soft play with my young children and a young girl fell over and bumped her head several adults stood watching her cry in pain with blood coming down her head frightened to help her due to the idiotic behavior like this park has displayed. I helped the girl and her nanna was very grateful. Lets ban all driver in case they drink drive or ban all football supporters in case they are football hooligans the list is endless. idiotic."
 
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