Images from the 1900's

irw1 said:
If anyone on here can hazard an educated guess as to the time gap between these two photos, I'd be very grateful. A year, two, more...?

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Cheers, Ian.
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i'd say more like 35-40 years, if the 1st picture was taken at the same time as the others circa 1900, the second has a what looks like a car in it, the road has been resurfaced also there are a lot more telephones in use as the number of carriers for the lines has gone from 1 to 4 or 5

is there any chance of posting them a bit bigger or links to bigger ones so I can see if it is a car

I love stuff like this, I bought a projector at a car boot sale for £40 because it came with a box of films, unfortunately I can't work out how to load the film as it didn't come with any instructions :bonk:

Thanks for sharing them :)
 
I inherited about 85 glass plates of Liverpool, all circa 1900. Street life and docklands mainly, with some servant girls and factory workers and kids playing in backstreets. I have given them all to the new Liverpool museum and they are planning an exhibition based around them, to be housed in the new building when it is finished. It seems they were taken by the city engineers as a documentary of life in Liverpool. I have put a few of the images on Flickr and they get loads of hits.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/photostar_1/sets/72157600704790184/
 
Many thanks for your help wack61 - here is the best crop I can get of the image atm. They all need re-scanning at a decent resolution tbh, and once that's done I can extract more of the details.

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I have no idea about the rate of progression in all honesty - I can see 7 phone lines in the second image, but have no idea how long a time span this would cover. :shrug: Any suggestions would be welome! :thumbs:
 
photostar_1 said:
I inherited about 85 glass plates of Liverpool, all circa 1900. Street life and docklands mainly, with some servant girls and factory workers and kids playing in backstreets. I have given them all to the new Liverpool museum and they are planning an exhibition based around them, to be housed in the new building when it is finished. It seems they were taken by the city engineers as a documentary of life in Liverpool. I have put a few of the images on Flickr and they get loads of hits.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/photostar_1/sets/72157600704790184/
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Fascinating stuff, and well done for sharing them with everyone else, I'll check out your flickr for sure. :):thumbs:
 
irw1 said:
Many thanks for your help wack61 - here is the best crop I can get of the image atm. They all need re-scanning at a decent resolution tbh, and once that's done I can extract more of the details.

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I have no idea about the rate of progression in all honesty - I can see 7 phone lines in the second image, but have no idea how long a time span this would cover. :shrug: Any suggestions would be welome! :thumbs:
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well, looking at the 2 cars I would say that it would go into the "Brass Era" to the "Vintage era" (from around 1905-1930). That narrows the gap a bit. If I had to give an educated guess, me thinks late 1910s - early 1920s looks about right (cars look more "car like" but haven't started to be streamlined, that started later on in the 30s). -then again, it could be the 30s and these are old cars! :lol: the one at the back has a picnic basket/trunk that looks rather 30s though! Agh! so confusing! -also the clothing looks late 20s/early 30s (aunts a costume designer so I know a "little" about that). :lol: ive just broadened your gap :lol:!

Do you know when this tog died? That could be a good help too.

You can read more here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_automobile
-its a good "starting point"

(scroll down just over a third)

Unless theres a telephone mast&line anorak on here I can't really give a better date:lol:

hope it helps!
 
If I had 2000 of these to look at I wouldn't see sunlight for weeks, they look like mundane photos of everyday life but I sit here imagining where the girl in the white coat in post 11 is going and what they're saying, everybody looks well dressed so i'd guess it was a sunday when it was taken.
 
Wack61 and AleksanderLoesch, thank you both for your time, links and helpful comments - you both clearly know more about this than I do! :lol: :thumbs: My original c.1900 guess for the majority of these images was just that - a guess - I have no concrete idea of the age of these images, other than the clues provided by the cars, buildings, clothing and landscapes...:shrug:

I have many other images of the cars and vans of the time, perhaps these two I have handy will help date them too? I'm off to bed now, but hopefully these will provide more clues?

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Wack61 - it is all too easy to spend (too many) hours looking at these...I share your feelings there! :thumbs: *vampire smilie* ;)

Thanks again to everyone who has looked, helped and commented.:)
 
Midland Bank Ltd didn't adopt this name until 1923. I think the name can be partially identified between the roadsigns in the second picture, so both pictures are post 1923. But they both have buses some years apart, I'd say the second one is not long after 1923, and the bus in the first one puts it much later
 
These look great and so much better without all those computer designed metal travel boxes we all call cars. I love looking at really old photos.:thumbs:
 
MisterE said:
Midland Bank Ltd didn't adopt this name until 1923. I think the name can be partially identified between the roadsigns in the second picture, so both pictures are post 1923. But they both have buses some years apart, I'd say the second one is not long after 1923, and the bus in the first one puts it much later
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Ahhh, interesting stuff thanks for that. It seems he took photographs over quite a long period of time. A historian who saw some of the plates identified one as being 1898 - he knew when a fence in a particular image was built, so it dated the image. Clearly some are much later, into the 19030's, so this was a long running passion for our man.

Ajophotog said:
These look great and so much better without all those computer designed metal travel boxes we all call cars. I love looking at really old photos.:thumbs:
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Cheers Alby. :) Here's another car-less image for you. As much as I like old cars, I do think that the ones with horse-drawn carriages have a certain charm.

Ringwood Market:

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And one of the photographer's car, with the box on the back that he used to carry all his camera kit. This was taken in a little village called Sway - and the tower in the background still stands today. I suspect this could be dated from the number plate, which is: LA 3665.

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irw1 said:
If anyone on here can hazard an educated guess as to the time gap between these two photos, I'd be very grateful. A year, two, more...?

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That's an interesting pair of pictures. The only thing which shows any passage of time is the increase in the number of telephone lines on the pole.

I would guess between five and ten years.



Steve.
 
my historical powers end here :lol: i am not too much of an all-knowledgeable person when it comes to such things!

but I do have a friend who has a knack at looking at a photo of any car, and naming it/dating it. ( a bit like Richard "Hamster" Hammond ) i am *hopefully* seeing him next week, and he might be able to help date some of those cars!
 
Outstanding i could spend all day looking a this type of photography ,I think its great when the local echo puts them in its publication , when you have scanned them all would really like to see them please post a link mate , thanks Again Gary
 
AleksanderLoesch said:
my historical powers end here :lol: i am not too much of an all-knowledgeable person when it comes to such things!

but I do have a friend who has a knack at looking at a photo of any car, and naming it/dating it. ( a bit like Richard "Hamster" Hammond ) i am *hopefully* seeing him next week, and he might be able to help date some of those cars!
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Thanks mate, I'll be interested to hear what your friend thinks. If I can find a small variety of the cars I will post them for you. ;)

gingerjon said:
This is a tremendous thread - the quality of the images after such a long time is just stunning.

I will keep checking back!
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Thank you - I wish I could take the credit for these images! :lol:

Gary Wood said:
Outstanding i could spend all day looking a this type of photography ,I think its great when the local echo puts them in its publication , when you have scanned them all would really like to see them please post a link mate , thanks Again Gary
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Me too Gary! When I've decided what I'm going to do with them all, I'll certainly let you guys know.

Here's a couple more I found on an old CD this morning. Some were obviously scanned at a slightly higher res, but they're still in grayscale 8 bit - so plenty of room for improvements when they're re-scanned. :)

Studland Bay Steamer:

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Disembarking: (I love this image!)

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A crop of the above image:

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I'm trying to find some of Bournemouth atm - I think they were some of the plates that suffered water-damage though, which is a shame. :(

Thanks again for all your interest folks - I really didn't think they would be so well recieved. :)
 
I hope this encourages some guys to get out and photograph ordinary aspects of life instead of sunsets and flowers. Many scenes of life in 2009 that now seem boring will be fascinating in years to some. I remember seeing, in the 1950's, coal miners walking home in ther black work clothes, enormous floods of men leaving a shipyard on foot or bicycle and motorcycles with sidecars for family transport, it was so normal no-one would think to take photographs of such scenes.. Alas, this was before I had a camera, I hope someone else took such shots.

Here are a few of my 'social history' shots from the 1970's,
http://www.peterloud.co.uk/photos/

Cheers,

Pete
 
I am loving this thread. ANy chance you could give us the name of the man who took the pictures??

If I had the pictures, I would firstly look into copyright in them - do you definately have it, does it expire, do the images still have it at all? I know there is some rule about copyright lasting for so many years after the authors death for written works, unsure for photos. I woud make sure that you have it.

I would then look to split this into a series of books, based on geographic regions. People like buying books that are of local interest, and these are unseen photos. Get someone from the local geographic society to write a short peice, include a bit about the photogrpaher and then contact the people who have published other local interest books.

You have a great number of books at 50 prints a book. You could easily do regional books etc.

A website related to the books would give people the opportunity to buy prints from you, another money spinner. The pub you put the photo of on earlier would probably buy a large print for the wall to show the history of the building - assuming it is still there and still a pub.

Don't get me wrong, I don;t think you can retire on this, but it could easily earn you a few quid for quite a while.
 
As for finding his name if you dont know. Is there a way you could use his car registration number to find his details ?
 
Scan them & sell at local farmers & Saturday markets etc throughout Hampshire. Also have some business cards done for further sales & look to set up a website for sales.

Love looking at them.

There is a stall in Wokingham market on Saturdays that does exactly the above

Good luck
 
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