Canon 40D to 7D... anyone done it yet?

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Hi ya.

I've read about 400 and 450 users moving to the 7D and how great the leap was/is.. but has anyone made the move from a 40D to the 7D, and what would you make of the move.

Quite interested in the 7D and keen(ish) to jump soon as I have heard that there are going to be some price hikes because of availability and exchange rates (again).

Cheers
 
Do it, you wont regret it! :thumbs:
 
wow - that was quick. Thanks for that, and yes thats what everyone says.. but why? I don't just want a 7D because its the new baby on the block. Specs look impressive but do they make the difference they (Canon) state?
 
The keepers for flying birds have increased in my case due to the better AF and the extra resolution certainly helps for cropping.

And the video is an added bonus as well as the weather proofing.
Without mentioning the flash wireless trigger (oops, I did mention it).

So yes, go for it if you can afford it, you will be getting the best (in my opinion) cropper in the market :)
 
Boney Boy said:
Hi ya.

I've read about 400 and 450 users moving to the 7D and how great the leap was/is.. but has anyone made the move from a 40D to the 7D, and what would you make of the move.

Quite interested in the 7D and keen(ish) to jump soon as I have heard that there are going to be some price hikes because of availability and exchange rates (again).

Cheers
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I'll try a little Derren Brown Methodology here... "what do think its going to give you that you don't have now?" That way as a 7D owner I'll tell you if youre gonna get it...
 
Depending on what you shoot a used 5D/5D2 could be a better option ?

Stick this in google to see similar posts on TP

site:talkphotography.co.uk 40D 7D
 
It really depends what subects you shoot and if you need the reach which the extra pixels and the cropping advantage give you. I went from a 40D to a 50D and saw a massive improvement in effective reach of my lenses due to the unheard of 50% pixels increase over the 40D. The 7D adds yet another 3 million pixels, so if you need the reach you're going to see a tremendous improvement there alone.

Add weather sealing, better AF, micro AF lens adjustment, 10fps continous shooting, dual Digic 4 processors, built in level, 51 mb TIFF files which can go straight to image libraries, in-camera multi flash control and a thoughtful layout which aids handling, and you're getting a lot for your money if you need what it has to offer.

Canon have stated the 7D is squarely aimed at wildlife and sports shooters, so you need to decide if it's for you.
 
I'm going to jump from 40D to 7D soon, and TBH I'm not in any hurry as I think the price still has a little way to fall, as it always does after launch.

Its higher image quality I'm after, which is a combination of pixel count and better high ISO. I've compared the two quite closely. I can make bigger prints, or crop harder, and with the better ISO and improved AF, I should be able to use shake-free shutter speeds and really nail the focus to make the most of those 18mp. I think the improved high ISO performance, and the approx one stop higher shutter speeds it allows, is essential to realising that level of sharpness.

There's loads of other detail improvements over the 40D which add up. I particularly like the high-res screen. Viewfinder, on-board master flash, weather-proofing, frame rate - lots of 'nice' things which make the camera a pleasure to use. Some of which might even be useful :)
 
I had a play with a friends 7D last week and I must say it looks very impressive.

BUT I have decided to go for better glass for my 40D, first to go is going to be my 70-300 4-5.6 IS USM and in it's place a 70-200 f4L IS and 1.4 convertor.

I only hope I don't end up sending it off to Canon to get it calibrated as for me the 50D / 7D micro adjust feature looks very tempting.

Video I'm not to bothered about, but nice rear screen / image preview, and bigger viewfinder were nice but not deal breakers for me.

I think I will wait it out, see what the price does. I mean what are Canon going to do for an encore now?? Image quality wise I guess they are going to hit a brick wall eventually on that size sensor.

So when the 8D comes out with built in Geo tagging and WiFi connectivity the 7D will be a bargain, just like the 40D was when the 50D came out.

Until then I'll just keep taking lovely sharp photos on my 40D - I have some A2 prints framed on the wall at home at the moment and they are fantastic, I don't see a 7D making them look too much better from across the other side of the room.

David
 
i had my 7D for about 10 days & returned it to jessops for a full refund as i found the autofocus to be very inconsistent....got a Panasonic GF1 now & i love it a superb camera
 
I moved from 40D to 7D shortly after launch. I'd been appointed an event photographer at a local equine centre and needed to get shots in very poor light. To be honest I probably would have gone to Nonik 3D but the profit margins simply don't justify that kind of expense. That said the 7D has performed with distinction. Very happy with it. Not just a sport camera I recently did a portrait shoot and having the remote flash firing was a boon with a couple of Speedlights.
Used it Tripod mounted in the dark and was really impressed with the levelling display.
Had a chance to shoot video with over the Holidays....fab !
Highly reccommended but also consider the 5D MK2. Depending on your shooting style.
 
:thumbs: Appreciate all the comments, particualrly about the photographic subject matter it's aimed at.

I shoot mainly landscapes, studio (people and objects, pack shots etc..) and events. I don't really do sports, and wildlife, well if I see something nice in a forest then so be it but its not my main focus.

I have both a 580EX mkII and a 430EX and use the Canon transmitter so the built in trigger sounds really useful.

Has anyone used a 7D in a studio yet.? Any feedback re studio lights.?
 
having owned both the 7D & 5D2 & considering the subject matter you are shooting i would say forget the 7D & go for a 5D2...IMHO
 
britco said:
having owned both the 7D & 5D2 & considering the subject matter you are shooting i would say forget the 7D & go for a 5D2...IMHO
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:thinking: I'm most probably answering my original question myself here, but with dual Digic 4, 19 focus points, 63 metering points, etc.. as plus points for the 7D, and being able to use EF and EF/S lenses, and the price difference .. why the 5D2.?

I'm not a pro by any stretch and don't need 22mp images.
 
I'd say the 5DII as well, as it is better suited to the subjects you say you prefer to photograph.

You don't need 19 focus points for landscape and studio work, and the full frame 5DII will allow you to get more from your wide angle lenses in landscapes. You only need to Google 5dII and portrait to see how good it is in that role.
 
I've also got both options but would always use the 5DII for the type of shots you envisage (based on your post above).

Bob
 
Chaps.. do you think that if I could afford a 5D mkII + suitable glass for such a beast, let alone justify owning one, I would be asking questions about the 7D :D

I get what you're saying but that baby is simply out of range for me, both in £'s and marital stability :nono:


ps - Canon Bob, that is a serious kit bag you have there my man :cool:
 
Boney Boy said:
:thinking: I'm most probably answering my original question myself here, but with dual Digic 4, 19 focus points, 63 metering points, etc.. as plus points for the 7D, and being able to use EF and EF/S lenses, and the price difference .. why the 5D2.?

I'm not a pro by any stretch and don't need 22mp images.
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Well it would be wrong to suggest that the 7D wont perform in a studio or for landscapes - it most certainly will, but given your intended main usage then I agree with the others -the 5D2 is probably your better option - it's going to have the edge for noise and should yield the better image quality in big enlargements.
 
Went from the 40D to the 7D last year, its a great camera. The AI Servo blows the 40D out of the water.It is a different animal compared to the 40d and will take some time to master. If you need better glass that will be priority as the 7d will pick out the flaws of lesser glass more readily than the 40D.
 
I'm in mid change, posted my 40D today and just waiting on the 7D arriving.........

Will let you know.
 
zooxanthellae said:
.... If you need better glass that will be priority as the 7d will pick out the flaws of lesser glass more readily than the 40D.
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This was one of my thoughts - 7D and possibly new glass for the same price and a 5D2 body only!
 
Boney Boy said:
This was one of my thoughts - 7D and possibly new glass for the same price and a 5D2 body only!
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Well it used to be the case that just full frame sensors could find your glass wanting, but with pixel densities on crop sensors getting so great these days it's becoming just as true for these cameras, so you're wise to consider whether your glass can meet the demand.
 
Boney Boy said:
:thinking: I'm most probably answering my original question myself here, but with dual Digic 4, 19 focus points, 63 metering points, etc.. as plus points for the 7D, and being able to use EF and EF/S lenses, and the price difference .. why the 5D2.?

I'm not a pro by any stretch and don't need 22mp images.
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does it need to be new and shiny? a 5d classic with a 17-40L would be a good landscape and studio camera
 
I went from 40D to 7D last month - I seriously considered the 5DII, but £400 extra is still a lot of money, so I understand your point!

There is quite a steep learning curve, particularly with the AF, but it's definitely worth it IMO. The results with my 70-200 f4 IS have been great and AF is spot on.

I went from 300D to 20D to 40D and I think that this step-up is by far the biggest. :)
 
Also upgraded ... image quality is better IMHO, also AF servo, 8fps - shooting my dogs has meant more keepers. It is a step up but all is clear in the manual.. the range of custom functions is also quite straightforward and the Q screen is a real bonus...i could go on... do it:clap:
 
7D completely blows the 40D away, most particularly for me in ability to crop and AF performance. Sadly for those who have not already made the jump, the price is now slightly going up.
 
George said:
7D completely blows the 40D away, most particularly for me in ability to crop and AF performance. Sadly for those who have not already made the jump, the price is now slightly going up.
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Try Kerso....
 
britco said:
having owned both the 7D & 5D2 & considering the subject matter you are shooting i would say forget the 7D & go for a 5D2...IMHO
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It's a valid argument :)

I tried 40D, 7D and 5DII side by side, with very good glass at optimum apertures. You need to print quite big before you see any really meaningful difference at all, say over 15in, and then it was the improvement in noise that was perhaps more signifcant than sharpness IMHO.

For big enlargements say A3, or heavy crops, the 7D is clearly a step up in overall IQ, but the 5DII just walked away with stunning image quality in every aspect. If you only shoot portraits, landscapes and general stuff, 5DII is probably the way to go.

But for me, the better all round camera is the 7D because it not only makes a decent fist of these things, but for action and long lens photography it absolutely nails the 5DII to the floor. For sport and birding for example, 7D is miles better.

If money and other practical considerations were not an issue, I would have both a 5DII and a 7D. Or even better, 1DsII and 1DIV. But reality being what it is, and the fact that I really don't want to be flitting between two cameras and lenses, 7D is a no brainer for me.
 
What about the 7D softness that many comment on? There seem to be quite a few reputable people saying the same thing.
 
woof woof said:
What about the 7D softness that many comment on? There seem to be quite a few reputable people saying the same thing.
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I've always been told that the softness is by design as many labs and photo printers automatically add sharpness to digital images. You can always tweek the sharpness in the camera anyway.
 
Thanks for all your comments / feedback / advice etc.. much appreciated :thumbs:

After taking this all on board, and reading up on both cameras in more, I have plumped for the 7D and collected one today. :woot:

The battery is charging as we speak...

So if anyone is interested in a mint 450D, Tamron 28-300, and an 18-55 II (non IS) have a look at http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=193325

Cheers
 
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