The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

If I do not shoot for a living and am just a keen/enthusiast would I be loosing much if I went for a crop sensor?

Also somewhere on youtube I watched a video saying that any flash will work on the Sony camera's, is this correct?
 
saul01 said:
If I do not shoot for a living and am just a keen/enthusiast would I be loosing much if I went for a crop sensor?
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Never ending debate in my head.
Went Full Frame as I already have 2 APSC camera’s.

Pure GAS..
 
saul01 said:
If I do not shoot for a living and am just a keen/enthusiast would I be loosing much if I went for a crop sensor?

Also somewhere on youtube I watched a video saying that any flash will work on the Sony camera's, is this correct?
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The APSC cameras are smaller, cheaper, faster AF (than mk1 and mk2 A7), cheaper lenses...... less ISO performance but realistically still very good, more DOF. APSC has a lot going for it unless you want to spend big bucks on FF.

Not in TTL, mostly any flash can be used on any camera if its in manual.

What do you plan on photographing?
 
twist said:
The APSC cameras are smaller, cheaper, faster AF (than mk1 and mk2 A7), cheaper lenses...... less ISO performance but realistically still very good, more DOF. APSC has a lot going for it unless you want to spend big bucks on FF.

Not in TTL, mostly any flash can be used on any camera if its in manual.

What do you plan on photographing?
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As it's a strict budget, just looking best bang for buck really

If that's the case with the flash, will then need to factor a flash into the budget as well.

Mainly portraits, people, my kids...general stuff. Nothing "studio" worthy
 
In terms of lenses for a crop sensor, I should be able to pick up the Sony E PZ 18-105mm F4 G OSS Lens for around £400 (begging and grovling a favour) is this worth it?
 
saul01 said:
As it's a strict budget, just looking best bang for buck really

If that's the case with the flash, will then need to factor a flash into the budget as well.

Mainly portraits, people, my kids...general stuff. Nothing "studio" worthy
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I personally don't think 4K is mainstream enough yet to worry about when you are on a "tight" budget. Massive file sizes, increased memory costs, increased camera costs, bigger cameras.

If I were you and you want a Sony Id look at the A6000 kit with 16-50mm and a 50mm 1.8 OSS, also add a external flash gun which will come in well under 1k (to use up your budget you could buy the 18-105 & 50 instead or 16-50 / 50 1.8 and 55-210 zoom). You could switch out the A6000 with the A6300 but IMO its not worth the additional few hundred quids.

OR

A7 mk1 (£550 used mint), a 28-70 which is cheap on eBay (£140) and the FE50 1.8 (£180), thats your budget.

These should cover days out and portraits of the kids.
 
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saul01 said:
In terms of lenses for a crop sensor, I should be able to pick up the Sony E PZ 18-105mm F4 G OSS Lens for around £400 (begging and grovling a favour) is this worth it?
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Its a good lens, a crop lens, not FF, so A6000 series, not A7, unless you want to shoot it in crop mode.
 
saul01 said:
In terms of lenses for a crop sensor, I should be able to pick up the Sony E PZ 18-105mm F4 G OSS Lens for around £400 (begging and grovling a favour) is this worth it?
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It does depend on what you are aiming for, but for similar money you can get the 16-50 as part of the kit, and add the 55-210 and 50 f/1.8.
This gives you 16-210 (although not at f/4), as well as the 50 f/1.8 for low light or shallow DOF.

The difference between 16 and 18 at the wide end, and 105-210 at the long end, are both quite significant, as is the f/1.8 over f/4 on the 50.

The 18-105 is better quality than the 16-50 or 55-210, so there are pro's and con's to both options.
 
twist said:
I personally don't think 4K is mainstream enough yet to worry about when you are on a "tight" budget. Massive file sizes, increased memory costs, increased camera costs, bigger cameras.

If I were you and you want a Sony Id look at the A6000 kit with 16-50mm and a 50mm 1.8 OSS, also add a external flash gun which will come in well under 1k (to use up your budget you could buy the 18-105 & 50 instead or 16-50 / 50 1.8 and 55-210 zoom). You could switch out the A6000 with the A6300 but IMO its not worth the additional few hundred quids.

OR

A7 mk1 (£550 used mint), a 28-70 which is cheap on eBay (£140) and the FE50 1.8 (£180), thats your budget.

These should cover days out and portraits of the kids.
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Yep, I'd probably suggest the A6000 route unless he prefers the form factor of the a7. My NEX-7 was a great camera, which is an older model to the a6k range.
 
jonneymendoza said:
What about the fuji and olympus options?
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I have looked at the Fuji X-T20 with the 18-50mm kit lens. New, this is within budget and ticks all the boxes.

And not for a lot more over budget can also get the X-T2 again with 18-50mm kit lens.
 
Seeing from the above posts that all brands are spoken of Sony or Fuji?
 
Has anyone purchased anything from progadgetsuk on the bay?
 
twist said:
I personally don't think 4K is mainstream enough yet to worry about when you are on a "tight" budget. Massive file sizes, increased memory costs, increased camera costs, bigger cameras.

If I were you and you want a Sony Id look at the A6000 kit with 16-50mm and a 50mm 1.8 OSS, also add a external flash gun which will come in well under 1k (to use up your budget you could buy the 18-105 & 50 instead or 16-50 / 50 1.8 and 55-210 zoom). You could switch out the A6000 with the A6300 but IMO its not worth the additional few hundred quids.

OR

A7 mk1 (£550 used mint), a 28-70 which is cheap on eBay (£140) and the FE50 1.8 (£180), thats your budget.

These should cover days out and portraits of the kids.
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Thank you for these options.

I've also just found the A7ii with 28-70mm new for £1100. Can always buy the nifty at a later stage, hopefully a secondhand will crop up. BTW where did you see the A7 mint for £550?
 
I keep flipping wanting the Samyang 35/2.8 and then realising it will never be used once I get the 34/1.4....and then thinking I can justify it for using it on holiday....then realise I’ve taken my 5D with 35L on almost every trip.......

I got a problem.
 
saul01 said:
In terms of lenses for a crop sensor, I should be able to pick up the Sony E PZ 18-105mm F4 G OSS Lens for around £400 (begging and grovling a favour) is this worth it?
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saul01 said:
Seeing from the above posts that all brands are spoken of Sony or Fuji?
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May be you mentioned it before what do you photograph? The choice and suggestion of camera and lens(es) would depend on that...
 
Raymond Lin said:
I keep flipping wanting the Samyang 35/2.8 and then realising it will never be used once I get the 34/1.4....and then thinking I can justify it for using it on holiday....then realise I’ve taken my 5D with 35L on almost every trip.......

I got a problem.
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you should just get a voigtlander 40mm f1.2 and use MF :D
 
saul01 said:
Thank you for these options.

I've also just found the A7ii with 28-70mm new for £1100. Can always buy the nifty at a later stage, hopefully a secondhand will crop up. BTW where did you see the A7 mint for £550?
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No problem, they are all good options at different budgets.

If you want to stretch that's also an option but if you think about, the a7ii will set you back an additional 400 quid just for ibis.

The a7 mk1 is just ridiculously good value. Apsc money for a ff.
 
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saul01 said:
Thank you for these options.

I've also just found the A7ii with 28-70mm new for £1100. Can always buy the nifty at a later stage, hopefully a secondhand will crop up. BTW where did you see the A7 mint for £550?
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Take a look at wexphotovideo or lcegroup or ?? (or the classified here)
 
nandbytes said:
May be you mentioned it before what do you photograph?
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Mainly portraits, people, my kids...general stuff. Nothing "studio" worthy
 
Just for the record are there any other brand lenses that are compatible with Sony? obviously an adapter will be needed.
 
saul01 said:
Just for the record are there any other brand lenses that are compatible with Sony? obviously an adapter will be needed.
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yeah pretty much any non-mirrorless lens :D (of course with varying degree of compatibility in terms of AF depending on body/adapter/lens combination)

and with a sony body you can even get AF with manual lenses if you buy the latest techart pro adapter :D ;)

p.s. adapting could be cheap but could also end up being expensive
 
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Raymond Lin said:
I keep flipping wanting the Samyang 35/2.8 and then realising it will never be used once I get the 34/1.4....and then thinking I can justify it for using it on holiday....then realise I’ve taken my 5D with 35L on almost every trip.......

I got a problem.
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If it helps any, just think of all the time you'll save not having to correct the colour of the Samyang to match the rest of your lenses.
 
saul01 said:
Just for the record are there any other brand lenses that are compatible with Sony? obviously an adapter will be needed.
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If you are okay with manual focus which is easy with a Sony then there are hundreds from every brand via a 10 pound dumb adapter.
 
saul01 said:
Just for the record are there any other brand lenses that are compatible with Sony? obviously an adapter will be needed.
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There are also a variety of 3rd party lenses which fit Sony E Mount without an adaptor, both manual and AF, and APS-C and FF.

And the number of different 'native' lenses avaiaible is growing. :)
 
saul01 said:
Thank you for these options.

I've also just found the A7ii with 28-70mm new for £1100. Can always buy the nifty at a later stage, hopefully a secondhand will crop up. BTW where did you see the A7 mint for £550?
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The A7 + kit lens occasionally comes up at £619 on amazing brand new. Happened twice last year.

A7ii + kit lens brand new £1100 is the max you should pay. I got brand new from Park for £1000 in December.
 
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