Nikon Z* mirrorless

Hi Trevor
See manual focus, halfway down the page in the link below.
Thanks. I think I’ve realised that I need to not use single point when in AF and subject detect I’ll check it out later.
Manual Focus I’ve got that sussed.
 
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It mentions subject detect in mf.
Got that mate, I was unable to get subject detect in AF. sorted now, I've selected something other than single point,(obvious blonde moment)
 
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Got that mate, I was unable to get subject detect in AF. sorted now, I've selected something other than single point,(obvious blonde moment)
You also cannot use one of the dynamic modes; subject detection only works in WA, 3D, and Auto. Which you choose doesn't make a lot of difference unless subject detection fails to find anything.
 
Can't get enough dog shots Trevor !
 
Our eldest Charlie, looking thoughtful.

 
I’ve not had chance to get out with mine yet, but just round the back yard it seems made for m/f
That’s right. With the help provided by Ai subject detection it’s absolute voodoo. Great fun too.
 
Hi, OK I just moved over from Sony to Nikon and splashed out on the Z8, notice that Nikon batteries are like Sony as far as price goes so a little investigation showed up that a company called Small Rig sell batteries for the Z8 and seem to have good reports so before I buy an extra battery any advice on other makes like Small Rig? Many Thanks, Russ.
 
Hi, OK I just moved over from Sony to Nikon and splashed out on the Z8, notice that Nikon batteries are like Sony as far as price goes so a little investigation showed up that a company called Small Rig sell batteries for the Z8 and seem to have good reports so before I buy an extra battery any advice on other makes like Small Rig? Many Thanks, Russ.
Just be careful re compatibility. I have a Smallrig EN-EL15C ( great to be able to charge it direct) and whilst it works on the Z5, the Zf throws up an error that it’s not a genuine Nikon battery.
 
Hi, OK I just moved over from Sony to Nikon and splashed out on the Z8, notice that Nikon batteries are like Sony as far as price goes so a little investigation showed up that a company called Small Rig sell batteries for the Z8 and seem to have good reports so before I buy an extra battery any advice on other makes like Small Rig? Many Thanks, Russ.
Personally, I'd stick with genuine Nikon ones, you never know when a firmware will make 3rd party ones useless. The 3rd party ones seem very hit and miss for compatibility, the smallrig has a handy USB-C port, I use the Nikon MH-34 for on the go USB-C charging of genuine EN-EL15C batteries.
 
Terrific. Is this with Animal detect ?
Yes, subject detection set to Animal and 3D tracking mode. I was impressed it managed to pick her out through all the foliage.
 
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I've been increasingly feeling the Z8 was a mistake in an attempt to replace both a D750 and a Sony A9 as I've struggled to get results I'm happy with to the point I almost bought a D750, D810 or D850 to replace the broken D750 for a wedding I'd been asked to take photos at (before anyone says it, I had said no when asked but it was for a relative). Time ran out so I decided to gamble on the Z8 with the main issue still being the AF can struggle in low light without the AF assist from the flash but I'm really pleased with how the Z8 did. Having completely silent shooting was fantastic since it meant I could just rattle off many shots without anyone noticing making it easier to get good expressions and reactions on people that I wouldn't have done with the D750.

I'm also impressed with how the Z8 manages with the old F-mount lenses, I was mainly using the 24-70mm and it quickly and consistently locked onto people's eyes for me and I could easily flick between different people. The shot of Bertie running above doesn't show the speed he was doing but it was with the old 70-200mm on a fairly shallow depth of field and it tracked him perfectly.
 
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Hi, question that has probably been asked before but I ask it as a photo shooter not video at all.
Just purchased a Z8 and looking for recommendations for a CF card, I don't need anything above 128GB and was looking at the Lexar Professional Type B CFexpress and the SanDisk Extreme PRO CFexpress type B 64GB. Again this will be used for stills only.
Many Thanks for any Advice, Russ.

 
Hi, question that has probably been asked before but I ask it as a photo shooter not video at all.
Just purchased a Z8 and looking for recommendations for a CF card, I don't need anything above 128GB and was looking at the Lexar Professional Type B CFexpress and the SanDisk Extreme PRO CFexpress type B 64GB. Again this will be used for stills only.
Many Thanks for any Advice, Russ.

It depends on what you shoot. If sports/wildlife in lengthy bursts in loseless RAW then the buffer can fill quickly. Doing this can also heat the card. So a minimum sustained write speed of 1400MB/s is recommended.
For normal use then really any decent CFexpress card will work fine. Using HE* or HE reduces file size and can negate any of the above problems.
Also remember that if using the second SD card slot as backup, the camera will slow to the speed of that card.
 
It depends on what you shoot. If sports/wildlife in lengthy bursts in loseless RAW then the buffer can fill quickly. Doing this can also heat the card. So a minimum sustained write speed of 1400MB/s is recommended.
For normal use then really any decent CFexpress card will work fine. Using HE* or HE reduces file size and can negate any of the above problems.
Also remember that if using the second SD card slot as backup, the camera will slow to the speed of that card.
It really is ridiculous that these companies tout high speed / professional tool blah blah then restrict the performance of the back up slot, if it truly is a professional tool then make both slots the same......rant over.
 
It really is ridiculous that these companies tout high speed / professional tool blah blah then restrict the performance of the back up slot, if it truly is a professional tool then make both slots the same......rant over.
It does hinder it, but if you don't want the expense of buying 1 or even 2 CFexpress cards or require it's speed, the SD card is a cheap and widely available format.
I use the SD as overflow, so I still get full speed until the CFexpress card is filled. It's better than no second slot. The Z9 has two CFexpress slots.
 
It does hinder it, but if you don't want the expense of buying 1 or even 2 CFexpress cards or require it's speed, the SD card is a cheap and widely available format.
I use the SD as overflow, so I still get full speed until the CFexpress card is filled. It's better than no second slot. The Z9 has two CFexpress slots.
Hi, I do have a Lexar 2000x 64GB and Sony TOUGH 32GB v90 to use in the 2nd slot as additional. Thank You, Russ.
 
Don't know if this helps, but in my Z8, I've assigned Raw+JPG to the CFExpress card only and movies to the SD card in which i have a couple of 256GB Prograde V90 SDXC cards. As I don't shoot movies in Raw (just H265 10 bit), the SD card is plenty fast enough for write speeds. Thus when I'm shooting images, it's not trying to write to the slower SD card. Yes it's a gamble not having s backup, but CFExpress cards seem to be mega reliable (cursed it now), with very few failures reported.

For the CFExpress cards, I have 4 of the following Angelbird cards - the oldest of which I've had for over a year with no issues whatsoever (in fact I've still got 6 Sony 120GB XQD cards - never had a failure and still use them from time to time and still work just fine). The Angelbird cards have a guaranteed minimum write speed of over 800Mb/Sec so are plenty fast enough on my Z8 or Z9 and I've experienced zero hitting of the buffers (but to be fair I don't take for hundreds of captures per burst), and I've never had any overheating issues. Best of all, these cards are now an absolute bargain ar £120.49 for a 512GB card


What I don't get is that CFExpress cards are now ridiculously cheap (like I say £120 for 512GB), but SDXC cards are double sometimes 3 times the price for less capacity. At the moment the aforementioned Prograde SD card on Amazon is £256.99 for only 256gb and a whopping £474.99 for a 512gb card. The Sony tough ones are even more expensive. It seems that all high quality V90 cards are very expensive at the moment and I'm not sure why ?
 
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It really is ridiculous that these companies tout high speed / professional tool blah blah then restrict the performance of the back up slot, if it truly is a professional tool then make both slots the same......rant over.
It's not really the speed of the second slot that slows things down; it happens on my Z9 even with the fastest CF cards in both slots.

In backup mode a file is not cleared from the buffer until it has been written to both slots, the additional write time slows things down. If you have it write anything other than raw to both slots that also slows it down some more, as it adds additional processing time for the file. Raw to both slots is fastest, next is raw plus jpeg basic (the embedded jpeg), and the slowest is having it write the highest quality/largest jpeg.

Also note that there is zero reason not to use HE/HE*, other than thumbnails don't show on a Mac.
 
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It's not really the speed of the second slot that slows things down; it happens on my Z9 even with the fastest CF cards in both slots.

In backup mode a file is not cleared from the buffer until it has been written to both slots, the additional write time slows things down. If you have it write anything other than raw to both slots that also slows it down some more, as it adds additional processing time for the file. Raw to both slots is fastest, next is raw plus jpeg basic (the embedded jpeg), and the slowest is having it write the highest quality/largest jpeg.

Also note that there is zero reason not to use HE/HE*, other than thumbnails don't show on a Mac.
Yes but it would cost very little to make both slots the same speed, they only restrict / hold back features to be able claim that the next generation is better, the tech exists, a better faster processor wouldn't cost anymore to produce. It's a deliberate act to force us down an "upgrade" path. I bet if Apple wanted to they could produce a camera that would wipe the floor with all camera manufacturers, of course they play the same game with their products but are usually several steps ahead of the competition.
 
z8; where’s the best place to buy from?

Wife has shown an interest in photography again and it’s a great excuse to get one to go with the Z9s (special man maths at work).
 
Yes but it would cost very little to make both slots the same speed, they only restrict / hold back features to be able claim that the next generation is better, the tech exists, a better faster processor wouldn't cost anymore to produce. It's a deliberate act to force us down an "upgrade" path. I bet if Apple wanted to they could produce a camera that would wipe the floor with all camera manufacturers, of course they play the same game with their products but are usually several steps ahead of the competition.
IDTS, both slots in the Z9 and the single digit DSLRS are the same. And the SD slots are as fast as available at the time of development. There are reasons why one would prefer to have a slower SD slot; I use that as primary with my D850... ever see a computer with a built in CFE card reader?
 
IDTS, both slots in the Z9 and the single digit DSLRS are the same. And the SD slots are as fast as available at the time of development. There are reasons why one would prefer to have a slower SD slot; I use that as primary with my D850... ever see a computer with a built in CFE card reader?
Won't happen because CFE won't last long enough, something will supercede it in the near future, always feels like a stop gap solution to me. I also transfer pretty much everything either wireless or via USB C these days.
 
z8; where’s the best place to buy from?

Wife has shown an interest in photography again and it’s a great excuse to get one to go with the Z9s (special man maths at work).
Panamoz.
 
+2 for Panamoz - it's where both my Z8 and Z9 came from. Z8 in the UK at the time (a few months ago) was £3,999 and from Panamoz it was £3,020 (nearly a grand or 25% cheaper). It was just too good to pass on. At todays price the Z8 on Panamoz is even lower at £2,790 - an absolute steal !
 
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IDTS, both slots in the Z9 and the single digit DSLRS are the same. And the SD slots are as fast as available at the time of development. There are reasons why one would prefer to have a slower SD slot; I use that as primary with my D850... ever see a computer with a built in CFE card reader?
That's the main reason I use the SD card slot on the Z8 because I don't need anything faster most of the time and it's more convenient to read SD cards.

On this topic, I've picked up a CFExpress card to have ready in case I need to do a lot of fast shooting. Is there a cheap CFExpress reader that's worth a look or is it viable to use the camera itself over USB?
 
That's the main reason I use the SD card slot on the Z8 because I don't need anything faster most of the time and it's more convenient to read SD cards.

On this topic, I've picked up a CFExpress card to have ready in case I need to do a lot of fast shooting. Is there a cheap CFExpress reader that's worth a look or is it viable to use the camera itself over USB?
Not even got the camera yet but got a cfexpress card so bought https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0982XBWCQ?ref=ppx_pt2_dt_b_prod_image
 
Got to laugh, on a number of other Photography forums people are actually moaning about the V5 firmware and complaining that the Z9 is garbage as it doesn't have all the features the lesser Z8 has (i.e. pixel shift), or that Nikon still hasn't implemented Raw capture in the pre-capture modes etc. (which no Nikon camera has yet).

To be honest, the pixel shift feature doesn't interest me one bit, and I very much doubt Nikon think the Z9 is the camera of choice that people will use for this type of photography (landscape and architecture photographers would most likely be carrying the smaller Z8 size camera than the larger Z9). I have it on my Z8 (with firmware 2.0) but never tried it as
a) you need a very steady tripod (and it's been years since I carried a tripod).
b) from all accounts even the slightest movement can ruin the shot (more so than say on Olympus with it's high res shot mode due to the smaller sensor).
c) personally I have no need for nearly 180mp images and the file sizes that represents. Of course I understand other people's requirements will be different.

Now if Nikon could implement a system like Olympus and Panasonic on their Micro four thirds cameras where you have a choice of either tripod mode (for the biggest resolution jump) but also a hand held version for say a 100mp image without have to lug around a tripod and having the "merge" done in camera rather than having to combine the images in external software, that would be worth having. However, I expect the reason we haven't yet seen that on a FF camera is due to the large sensor size and the challenges that represents ?

In fact (shock horror), if Nikon could magically becomes the FF equivalent of Olympus and add in their version of Olympus's Hand Held High Res, Live ND, Live Time, Live Composite, Live GND and Raw in pre capture mode, and an IBIS system capable of 7-8 stops, then I honestly think I would sell off all my Olympus Micro four thirds equipment and go 100% Nikon Z. If I'm being honest, whilst I don't use all those aforementioned features all the time, I use many of them enough on my Olympus cameras to still keep them.

We are a fickle bunch aren't we :D
 
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Got to laugh, on a number of other Photography forums people are actually moaning about the V5 firmware and complaining that the Z9 is garbage as it doesn't have all the features the lesser Z8 has (i.e. pixel shift), or that Nikon still hasn't implemented Raw capture in the pre-capture modes etc. (which no Nikon camera has yet).

To be honest, the pixel shift feature doesn't interest me one bit, and I very much doubt Nikon think the Z9 is the camera of choice that people will use for this type of photography (landscape and architecture photographers would most likely be carrying the smaller Z8 size camera than the larger Z9). I have it on my Z8 (with firmware 2.0) but never tried it as
a) you need a very steady tripod (and it's been years since I carried a tripod).
b) from all accounts even the slightest movement can ruin the shot (more so than say on Olympus with it's high res shot mode due to the smaller sensor).
c) personally I have no need for nearly 180mp images and the file sizes that represents. Of course I understand other people's requirements will be different.

Now if Nikon could implement a system like Olympus and Panasonic on their Micro four thirds cameras where you have a choice of either tripod mode (for the biggest resolution jump) but also a hand held version for say a 100mp image without have to lug around a tripod and having the "merge" done in camera rather than having to combine the images in external software, that would be worth having. However, I expect the reason we haven't yet seen that on a FF camera is due to the large sensor size and the challenges that represents ?

In fact (shock horror), if Nikon could magically becomes the FF equivalent of Olympus and add in their version of Olympus's Hand Held High Res, Live ND, Live Time, Live Composite, Live GND and Raw in pre capture mode, and an IBIS system capable of 7-8 stops, then I honestly think I would sell off all my Olympus Micro four thirds equipment and go 100% Nikon Z. If I'm being honest, whilst I don't use all those aforementioned features all the time, I use many of them enough on my Olympus cameras to still keep them.

We are a fickle bunch aren't we :D
The Zf claims 8 stop IBIS, but I've not had chance to try it yet. In fact, I've not even been out with thr damn thing since I bought it. :rolleyes:
 
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