Well it's effective at the shorter end (55mm) for portrait shots, and at the 200mm (zoom) end for things like some tame wildlife.
Is that what you meant?
it will do, but not life size (1:1 ratio). It probably wouldn't produce sharp macro shots either, since it doesn't specialise in close ups.
If you want to zoom in to landmarks like castles from a distance, it will also do that effectively at 200mm..
Have you held any of the bodies? If so, which one felt the best? Canon and Nikon are the two market leaders. Don't forget you're buying into a system, so with these big two, there's a huge lens range..
I have heard really good things about the 450D, also about the D60.
Looking at the specs of each, I personally would go for the 450D, provided that the camera felt right in the hand. At the end of the day mate, it's you that'll be using it..
Thats all I or anyone else can advise, to be as helpful and honest as possible..
Hope this helps
Mark
Personally I find the 18-55mm kit lens far more useful than my 55-200mm. The 18-55 takes really good landscapes at the lower end and nice portraits, photos of flowers, and I have also used the 55mm end for scenery with good effect.
Although the 55-200 zooms in more, with the 10 mega pixels of the D60 or 40X you can always crop the shot in imaging software to get a zoomed in view.
As you are just starting up in DSLR photography I would be inclined to go for either the D60 or D40X with 18-55 kit lens, according to your budget. They are both nice cameras.
Maybe someone on here will clarify this....does the D40x have a built in AF motor?
Cheers, Mark
Yep...I am particully interested in the D60, but also the D40x takes my attention because my friend owns one and highly reccomends it...I have held the D60 today and think its a really comfy fit..and very easy to hold.
Have you done much macro images with your kit lens?
Sorry what camera do you own?
Thanks,dave0493
Another thought is that if one has better specs but doesn't handle as well, you can always invest in a battery grip. I did this with my 40D and it feels a lot more substantial in the hand.
I don't think these days there is a bad DSLR. As I said, both Canon and Nikon have a vast range of lenses that they're adding to all the time, accessories like grips are plentiful and good deals can be had if you shop around.
A guy I know through a photographic supplier is a Nikon user and he doesn't rate the D60 much at all. It's perfectly acceptable performance wise but wasn't cutting edge, so perhaps thats another thing to think about.
Maybe someone on here will clarify this....does the D40x have a built in AF motor?
Cheers, Mark
I really think i might just go for the D60 as i preffer the look and love how it handles.
Ahhhh i dont have enough of a budget to do that
I really think i might just go for the D60 as i preffer the look and love how it handles.
so ye
Thanks for everything
I have a Nikon D40X and a Nikon D80.
I took this photo a couple of days ago with the 18-55 kit lens on my D40X.
If you look on my flickr site, close ups section you will find quite a few pictures that I have taken with the D40X.
You will not get proper macro images 1:1 with the kit lens, but you can get reasonable close ups.
The D40X and the D60 do not have a built in autofocus focus in camera, so to get autofocus you need to have lens with a built in motor. The 18-55, and the 55-200 both have this, but most macro lens will not autofocus with the D40X or D60. This sounds as if it is a problem, but in reality when taking macro photos you need to use manual focus anyway.
I bought the D40 second hand I still have it its a great camera but as was mentiond you are limited to lenses as the auto focus motor is built into the lens not the camera. You can pick up a d80 at reasonable prices now( as I did ) which I would recomend because as you get used to the camera you will outgrow it and end up spending more money.
Dont get me wrong the D40 D40x and D60 are fantastic cameras but......if you look ahead you will save yourself a bit of money plus have the option of buying lenses that are not afs so not so limited the non afs lenses work fine just you have to manually focus the lenses I would say to get as a starter is the standard kit and the Sima 70/300 Apo well reasonably priced but make sure if you do it is the APO version as the lens is sharper than its predesessor
So D80 go on you know you want to lol
Stef
hahaha...i know i do
but am really not sure whether i can afford it..
what will be anymore bad points if i was to go for D60 or 40
Thanks.dave0493
Theres not really anymore bad points are far as im concerned im sure you will be pleased with you purchase I bought my d80 from another forum, I still use both cameras probably as much as each other strange as that may seem as for macro you can buy a set of Kenko extension tubes to give you that extra macro dont bother with the cheap sets they sell on ebay for around a tenner as there is no circuitry in them so you settings cant be read by the camera
with the d40x and d60 they are 10 megapixel where as the d40 is only 6, I say only six but really unless your printing out mega large prints its not going to effect you in the least Buy second hand and upgrade would be my advice then you will have a few lenses to start plus you can get great deals on bodies alone
Stef
They fit inbetween the lens and the body and increase the magification of the lens im sure I saw a picture of a hornet or wasp maybe a fly on here that someone took with a 50 mm prime lens and extension tubes
Just found it see link
http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=73982&highlight=kenko
Heres a link to the tubes on there you will find a good desciption of what they do
http://www.onestop-digital.com/catalog/product_info.php?language=en¤cy=GBP&products_id=227
I have the tubes also the 105 sigma macro lens great bit of kit
hope that helps
Stef
Ok
that did help quite alot...but still going a little expensive side
but worth thinking about possibly after i get the camera
the tubes
do they just work without any other pieces of equipment apart from standard 18-55 lens.