Canon G1x

Looks promising, just a shame there's no potential to put a fast little prime on it.
 
squishy said:
Looks promising, just a shame there's no potential to put a fast little prime on it.
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yes, but I think canon is following fuji's footsteps in this market.. they released a large sensor fixed lens camera now... hopefully next, they will make it a interchangeable lens design..

if the new sensor delivers, this may be a great little camera!
 
It looked really promising until I saw the lens specs... It's a bit on the slow side at the long end! :(
 
POAH said:
will flop

too expensive, lens too slow, sensor slighly smaller than 4/3
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Why would it flop? The sensor is BIGGER than those in the micro 4/3rds system and there's no interchangeable lenses for users to worry about. Sounds great for someone who wants real (i.e. not simulated) creative depth of field effects and nice clean images. IS should help the slow lens speed at the 112mm end, but obviously it's not a sports cam :lol:
 
POAH said:
will flop

too expensive, lens too slow
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It will depended on the Canon marketing approach. You can sell anything to ignorant consumers these days. NIkon 1 is doing better than it should.
 
It's just going to be like a G12 with better image quality and low light abilities when you think about.
 
It looks to be about the size of a Panny DSLR style Gx series and if that's the case I'd take the Gx every single time for the convenience of being able to change lenses and use a fast prime.
 
Probably over 95% of people who buy cameras don't want to change lenses and would never get anything without a zoom on it. I have used the 20/1.7 on my GF1 for over 99% of the shots.

If the sensor delivers, this will sell well. I am still not happy with the high ISO of the micro4/3 cameras (have tried to love a G3 but still not there) so if I can get a decent ISO 3200 out of a G1x I just might go for it.

If the sensor delivers and this sells, maybe Canon will put the sensor in their first mirrorless digital camera with interchangeable lenses. It would make lots of sense to share sensor technology between such a line of cameras and the high end fixed lens cameras. Also the sensor size is close enough to their APS-C that they can share tech from the Rebel cameras (x00D) as well as some lens design work I'd hope.

With the S95 basically eating up much of the G12 market, it's nice to see Canon finally conceding that there are people who don't want an entry-level DSLR but are ready to spend money to get similar IQ in a compact camera.

I also give plus points for a physical exposure compensation dial :)
 
Agree with Jukka. I think it's a great move from Canon, and a far more significant launch than the G-branding suggests - this could be Canon's answer to CSC, in a way that doesn't threaten their DSLR market. And whatever you think about it, it does have a unique features set.

If you want a fast prime and other lens options, then clearly it's a non-runner. But if it's aimed at folks like me - DSLR owners that want a second walkabout camera - it's got a big sensor, versatile zoom, optical viewfinder, articulating screen, pop-up flash, and better DoF control than anything comparable. It's also smaller than anything else with a lens like that.

Of all the numerous compromises that have to be weighed up, this one offers the best balance for me. And it's also a Canon, which means I'll be able to work it without thinking too hard :D

Edit: and 4-stops IS, big hi-res LCD :thumbs:
 
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HoppyUK said:
Agree with Jukka. I think it's a great move from Canon, and a far more significant launch than the G-branding suggests - this could be Canon's answer to CSC, in a way that doesn't threaten their DSLR market. And whatever you think about it, it does have a unique features set.

If you want a fast prime and other lens options, then clearly it's a non-runner. But if it's aimed at folks like me - DSLR owners that want a second walkabout camera - it's got a big sensor, versatile zoom, optical viewfinder, articulating screen, pop-up flash, and better DoF control than anything comparable. It's also smaller than anything else with a lens like that.

Of all the numerous compromises that have to be weighed up, this one offers the best balance for me. And it's also a Canon, which means I'll be able to work it without thinking too hard :D

Edit: and 4-stops IS, big hi-res LCD :thumbs:
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Looking at how far mirrorless lens sales flag behind mirrorless body sales on Amazon I'm guessing the majority of the market is either users who are happy to stick with the kit lens or in a similar situation to you.

Up until now anyone wanting a reasonabley compact large sensor camera with a zoom really had no option but to go for an interchangeble lens system. Now those people who buy one and stick with the kit have the option of a longer zoom with what looks like a superior appature.
 
Dan74 said:
Just as i'd my mind made up on a fuji x10 :thinking:
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Same here! Mind you the lens is slower, and it probably doesn't have an equivalent to all the exr witchcraft for use in low light. The sensor is bigger though, so that may negate it. Will be very interested to see some comparison tests!
 
I was just looking at this today, and am in the market for a decent compact for when I can't be bothered to carry the DSLR. And then I saw the price! I could get a nice Leica for that sort of money.
 
Moreorless said:
Looking at how far mirrorless lens sales flag behind mirrorless body sales on Amazon I'm guessing the majority of the market is either users who are happy to stick with the kit lens or in a similar situation to you.

Up until now anyone wanting a reasonabley compact large sensor camera with a zoom really had no option but to go for an interchangeble lens system. Now those people who buy one and stick with the kit have the option of a longer zoom with what looks like a superior appature.
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It's got a lot going for it IMHO. And if it catches on, there's no reason why they couldn't do another version with a lower f/number but shorter range zoom - maybe 15-50/2.8-4, or another with a fixed prime 20/1.8. And keep the same form.

viewfromthenorth said:
Same here! Mind you the lens is slower, and it probably doesn't have an equivalent to all the exr witchcraft for use in low light. The sensor is bigger though, so that may negate it. Will be very interested to see some comparison tests!
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Check the G1X spec - it's got a load of cool tricks up its sleeve, including that clever handheld night scene thing and in-camera HDR. No sweep panorma that I can see though.

And the bigger sensor should be around a couple of stops better than any compact just on a pro-rata image area basis. On top of that, we don't know how good the Digic 5 processing engine is, but it comes from the 1DX :)

Scarecrow said:
I was just looking at this today, and am in the market for a decent compact for when I can't be bothered to carry the DSLR. And then I saw the price! I could get a nice Leica for that sort of money.
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G1X will be £599 by spring. Leica X1 is £1300 and no optical viewfinder.
 
I just got a PM from Ian Kerr (our Kerso) who'll be doing the first batch of G1X at £599. This is his new website http://www.flashcamera.co.uk/ though contact him direct for latest/best prices ;)
 
I have had a G11 for the past 2 years and I can see this as a massive step up, it's pretty much an DSLR sensor in a "compact". I will probably wait 12months for the price to drop, and bugs to be fixed, and for the hype to die down.

OK the lens isn't the fastest, but I can't see this being anything but a success for Canon. If the lens had been constant F2.8 can you imagine how large the camera would have been?!
 
About time this happened, just a shame about the lens, would have liked the lens off the ixus, 24-120mm. Still, looks like a great camera.
 
Oh great. Yet another camera I'll have to forbid myself from touching at focus / every time that I go to calumet, to avoid buying instantly because it's so pretty.


>_>
 
Oh if only that lens was a stop faster at the wide end, it would've been perfect. I really like Canon's PnS models (I started out on a G7).
 
They don't look very sharp do they? Either it's just not a sharp lens or there's some heavy NR/processing going on.... but manufacturers sample images are sometimes pretty awful anyway so I suppose we'll have to wait to try one or read the reviews of those who have.

Deffo not impressed by those shots though.
 
woof woof said:
They don't look very sharp do they? Either it's just not a sharp lens or there's some heavy NR/processing going on.... but manufacturers sample images are sometimes pretty awful anyway so I suppose we'll have to wait to try one or read the reviews of those who have.

Deffo not impressed by those shots though.
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OK in the centre, soft in the corners. Don't forget the tests samples are in the macro range, where non-macro lenses have their poorest performance. What did you expect from such compact slow zoom lens? Even the much bigger 24-105mm loses the game to it bigger brother (24-70) and all the primes.

The JPEGs look very good though. But even then it is too expensive - a dSLR can be had cheaper.
 
woof woof said:
They don't look very sharp do they? Either it's just not a sharp lens or there's some heavy NR/processing going on.... but manufacturers sample images are sometimes pretty awful anyway so I suppose we'll have to wait to try one or read the reviews of those who have.

Deffo not impressed by those shots though.
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I'm a bit surprised by these shots as they don't look anywhere as near as sharp as I thought they would be. I used to have a G11 (until my GF decided to give it a bath) but it was definitely sharper than that. I will hold out until I see some 'real world' examples though. I am keen to replace my G11, but I won't be on the pre-order list with this.
 
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