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What lens would be comparible to 30x zoom on a compact?
I was asking what lens on a DSLR would be the equivelent to a 30x zoom lens on a compact but your answer makes sence thanks.
I was walking along the prom the other day with my 400mm f5.6 trying for flight shots of seagulls. Non photographers always think you're going to be able to see the colour of a gnat's eye 8 miles away across the bay.
A chap came up and said "B***** H*** what's the zoom on that"? I was about to say "it isn't a zoom, it's a prime" when I realized that really wasn't the question he was asking. After a quick calculation I said, "It's about 8X". He was quite satisfied.
Until that point I had honestly never really thought about what the magnification would be of my lenses.

technically a prime is 0x![]()

Why do you need something so extreme? As a photographer of some 34 years experience, I remember my tutor telling us to invest in a good pair of shoes rather than an expensive long lens ie walk closer to your subject!

I think the answer is that the term "zoom" is fundamentally different between compact/bridge and DSLRs.
Zoom on a non-DSLR is (IMO) a marketing tool to make it stand out from the rest, it's "effective zoom" due to the tiny sensor and the how good the IQ is at maximum zoom isn't taken into consideration.
In the DSLR World zoom isn't as relevant as a photographer will pick lenses that have a focal length or range that suits their style of photography.
For instance a sports photographer will use a 70-200 with x1.4/x2 converters or maybe a two bodies with different telephoto primes.
Who's that aimed at?
I agree to a point but there's a limit to how close you can get to wildlife, a cricket ball or 18st Rugby players![]()
Yes, I want a closer shot of that Sea Eagle, I'll just walk on water shall I?technically a prime is 0x![]()
"Zoom" on a compact has never referred to magnification. I'm forever explaining this on non-togging forums.
A x4 zoom could be 10-40mm, or 20-80mm or 1200x4800mm. On a compact it's purely used to describe the relationship between the ends of the focal length. It's one of the reasons it cause so much confusion. "Zoom" and "megapixels" fall into the "higher the better" school of marketing, when most people that are in the know would be a lot more conservative about which were the numbers to aim for.
A prime would be a x1 zoom using "compact speak".. no matter what magnification it was. It couldn't be zero, and if it was less than 1 it would be shorter at the long end than it was at the short end, and longer at the short end than it was at the long end. In other words, it would be up it's own aperture.
The highest "zoom" DSLR lenses I can think of are the Sigma 18-250 (x13.9 zoom), followed by the Canon 18-200 (x11.1), 28-300 (x10.7), and the Sigma 50-500 (x10). Anyone know of one higher?
I disagree. A zoom lens is one which a variable focal length, so can zoom into a subject. I agree with you in that the "30x" multiplication is marketing speak to help people who have no photographical knowledge understand that 200mm is a bigger magnification than 100mm.
And IQ is not taken into account in any lens length, regardless of whether it is on a compact or a DSLR.
IQ at long distances is always debatable, both on DSLR's and also on compacts or bridges. With regards to sensor size, there will always be a debate, but remembering that most DSLR's do not have a full frame sensor, does that make them inferior camera's? There are arguments for both sides.
And just because a Zoom lens is not appropriate for you, does not mean that it is not appropriate for other DSLR users, otherwise the DSLR world would be based on primes and primes alone.
I'm not picking a fight, but your answer does come across as a bit DSLR snobbish to me.

For example, if you were going out to buy a bridge/compact and you had 2 cameras for about the same money with identical MP (obviously more means better)

"Zoom" on a compact has never referred to magnification. I'm forever explaining this on non-togging forums.
A x4 zoom could be 10-40mm, or 20-80mm or 1200x4800mm. On a compact it's purely used to describe the relationship between the ends of the focal length. It's one of the reasons it cause so much confusion. "Zoom" and "megapixels" fall into the "higher the better" school of marketing, when most people that are in the know would be a lot more conservative about which were the numbers to aim for.
A prime would be a x1 zoom using "compact speak".. no matter what magnification it was. It couldn't be zero, and if it was less than 1 it would be shorter at the long end than it was at the short end, and longer at the short end than it was at the long end. In other words, it would be up it's own aperture.
The highest "zoom" DSLR lenses I can think of are the Sigma 18-250 (x13.9 zoom), followed by the Canon 18-200 (x11.1), 28-300 (x10.7), and the Sigma 50-500 (x10). Anyone know of one higher?
"Zoom" on a compact has never referred to magnification. I'm forever explaining this on non-togging forums.
The highest "zoom" DSLR lenses I can think of are the Sigma 18-250 (x13.9 zoom), followed by the Canon 18-200 (x11.1), 28-300 (x10.7), and the Sigma 50-500 (x10). Anyone know of one higher?