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It could be worth asking around any local printers.
Cheers. I know a bit more now and a bit more confident going forward... thnaks
It could be worth asking around any local printers.
Good luck with your project. I am sure I am not alone in being excited to hear more about it as it progresses.Cheers. I know a bit more now and a bit more confident going forward... thnaks
set up a Kickstarter
Post away.I have just been on a 3rd photobook course and could post the list of printers. Some will give a quote instantly. Most offer paper samples. One only does paperbacks but getting a version don iin paperback before you commit to the cost of print would potentially be a very valuable step. There's also an excellent book which I am reading at the moment to enable both slef-publishers and those with a publisher and editor on board to make the best design decisions as you go along. I can post that too if there is any interest.
That one's a mystery. Did you mean Imprint? https://digital.imprint.co.uk/book-printing-services/hardback-book-printing/In Print
I've done pdf to book with Blurb - my preferred method - total freedom within their range of stock sizes, so I don't understand this comment.Blurb - expensive and inflexible [used through Lightroom] bearing in mind that we were working on creating our own PDFs via Affinity Publisher.
I think it applies to using Blurb directly through Lightroom. Using Blurb's own software there is more flexibility IIRCI've done pdf to book with Blurb - my preferred method - total freedom within their range of stock sizes, so I don't understand this comment.
Significantly. And it's much more user-friendly when you want layout flexibility. The Lightroom implementation (for me) feels like an add-on (a bit like the Map module). It's great for when I do my annual "contact sheet" book, as every page is exactly the same. But for something a bit more complex (when I made a book of my 52 for example) I use BookWright or whatever it's called. I do wish they would do something with the book module because being able to work from within Lightroom means you can work straight out of a collection and don't need to mess about exporting your collated images to a single place. You can also edit images to get a consistent look on-the-fly. However I suspect Blurb paid their money to Adobe for the implementation and that's the end of the development on it.Using Blurb's own software there is more flexibility IIRC
I use a fully-featured universal page layout app. Page layout is fun when you're completely in control. And soft-proofed cmyk images, but it's possible that you can send srgb ... All the layout parameters are freely available from Blurb to use in setup. Affinity would do the job. And for anyone wealthy enough to have InDesign they supply templates ...Using Blurb's own software there is more flexibility IIRC
I meant in comparison with making a template in Affinity Publisher.I've done pdf to book with Blurb - my preferred method - total freedom within their range of stock sizes, so I don't understand this comment.
... which you can do and have Blurb print the results. Let's make a level playing field ...I meant in comparison with making a template in Affinity Publisher.
Hold on...you make it sound like I have an agenda here. Well, Yes I did - to be helpful and if you. know something else fair enough but don't make out that I am trying to do anything other than share my experience which was from Lightroom. I only just found this thread and I think I might be done here.... which you can do and have Blurb print the results. Let's make a level playing field ...
We're a friendly bunch here, no need to go. I think droj is just in a funny mood today (and being unduly picky).Hold on...you make it sound like I have an agenda here. Well, Yes I did - to be helpful and if you. know something else fair enough but don't make out that I am trying to do anything other than share my experience which was from Lightroom. I only just found this thread and I think I might be done here.
I was sticking up for Blurb too because I don't think their software is rubbish. It's intuitive for beginner designers and flexible once you move away from the templates. For simple photobook purposes it's all you need.Hey! I felt that Blurb had been maligned. Of course their toytown layout app is rubbish, within or without Lightroom.
Print gives you print paper sizes, photo gives you photo aspect ratios. So best to select print and pick the format you want to the zine to be.Sorry if this sounds dumb, and may have been covered already (if so, apologies).
Just taking first stepd in Affinity Publisher.
When i open a new document, in making a photo zine, do I choose the 'Photo' option from the top line or 'Print' or does it not matter?
Well, I suppose I expected a 'by the way' comment rather than the insinuation that is was deliberately misleading or misinforming.Hey! I felt that Blurb had been maligned. Of course their toytown layout app is rubbish, within or without Lightroom. It's free, dammit, so what would you expect? And Lightroom's gut purpose is processing images, not making books or any other add-on gimmicks that Adobe think up as sidelines.
I felt that I needed to speak up for Blurb because as a print & bind service I've been pleased with their results (so far). And you can reap the reward of having done the preparation legwork for their product, just as you might for other providers.
Is Mixam cheaper for a similar size & binding? Dunno. The prep work & product, though, can have full equivalence with Blurb as far as I can see.
I have a reservation about the prevalent glued binding. If done at its best (as I've seen it), the glueline is far thicker than a cheap paperback, and looks strong - but I haven't found any longevity tests, & haven't had my books long enough to know.
The backstory is that I have a glut of stuff that could feed into photobooks but I'm terrible at making my mind up about anything - too many choices, maybe, and a first world problem as people say. But I'm looking (slowly & awkwardly) at options ...
I might seem a bit abrasive sometimes (it's a common form of cheerfulness in the grim north that I'm from) - but grumpy, never!
Come on, guys, we can get to Mars! But maybe not in the same rocket???
There's always the one-off (or extremely short run) photobook to consider.
ENCLOSURE (2022) is a collaborative project with the artist (and my partner) Shona Grant.
Between March 2020 and November 2021, I made photographs of the 30 or so mature trees that surround home in rural North East Aberdeenshire. We decided that a Japanese style book would suit the photographs and so we chose to make a stab bound book using hemp-leaf binding (asa-no-ha toji) with a traditional wraparound case known as maru chitsu. This is the first time that Shona’s made a book for another photographer and the first time that she’s made a Japanese stab bound book.
Details:
https://www.shonagrantsart.com/artistsphoto-books (all heavy lifting by Shona!)
- Handmade Japanese stab bound book with handmade wraparound case
- The book measures 240mm w x 250mm h and has two hard backs covered in hand painted in black acrylic on jaconette calico
- It is bound in ribbon using a hemp-leaf pattern with brass eyelet detail
- The first and final pages are hand painted in a mix of crimson and burnt sienna acrylics on jaconette calico
- There are 16 pages of photographs printed by me on Awagami 170gsm bamboo paper (this paper has been such a bind!)
- The pages measure 188mm w x 243mm h and the images measure 102mm w x 127mm h
- The book also features a three sheet gate fold section
- Each photographic print has a red hand painted jaconette calico sheet attached which was then bound to into the spine of the book
- The hard backed wraparound cover measures 255mm w x 257mm h and is covered in hand painted red jaconette calico with black book cloth lining. It features the traditional Japanese clasp made from handmade cut bone with handmade black book cloth attachments
- When open, the case measures 700mm w x 257mm
Video (please choose 720 or 1080 via the little cog wheel):View: https://vimeo.com/661731234
Sadly my photography just isn't good enough!
IME, yes, perfect binding doesn't like being opened out flat. Also 32 sides is pushing it a bit for that binding, it works better with more pages. IMO.Is this likely to be awkward to get to lay flat?
If you want to be able to open them out then stapled is the better option. When having them perfect bound I like to leave a wider margin along the gutter as the pages don't open as flat and the extra space presents them better.Thanks Dave - staple/sewn is better at this size?
A quick question - if I order a (say) 24 page zine, is that 48 *sides* that can receive a print plus any cover pages?
If you mean the PDF from Mixam, I've checked one of my zines which is full colour and the Mixam PDF for 66 pages and file size is 43mb.Gave up in the end & uploaded as a .pdf, but concerned the file size is about 1/10th what it should be (17MB instead od 170MB for 28 A4 images.