Superb Trevor, I can't get enough of these kind of two wheel images you shoot -- "Thank You"...!Back to my favourite Sunday morning subjects.
H2S with the 35mm f1.4
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The Mods are here !! by Trevor, on Flickr
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Triumph 3 by Trevor, on Flickr
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Commando Scrambler-2 by Trevor, on Flickr
Mate. Thanks. You’re welcome.Superb Trevor, I can't get enough of these kind of two wheel images you shoot -- "Thank You"...!
Best regards;
Pete
Had a skim through 2 seconds worth, vast majority are in focus.That looks good, how many of the 40 do you recon were keepers?
Had a skim through 2 seconds worth, vast majority are in focus.
Astonishing
If only I could do it Medium Format. One day...Careful, you might start running ouit of "photographer excuses"
If only I could do it Medium Format. One day...
When I shot at Oulton Park I switched off continuous shooting with the GFX and went single shot, old skool panning just like film, one shot per pan! In continuous shooting at max 3fps it was very difficult to get the pan angle you wanted to conincide withy the shutter release, as the car would just be in the wrong place!
Of course with an X-H2S with plenty of memory cards (and batteries) you could take 10's of thousands of shots in a day, but the thought of going through those afterwards gives me nightmares, but at least you'd know that most would be in focus!!
There is a touch and try day at my favourite store on Saturday, I think I should stay away.................
For the first time ever, I tried the X-T20 on continuous 8fps for a holiday visit to a French 'jouters' competition - think of medieval jousting using rowing boats instead of horses. That was last week and yesterday I spent all day whittling it down from 1500 shots to just enough to tell the story. Brain-sapping. And I've still got cropping, exposure and alignment to tweak.
Don't really want to do all that again, so I need to find a medium ground. The X-T20's slower fps was far more likely to miss the point-of-impact.
(And this was with boats at about 5mph; no idea how it's possible to shoot/manage so many shots with faster moving subjects!)
I don't think shallow DOF matters too much when panning tbh as the background is blurred anyway. Obviously if it's really shallow then the background blur may appear 'softer' but the only reason I try to keep aperture as wide as possible is to mask out the catch fencing as much as possible.When the X-T2 was launched I went to Oulton Park to try out the tracking, shot 900 shots in the first hour RAW+JPG (on a single battery!), the guy who I was with shot 1200 JPG in the same time. I culled my 900 down to 3, it wasn't that they were out of focus, they were just not what I wanted! I actually think, that pre-focus and single shot is probably the way to go! With motorsport and panning you are fixing the shutter speed, and with good light you often end up with quite a small aperture - F11/F16 so you actually have a good DOF so with careful pre-focus teh subject shoulod be in focus, if its not sharp its your panning technique. I'm going back in a weeks time (as long as its not pouring with rain) and I might try a ND filter to see if I can pan with a shallower depth of field - out of interest more than artistic merit!
When I shot at Oulton Park I switched off continuous shooting with the GFX and went single shot, old skool panning just like film, one shot per pan! In continuous shooting at max 3fps it was very difficult to get the pan angle you wanted to conincide with the shutter release, as the car would just be in the wrong place!
Of course with an X-H2S with plenty of memory cards (and batteries) you could take 10's of thousands of shots in a day, but the thought of going through those afterwards gives me nightmares, but at least you'd know that most would be in focus!!
There is a touch and try day at my favourite store on Saturday, I think I should stay away.................
I don't think shallow DOF matters too much when panning tbh as the background is blurred anyway. Obviously if it's really shallow then the background blur may appear 'softer' but the only reason I try to keep aperture as wide as possible is to mask out the catch fencing as much as possible.
I'm not sure I'd get anything in focus if I only did a one shot pan when at 1/10 etc, I rely on the high frame rate so that hopefully at least one of the burst shots will be sharp
Perhaps Adobe can come up with an app that checks for the "in focus" shots There'd be no pint in me having though, it would dump all my images
With a busy background, I found that focus would move (possible user error on my part). I'd love a mode where you could temporarily set front and back focus limits - useful for subjects that follow a track across the field of view.
Sometimes yeah. My go to for a high number of keepers is 1/50, 1/25 is pretty low and then 1/10 almost as rare as hen's teethDo you really Pan with that low a shutter speed? I struggle at 1/50th (at 1/125th I’m reasonable good - in my opinion!!)
Sometimes yeah. My go to for a high number of keepers is 1/50, 1/25 is pretty low and then 1/10 almost as rare as hen's teeth
Going to the Oulton Park Gold Cup next weekend, probably only on the Saturday), I'll try some at slower shutter speeds.
Yeah at Goodwood you got one chance so I was shooting between 1/100 - 1/200 a lot of the time to guarantee I got the shot. When at a circuit you have many laps to get a specific car so it doesn't matter if you miss on some of the laps I did shoot a few at FoS at 1/30 (Ferrari Dino 246s) and 1/50 (E30 M3)Thanks, having glanced at quite a lot of your FoS images on Flickr they mainly were at faster shutter speeds. But if you can get results at 1/10 and 1/30 then I need to practise more
Going to the Oulton Park Gold Cup next weekend, probably only on the Saturday), I'll try some at slower shutter speeds.
Few years since I went but there was fence free viewing on the inside of Druids, along the pit straight, Knickerbrook, and Cascades.I was thinking about this event but I haven't been to Oulton for donkeys years, any suggestions on trackside locations for shooting?
Few years since I went but there was fence free viewing on the inside of Druids, along the pit straight, Knickerbrook, and Cascades.
I was thinking about this event but I haven't been to Oulton for donkeys years, any suggestions on trackside locations for shooting?
I’d be there all the time if I lived that closeIts 4 miles from my house, most of the infield is fence free, you can get close to the action see here
https://www.talkphotography.co.uk/threads/digital-medium-format-thread.699936/post-9172559 and a further post a couple down.
If you going on the Saturday them PM me, @Snerlers suggestions are good, but I also like the inside of Lodge - it all depends on the focal length of your lenses as to where is best.
Reminds me of when i was shooting Superkies I was stood next to some chap at Silverstone MotoGP on one of the practice days and every bike that was coming past he was rattling of several shots and he said he usually took approx 8,000 - 10,000 shots a day, times that by 3 over the weekend. And that was 8 or 9 years ago when 6fps was the norm dread to think how many he would take these days.When the X-T2 was launched I went to Oulton Park to try out the tracking, shot 900 shots in the first hour RAW+JPG (on a single battery!), the guy who I was with shot 1200 JPG in the same time. I culled my 900 down to 3, it wasn't that they were out of focus, they were just not what I wanted! I actually think, that pre-focus and single shot is probably the way to go! With motorsport and panning you are fixing the shutter speed, and with good light you often end up with quite a small aperture - F11/F16 so you actually have a good DOF so with careful pre-focus teh subject shoulod be in focus, if its not sharp its your panning technique. I'm going back in a weeks time (as long as its not pouring with rain) and I might try a ND filter to see if I can pan with a shallower depth of field - out of interest more than artistic merit!
Thomas Heaton has a lot to answer for, as I am now looking into this too. Love the picture!Trying something a little different - I have an X-T1 sitting doing nothing and was considering converting it to infrared. Before I commit, I've borrowed an infrared converted Xpro1 for some testing. Lenses are finicky when using IR, and my usual 18-55mm is unsuitable. I pinched the XC 16-55mm from my girlfriends setup and while it's better for IR, it's pretty poor in general.
I'll be looking for an 18-135mm, since they're considered pretty good both in general, and for IR.
Either way, despite it's issues, I quite like this as a first result -
Infrared Test by jimmyjamjoejoe, on Flickr
Yes it’s a LOT of cash. Bloody super though.Would be tempted by the X-H2S but £2500 for a crop sensor is getting silly i think. Look forward to having one a few years down the line though.
Would be tempted by the X-H2S but £2500 for a crop sensor is getting silly i think. Look forward to having one a few years down the line though.
I went to an X-HS2 Touch and Try day yesterday,
Would be tempted by the X-H2S but £2500 for a crop sensor is getting silly i think. Look forward to having one a few years down the line though.
On a different theme, does anyone have a full 180° fisheye for their X series body? There are times when the 10-20 just isn't wide enough and the clipped off top and bottom of 8mm lenses on crop bodies really bugs me!
Camera and lens prices are getting silly across the board imo.Would be tempted by the X-H2S but £2500 for a crop sensor is getting silly i think. Look forward to having one a few years down the line though.
I could live with a contraption, as long as it'll fit in front of one of my lenses! 10-20, 18-55 (or 135) would be the likely contenders. Retaining AF (and, more importantly, AE!) would be a bonus.