Just looked at Andysnap's pics of various birds and I love them. I am assuming he used his 70-300VR which is a lens I am saving hard to get (not easy on a pension), however, my local dealer has a used Nikon D80 for sale and I dont know whether to trade in my D50, but then I still woudn't have a 70-300. Puddleduck says go for the lens every time and he knows what he is talking about, but I wondered what anyone else thinks, ( it's only opinions based on experience I'm looking for , I dont expect anyone to tell me what to do)