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I've only recently gotten into photography. And as part of that for me I have spent hours and hours both at home and at work watching youtube channels and reading these and many forums.

So early on I realised that I had made a mistake by getting the 7d rather than the full frame big brother 5d ii/iii. Not a major problem, but a lot of the stuff I am interested in with video and landscapes would be better suited.

However there has been two thing's I have been interested in. One was getting some prime lens's due to being able to use them in low light, and the other is for the speed of them and sharpness with video. The other was a lack or reach, when it came to wanting to photograph wildlife and sports.

So with Canon's cashback offer, I can get the 70-200 2.8 is ii, for around £1250. This is within what I can afford, however it will limit my budget for a while.

So I am wondering if I would be right in doing this, or should I just chop in the 7d and get the 5d?

To give you some perspective, recently I have gotten big lowepro bag, canon 430ex ii flash, Manfrotto tripod and head. So I have not been skimping. I just want some advice on what I should be focussing on how.
 
You'll make a big loss selling the 7d on as the used prices seem to have fallen quite a lot and you could get a canon 10-22 for landscapes and other wide angle photography. But if your heart is set on the 5d2 you won't regret it.
 
I'd only swap the 7d for a 5d3 if I had to change. having owned all the bodies you mention, and the 5d2 whilst it takes some good pics and is FF, everything else about is old tech. Overall feel of it, AF and build quality is really past it's prime and comparable to the 50D = not amazing
 
Thanks for the input. It is appreciated. I don't really want to stump £2k for a 5d iii, as I havn't reached the limits with my 7d so far and so actually like the camera.

So do you think that the 70-200 is ii would be a better way to spend some money burning a whole in my pocket. I would use the extra range, and like the idea of is for video.

Thanks so far.
 
You need to build up glass collection, and you will probably need 2 bodies if you are going to do any business.

But you really need to go out and practice a lot, read on, get feedback, etc. This is what matters the most. And it will be a little while before you will push the limits of 7D.
 
daugirdas said:
You need to build up glass collection, and you will probably need 2 bodies if you are going to do any business.

But you really need to go out and practice a lot, read on, get feedback, etc. This is what matters the most. And it will be a little while before you will push the limits of 7D.
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No interest in ever making a penny out of photography. It's just something I am really interested in. In my experience, as soon as you start taking money for something it becomes work, and once you call it work it loses something special about it. Just my opinion. I also am quite financially comfortable and don't need to.

Will take the advice and invest in the lens. It is something I have been looking at for a while and salivating over. And with the cashback I can justify it to myself as a bargain.
 
where did you see the Canon's cashback offertaking the price to £1250 ?
the best ive seen has been more like £1550
 
If you are suffering lack of reach for wildlife then the 7D is always going to offer more with the crop factor. The 7D is as capable of taking any image that the 5D3 can, so stop fretting and just get out and use the thing.
 
supersammy said:
I've only recently gotten into photography. And as part of that for me I have spent hours and hours both at home and at work watching youtube channels and reading these and many forums.

So early on I realised that I had made a mistake by getting the 7d rather than the full frame big brother 5d ii/iii. Not a major problem, but a lot of the stuff I am interested in with video and landscapes would be better suited.

However there has been two thing's I have been interested in. One was getting some prime lens's due to being able to use them in low light, and the other is for the speed of them and sharpness with video. The other was a lack or reach, when it came to wanting to photograph wildlife and sports.

So with Canon's cashback offer, I can get the 70-200 2.8 is ii, for around £1250. This is within what I can afford, however it will limit my budget for a while.

So I am wondering if I would be right in doing this, or should I just chop in the 7d and get the 5d?

To give you some perspective, recently I have gotten big lowepro bag, canon 430ex ii flash, Manfrotto tripod and head. So I have not been skimping. I just want some advice on what I should be focussing on how.
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I'm not trying to be mean, and I can't see what lens(es) you already have but maybe you should focus on learning your way around the new equipment you already have before you get more gear?
 
SixToes said:
I'm not trying to be mean, and I can't see what lens(es) you already have but maybe you should focus on learning your way around the new equipment you already have before you get more gear?
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Your probably right - but I find it frustrating wanting to take a photo of something and not being able to. To most on here, I'd probably look like a bit of an idiot carrying around some of that kit in automatic mode - however if I am happy and learning than I don't really care.
 
niko said:
where did you see the Canon's cashback offertaking the price to £1250 ?
the best ive seen has been more like £1550
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I shall say tomorrow once I have brought it. Have checked cash back is available and it is a brand new uk model with canon warranty. But I won't post it now incase anyone nicks it as there is only one.
 
supersammy said:
I shall say tomorrow once I have brought it. Have checked cash back is available and it is a brand new uk model with canon warranty. But I won't post it now incase anyone nicks it as there is only one.
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just remember a good old 'if it is too good to be true it probably is'...
 
supersammy said:
...however if I am happy and learning than I don't really care.
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That's what important so fair play to you :)

Depending on what sort of wildlife you're interested in 200mm may not be enough. I suspect you'll sometimes find yourself wanting more - I often did when using 300mm lenses with my APS-C bodies. Might be worth looking at the 100-400 L IS instead, although obviously it's 2 stops slower than the 200 2.8 at the long end.
 
daugirdas said:
just remember a good old 'if it is too good to be true it probably is'...
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I know that. I actually earn my living in online sales and no how to check stuff out and follow due diligence. Plus the advantage of a credit card is that you are legally protected. But I am confident that it is legit - think not gumtree or dodgy website seller.
 
SixToes said:
That's what important so fair play to you :)

Depending on what sort of wildlife you're interested in 200mm may not be enough. I suspect you'll sometimes find yourself wanting more - I often did when using 300mm lenses with my APS-C bodies. Might be worth looking at the 100-400 L IS instead, although obviously it's 2 stops slower than the 200 2.8 at the long end.
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Possibly and it's something I have spent a long time thinking about. However I can always get an extender. And there are things about the 100-400 I've read, mainly that I am told it just sucks up dust like there is no tomorrow.
 
7D + 70-300L is a great combo for wildlife (captive).

7D + EF-S 10-22 is a great wide combo.

6D (full frame) + 24-105L is a great all round combo.
 
Jackwow said:
7D + 70-300L is a great combo for wildlife (captive).

7D + EF-S 10-22 is a great wide combo.

6D (full frame) + 24-105L is a great all round combo.
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I made the "mistake" if you want to call it that of getting the 24-105L as my first lens. As I got my camera body only. My logic at the time was that it was an l-series lens, and would work really well as it covered a lot of focal lengths.

Many people on here will probably quite rightly say that it's too narrow. However as it's all I have got at the moment, and all I have I am fine with it. It's quick to autofocus and too my mind gives good results.

I will look into the 10-22 though, however I was sort of hoping to get a bigger zoom lens, and then start playing with primes.
 
IMO, the FF cameras do not have that many advantages. You can get a lot more gain in low light performance with a faster lens than you can with a FF body. And faster lenses will tend to be sharper with better clarity/contrast at any given aperture. Start with lenses... but don't buy anything unless it solves a specific problem (or you just have money to waste).
 
supersammy said:
I shall say tomorrow once I have brought it. Have checked cash back is available and it is a brand new uk model with canon warranty. But I won't post it now incase anyone nicks it as there is only one.
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Go on then, spill... where?
 
Play - but I am obviously not very good at mental maths. Because after cash back it's actally £1350. Which I still think is OK.
 
Nothing on there mentions it is UK stock...
 
RichardtheSane said:
Nothing on there mentions it is UK stock...
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Email confims that it is UK stock and it eligible for cashback. Obviously they could be lying. However I'm sure play would be interested in them mis selling, and you would be able to do a chargeback on the basis that it is not as described.
 
If you, like many, spent less time watching youtube clips and reading about photograhy and got out more and used you camera you will realise you have a great camera already. Stop reading other peoples opinions of cameras as almost every one will have a different opinion
 
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