Internet explorer 10 won't be supporting flash

Tee hee... You are obsessed by this but if you actually read it, it's the Metro (i.e. pad) version of IE10 that won't support it. As the article you linked to states:

But hey, don’t worry. If you’re using Windows 8 and you’ve opened Internet Explorer under the regular Windows desktop, you’ll have the same web browsing experience you’re used to.
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arad85 said:
Tee hee... You are obsessed by this but if you actually read it, it's the Metro (i.e. pad) version of IE10 that won't support it. As the article you linked to states:
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I saw that part, but I'm hoping they axe it on the desktop too

Flash is not the saviour of the Internet

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arad85 said:
Tee hee... You are obsessed by this but if you actually read it, it's the Metro (i.e. pad) version of IE10 that won't support it. As the article you linked to states:
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no i've read it, but the message is that it's another player who's debunking flash, and continuing a precedence.

by the way i'm not obsessed with killing flash, i'm a flash developer myself :lol:. I just find the movement interesting
 
It's funny isn't it. There was such uproar when apple refused to implement flash on the iPhone.

Now it's almost likely it's on the way out, to be replaced with html5.

Maybe apple knew what direction flash was going in before rest of the industry did?

Either way, I'm all for it.
 
It'll be on the desktop until HTML5 is implemented exactly the same way by at least 90% of user's browsers. About 2050 then :P

Making simple Javascript work the same on IE8/FF/Chrome is bad enough, let alone the corporates that are on IE6 still.
 
iamchrisphoto said:
It's funny isn't it. There was such uproar when apple refused to implement flash on the iPhone.

Now it's almost likely it's on the way out, to be replaced with html5.

Maybe apple knew what direction flash was going in before rest of the industry did?

Either way, I'm all for it.
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It's not that they knew the direction of the industry. It's that they directed the industry.
 
No, they didn't. Flash was and still is in many cases the best solution for rich media on the internet. HTML5 was always going to be the future. While HTML5 is still only a draft standard, and is still very poorly supported by a lot of browsers, Flash is still happily dishing out rich media interfaces to the majority of the internet, as it has been for years.

Probably will be doing video for a while until the WebM v h264 bunfight is sorted out as well.
 
mid_gen said:
No, they didn't. Flash was and still is in many cases the best solution for rich media on the internet. HTML5 was always going to be the future. While HTML5 is still only a draft standard, and is still very poorly supported by a lot of browsers, Flash is still happily dishing out rich media interfaces to the majority of the internet, as it has been for years.

Probably will be doing video for a while until the WebM v h264 bunfight is sorted out as well.
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Yes they did. HTML5 is going to be the future because apple and google got behind it. It doesn't matter how good something is, unless the right people put their weight behind it, it doesn't get done.
 
Think you'll find W3C are behind HTML5. Being the latest version of the internet standard markup language and all.

You also seem to be under the mistaken impression that HTML5 is 'done'. Firstly it's still in draft status, and even the latest browsers all have different implementations of it....and second, it's still not nailed down a key video features....for which Flash is still superior.

Open standards are better for everyone, when they are ready. There's a reason that Flash is so ubiquitous....because it works. Up until a couple of years ago there would have been no video on the internet without Flash, no Youtube....the internet would be a very different place.
 
mid_gen said:
Think you'll find W3C are behind HTML5. Being the latest version of the internet standard markup language and all.

You also seem to be under the mistaken impression that HTML5 is 'done'. Firstly it's still in draft status, and even the latest browsers all have different implementations of it....and second, it's still not nailed down a key video features....for which Flash is still superior.

Open standards are better for everyone, when they are ready. There's a reason that Flash is so ubiquitous....because it works. Up until a couple of years ago there would have been no video on the internet without Flash, no Youtube....the internet would be a very different place.
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I think you'll find that you are misreading my comment. When I say that Apple and Google are "behind" HTML5 i'm not saying they created it. I'm saying they are backing it and supporting it and pushing it on their products in replacement of flash, i.e. they are "behind" it.

I'm not under a mistaken impression. HTML5 will always evolve and still has to evolve. Everybody knows that, it's a given for an open standard.

Flash has seen it's day and will move over BECAUSE of the weight behind it by companies like google and Apple and now Windows. It would not have progressed if the companies mentioned above or ones like them didn't get behind it to replace the features that other plugins like flash has done in the past.
 
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Like it or not, it is so heavily used over the internet, it will be a long time before Flash dies.

HTML5 cannot do what Flash can do at this stage, so I wouldn't expect a leap of faith from all the creative types just yet.
 
neil_g said:
there isnt really any excuse to be on that low version. compatibility mode rolled out via group policy for certain sites has fixed that for us. IE6 is potentially a big security hole.
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Microsoft sold a lot of networking solutions that were based on IE6. A lot of public bodies use IE6 because they can't afford to upgrade their networks built on IE6. For some it's actually cheaper fixing security holes constantly than upgrading.
 
Flash won't die. You'd be stupid if you thought that. It's under constant change. Adobe AIR is one of the best things that happened to developers. AS3 is actually a pretty good programming language when in the right hands and coupled with AIR you can create some great desktop applications. 98% of computers have Flash installed. That's not a death to me.
 
I don't think it will die, but it will die in its current form. Which is being the main server of media to the internet. As you say it will and has evolved. It will cease being flash and fully embody Air on mobile and desktop computing.
 
KayJay said:
Microsoft sold a lot of networking solutions that were based on IE6. A lot of public bodies use IE6 because they can't afford to upgrade their networks built on IE6. For some it's actually cheaper fixing security holes constantly than upgrading.
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sorry, care to explain? im not aware of anything like that any couldnt find anything on google
 
neil_g said:
sorry, care to explain? im not aware of anything like that any couldnt find anything on google
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I don't know what they do with it, but we have a number of customers who are on IE6 (schools), cannot upgrade but won't/can't tell me why they can't upgrade.

I think it is lack of understanding/testing as the networks are extremely basic networks.
 
i think its more a case of legacy web apps and compatibility rather than network issues to be honest, i cant think of a single reason why a browser upgrade would have a knock on impact to networks?

it might not be as much of a security issue for static users sat behind a corporate firewall but for mobile users its playing with fire.
 
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They don't use web apps though :confused:
 
neil_g said:
sorry, care to explain? im not aware of anything like that any couldnt find anything on google
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I'm not sure how I can elaborate. I thought it was pretty clear. Why would it be on Google?

Having worked as a web developer in the public sector I can guarantee that this is an issue.
 
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Every major corporate I've worked at, the majority of internal web apps won't work on anything but IE6.

HTML5 isn't going to be a reality in the corporate world for a looooong time. In the meantime, they'll be using the best tool for the job for RIAs.....Flash.

Believe it or not, Flash does more than allow bad web designers to play annoying music at you.
 
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