Nikon D750 & D780

Guess I was spoilt by trying the Riii first!!

I must admit seeing the change of exposure in the viewfinder was interesting, but not sure if its something you need in RAW?!
It's certainly not something you need with modern day cameras, especially Nikon as you can get the exposure quite wrong and it doesn't matter. I'm not saying that you should do this or rely on this of course, but it's obviously not as critical as it once once.

That is my biggest draw to mirrorless. Getting your exposure bang on every time saves so much time in editing!
TBH even with my EM1 I will sometimes change exposure in PP as what you see in the EVF/LCD and what you see on your computer can be two different things. Even if you go by the histogram as you know it's only showing the jpeg so it's not 100% reliable. What I'm saying is that whether I'm using my D850 or my EM1 my need to tweak or not tweak exp values is the same.
 
IMO the biggest draw in mirrorless is what you see is what you get. Especially focus/dof.
I have used and still use an EVF (in preference to the OVF on my Fuji X100T) and TBH I can't say that they show me what I'm going to get. It certainly doesn't help me with focus - the supposed focussing aids only serve as distractions to me. DOF is increased over the final use of the image because the EVF is smaller. Colours and exposure aren't consistent with final use either. It's just a framing device like an OVF to my eyes. One that drains the battery too.

The only advantage I've found with mirrorless is when using the rear screen for framing the shot (the D7590 is clunky to use like that) - and a touch screen to move the focus point when doing that is really useful.
 
I have used and still use an EVF (in preference to the OVF on my Fuji X100T) and TBH I can't say that they show me what I'm going to get. It certainly doesn't help me with focus - the supposed focussing aids only serve as distractions to me. DOF is increased over the final use of the image because the EVF is smaller. Colours and exposure aren't consistent with final use either. It's just a framing device like an OVF to my eyes. One that drains the battery too.

The only advantage I've found with mirrorless is when using the rear screen for framing the shot (the D7590 is clunky to use like that) - and a touch screen to move the focus point when doing that is really useful.
How do you rate the X100T? I've been toying with the idea of getting the X100 (the one with the bayer sensor) but I'm not sure I can 'cope' with just one focal length, although I do know you can get adapters. How does the hybrid viewfinder work, I'm not sure exactly what you see through the viewfinder? Is it like TTL viewfinders where you see what you're getting, ir is it more like the old rangefinders where it's just a window and you have to guess/get used to what image you're going to get with it? (I should really ask this on the Fuji thread shouldn't I :LOL:)
 
My worry is the price of my gear will keep dropping making any move to mirrorless even more unlikely.

I could probably just afford what I want to right now which would be the A7iii with 70-200 2.8 and Samyang 35mm. But not sure if I could live with the grip, the EVF and the tilt screen that doesn’t really tilt down very much.
 
How do you rate the X100T? I've been toying with the idea of getting the X100 (the one with the bayer sensor) but I'm not sure I can 'cope' with just one focal length, although I do know you can get adapters. How does the hybrid viewfinder work, I'm not sure exactly what you see through the viewfinder? Is it like TTL viewfinders where you see what you're getting, ir is it more like the old rangefinders where it's just a window and you have to guess/get used to what image you're going to get with it? (I should really ask this on the Fuji thread shouldn't I :LOL:)
Don't go in the Fuji thread. They're strange there!

I only use the EVF or the screen. The hybrid viewfinder is like the rangefinder. Shows more than you'll get (with the native lens) but has frame lines and the focus point moves when you focus. When you add one of the other lenses the optical viewfinder gets obstructed.

The focus speed on the original X100 is supposed to be more sluggish than the X100T. I went for the T as it's a little more refined overall in usability - to my mind. The files are pretty good with a fair degree of highlight recovery.

I have both add on lenses, but they do make the camera more bulky - especially the tele one.
 
I might chop my 610 in. Haven’t got any paid stuff booked in until next year and I might just buy another 750 when I need one, given the prices.
 
Nah, I haven’t the spare dough to chop and change.

That’s the trouble. Even chopping all my kit in I’m well short of what I need!!!

A7iii + 70-200 2.8 is nearly £4000!!!

FOUR THOUSAND POUNDS!!!

And that’s grey prices too!
 
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That’s the trouble. Even chopping all my kit in I’m well short of what I need!!!

A7iii + 70-200 2.8 is nearly £4000!!!

FOUR THOUSAND POUNDS!!!

And that’s grey prices too!
Sure is a hell of a lot of money.
 
That’s the trouble. Even chopping all my kit in I’m well short of what I need!!!

A7iii + 70-200 2.8 is nearly £4000!!!

FOUR THOUSAND POUNDS!!!

And that’s grey prices too!
And how much is a D850 & 70-200 2.8. Just as much I’m guessing. Not that I’m particularly sticking up for the Sony, would rather have the Nikon personally.
 
But the ultimate question has to be: will it improve you as a photographer, or drastically make the whole experience easier/more enjoyable?

Even if I did have the money, it's not the gear for me that is limiting my photography. I've mellowed where gear is concerned over the years. Sure it's nice to have the latest/best, and I've been on those bandwagons many times, but if you have half decent kit, there's other things that are stopping you. But if the gear is your prozac, then go get your fix and get creative with the wife/bank manager/payday loan shark
 
And how much is a D850 & 70-200 2.8. Just as much I’m guessing. Not that I’m particularly sticking up for the Sony, would rather have the Nikon personally.

Yeah but D850 is surely A7Riii?
 
But the ultimate question has to be: will it improve you as a photographer, or drastically make the whole experience easier/more enjoyable?

Even if I did have the money, it's not the gear for me that is limiting my photography. I've mellowed where gear is concerned over the years. Sure it's nice to have the latest/best, and I've been on those bandwagons many times, but if you have half decent kit, there's other things that are stopping you. But if the gear is your prozac, then go get your fix and get creative with the wife/bank manager/payday loan shark

No is the easy answer. Looking at my images from the weekend they are so clean and the way it handled the low indoor work was amazing. Especially as I forgot and spent all morning in jpeg!!!

Need to step back sometimes and realise what decent kit I actually have. The 70-200 ED is probably one of the best 70-200’s IQ wise eve made.

I’m going to do a little 50mm project over next few months with the yard and horses just to keep me shooting more often. Think it will be fun!

And on another note. Does anyone use peak designs with 70-200 and mount an anchor on the lens? Please note my zoom ring is at the front!
 
And how much is a D850 & 70-200 2.8. Just as much I’m guessing. Not that I’m particularly sticking up for the Sony, would rather have the Nikon personally.
I don’t think that’s was the point tbh, it’s the cost to change (y)
 
No is the easy answer. Looking at my images from the weekend they are so clean and the way it handled the low indoor work was amazing. Especially as I forgot and spent all morning in jpeg!!!

Need to step back sometimes and realise what decent kit I actually have. The 70-200 ED is probably one of the best 70-200’s IQ wise eve made.

I’m going to do a little 50mm project over next few months with the yard and horses just to keep me shooting more often. Think it will be fun!

And on another note. Does anyone use peak designs with 70-200 and mount an anchor on the lens? Please note my zoom ring is at the front!
My photography hasn’t improved since swapping to the D850 tbh.
 
I don’t think that’s was the point tbh, it’s the cost to change (y)

Yes the cost to change (if you then add a 50mm) would cost me the best part of £2000 even before the faster SD cards, an extra battery and a flipping charger!
 
Not the way the Sony a7iii guys bang on about it :D:D




My bad, I thought it was cost to buy. Surely it isn't that pricey!

Sell
D750 £800
70-200 £1400
50mm £100

Buy
A7iii £1600 (grey)
70-200 - £2000 (grey)
50mm - £180 (and the 1.8 looks slow)
Charger - £80
Battery - £60
SD cards - £?

£1600ish before SD cards - plus IMO a worse 50mm.
 
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Not the way the Sony a7iii guys bang on about it :D:D




My bad, I thought it was cost to buy. Surely it isn't that pricey!
When I had my D750 I looked into it, I was offered around £850 for the D750 and £940 for the 70-200mm f2.8 VRII IIRC. At the time the A7riii was £2300 grey and the Sony 70-200mm f2.8 £2k grey. I’d obviously have had to fork out £2k to get what I already had.
 
Mine has improved since listening to peoples advice on here, that’s a big compliment to this place and this thread in particular.
It’s a great forum for sure. I hit a plateau ages ago and I’ve not improved since. Tbh as a result it’s led to frustration and to me not going out half as much as I did. Tbh my fibro’s attributed to some of my lack of enthusiasm, but it’s mainly my lack of development. I’ve even considered ditching all the gear and going back to basics, I think this is why I’ve been contemplating the X100 tbh.
 
When I had my D750 I looked into it, I was offered around £850 for the D750 and £940 for the 70-200mm f2.8 VRII IIRC. At the time the A7riii was £2300 grey and the Sony 70-200mm f2.8 £2k grey. I’d obviously have had to fork out £2k to get what I already had.

Yeah I’m looking at £1700 inc cards etc. just don’t have that lying around. That’s the trouble when you want the 2.8!
 
It’s a great forum for sure. I hit a plateau ages ago and I’ve not improved since. Tbh as a result it’s led to frustration and to me not going out half as much as I did. Tbh my fibro’s attributed to some of my lack of enthusiasm, but it’s mainly my lack of development. I’ve even considered ditching all the gear and going back to basics, I think this is why I’ve been contemplating the X100 tbh.

Go out and shoot some stuff you've never done before.
 
Sell
D750 £800
70-200 £1400
50mm £100

Buy
A7iii £1600 (grey)
70-200 - £2000 (grey)
50mm - £180 (and the 1.8 looks slow)
Charger - £80
Battery - £60
SD cards - £?

£1600ish before SD cards - plus IMO a worse 50mm.

Keep it sensible, that's your cost to change to new from your 4 yr old camera and last gen lens.

Let's do a real comparison for current new gear...

Z6 - 2200
70-200 fl - 2400
50 - 200
Ftz adapter - 270
---------
5070

A7iii - 2000
70-200 - 2500
50 - 180
Charger - tenner
-----------
4690

You can't price compare old used gear against latest releases.
 
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Keep it sensible, that's your cost to change to new from your 4 yr old camera and last gen lens.

Let's do a real comparison for current new gear...

Z6 - 2200
70-200 fl - 2400
50 - 200
Ftz adapter - 270
---------
5070

A7iii - 2000
70-200 - 2500
50 - 180
Charger - tenner
-----------
4690

You can't price compare old used gear to latest releases.

What’s your point??? We are talking about the cost involved if I wanted to change from my current gear. Not comparing costs.
 
Sell
D750 £800
70-200 £1400
50mm £100

Buy
A7iii £1600 (grey)
70-200 - £2000 (grey)
50mm - £180 (and the 1.8 looks slow)
Charger - £80
Battery - £60
SD cards - £?

£1600ish before SD cards - plus IMO a worse 50mm.
D750 is now £849 brand new with one years warrenty. Second hand must surely start with a 6 now!
 
It’s a great forum for sure. I hit a plateau ages ago and I’ve not improved since. Tbh as a result it’s led to frustration and to me not going out half as much as I did. Tbh my fibro’s attributed to some of my lack of enthusiasm, but it’s mainly my lack of development. I’ve even considered ditching all the gear and going back to basics, I think this is why I’ve been contemplating the X100 tbh.

I think many of us can identify with this, I certainly do. Like anything, to improve, you need to challenge yourself and step out of your comfort zone. We all get into a habit of shooting the same things, in much the same way. I started off the year with a plan to shoot more, which is essential in order to improve. The reality has not been this. I had hoped to find some more regular shooting, coupled with a little paid work to help fund the hobby, but I have eased off that more recently as life takes over. With the colder months approaching, it's time to dust off the lighting kit and get the studio back out, hopefully should help reignite my enthusiasm. I've discovered another little pursuit/hobby this summer too and guess I've been focussing all my resources and money on that so can't do it all
 
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