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That'll learn you for using f2 primes.
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That'll learn you for using f2 primes.
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And yet the XT2 has dual card slots where the A7RII does not ... maybe dual slots are not so important then
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I have checked them out before they was even released. They are nice but not nice enough to switch systems. I value iq af, tech and lens choices ahead of ergonomics.You should check out the Z bodies, ergonomically they are the best mirrorless bodies to date, even better than new Sony A9 II etc.
The 24-70mm f2.8 GM is good but the Nikkor is better lol.
Remember when Sony first came out, how it was ridiculed for lack of lenses..... Nikon is at the same point. However for my uses a decent 24-70mm, 50mm and 85mm setup is more than enough. I don't shoot professionally anymore.
Happy with the a7r3 and a9 ergonomic personally..
The z bodies are slightly nicer.
Give me a proper global shutter on the z bodies then I may switch..
But I bet the Sony a 10 will will be first to have it. Sony ain't slowing down.
They are the PlayStation of cameras hehe.
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When you look at the Nikon Z bodies, Nikon weren't far off.
They have nailed the body, build and user interface ... they just need to improve AF/Eye-AF, add a extra card slot and it suddenly becomes a very competitive body when comparing against Sony.
I am eagerly awaiting the Nikon Z9. Exciting times.....
They have nailed the body, build and user interface ... they just need to improve AF/Eye-AF, add a extra card slot and it suddenly becomes a very competitive body when comparing against Sony.
I am eagerly awaiting the Nikon Z9.
Exciting times.....
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I had a silly work around.... I changed my SD cards every hour and was running 2 A7R II bodies! lolAnd yet the XT2 has dual card slots where the A7RII does not ... maybe dual slots are not so important then
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Fair points...... I can't keep up with the technology on a year for year basis so will wait it out for now. My GM lenses won't suddenly devalue over night and the Sony A9 has already taken a good value hit. (which was to be expected).
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What we never had we never missed.
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True, but maybe we all buy into the paranoia and marketing strategies that manufacturers feed us
Don't get me wrong, of course I think if everyone had the choice then you'd have a backup, but for informal shoots etc then dual slots isn't essential. Now if I ever have a card failure I'm sure I'd change my tune Seems like the internet disagrees with that, with the A9II specs they’ve come to a stand still.
A10? They haven’t even got the A7SIII out, that’s been coming for the last 12-15 months.
PlayStation.... I can see why it’s taken the 4 A7 body iterations to get the design right after seeing this monstrosity
Joking BTW, not about the PlayStation design though if it looks anywhere near that.
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I’ve used my Z6 at weddings since May.
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For those that have the 50mm f1.8 S and previously the 50mm f1.8g how're you finding it in terms of rendering? I know the S version is insanely sharp but I do like the rendering of the G version. My worry is that some lenses are getting too clinical looking, and I've not seen image variation to build a good picture of the S version.
These are about the best examples I've found, the subject isolation and illusive 'depth' to the 'portrait' shots in the first link seems quite extreme and dare I say it Leica like
https://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/nikon_z_50mm_f1_8_s_review/sample_images
https://photographylife.com/reviews/nikon-z-50mm-f1-8-s/5
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Another example of the depth and isolation I'm referring to can be seen on this page, the biker crouching down in the camera store
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1573955/1
These are about the best examples I've found, the subject isolation and illusive 'depth' to the 'portrait' shots in the first link seems quite extreme and dare I say it Leica like
https://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/nikon_z_50mm_f1_8_s_review/sample_images
https://photographylife.com/reviews/nikon-z-50mm-f1-8-s/5
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Another example of the depth and isolation I'm referring to can be seen on this page, the biker crouching down in the camera store
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1573955/1
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The Z mount lens is definitely the better lens, renders really nicely from the samples I’ve seen.For those that have the 50mm f1.8 S and previously the 50mm f1.8g how're you finding it in terms of rendering? I know the S version is insanely sharp but I do like the rendering of the G version. My worry is that some lenses are getting too clinical looking, and I've not seen image variation to build a good picture of the S version.
These are about the best examples I've found, the subject isolation and illusive 'depth' to the 'portrait' shots in the first link seems quite extreme and dare I say it Leica like
https://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/nikon_z_50mm_f1_8_s_review/sample_images
https://photographylife.com/reviews/nikon-z-50mm-f1-8-s/5
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Another example of the depth and isolation I'm referring to can be seen on this page, the biker crouching down in the camera store
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1573955/1
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I’ve got the 35. It’s my favourite focal length. 24 can only be pre-order at the moment. I’m interested but it’ll have to drop in price 1st.
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I have the 35, 50, and 85 and I'm enjoying all 3. Not sure I'll get the 24 but I'm definitely looking for the 20mm
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Is the sharpness of the 35 and 85 as good as the 50
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Stumbled across this which I found interesting as their results tie in a lot more with my own findings regarding the 24-70mm f4, and most of the users on here, that it is a surprisingly sharp lens and better than the 24-70mm f2.8 G lenses.
I must admit that I have found these guys more reliable than DXO over the past 12-18 months.
https://photographylife.com/reviews/nikon-z7/4
I must admit that I have found these guys more reliable than DXO over the past 12-18 months.
https://photographylife.com/reviews/nikon-z7/4
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For those that have the 50mm f1.8 S and previously the 50mm f1.8g how're you finding it in terms of rendering? I know the S version is insanely sharp but I do like the rendering of the G version. My worry is that some lenses are getting too clinical looking, and I've not seen image variation to build a good picture of the S version.
These are about the best examples I've found, the subject isolation and illusive 'depth' to the 'portrait' shots in the first link seems quite extreme and dare I say it Leica like
https://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/nikon_z_50mm_f1_8_s_review/sample_images
https://photographylife.com/reviews/nikon-z-50mm-f1-8-s/5
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Another example of the depth and isolation I'm referring to can be seen on this page, the biker crouching down in the camera store
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1573955/1
I have them both. If you want I can do some comparisons...just let me know what kind.
Got the 35mm s and love it. Tempted to go for the 24 and the 50 but I use the 24-70 F2.8 and it stays on my camera virtually all the time....
I don’t think quite as sharp, but all perform better than the more expensive F mount 1.4s I believe.
The 24 is supposed to be close to the 50.
I think Nikon Ricci on YouTube does fair comparisons. Even though employed (I think) by Nikon, they are just straight up comparisons.
I like photography life also.
I only have the 24-70/4 at the moment, but I think what Nikon is doing with lenses is good. The Z f4s and 1.8s having higher performance than the F 2.8s and 1.4s for less money. Unless you need 2.8 it’s not a bad deal.
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Thanks that’d be great, I’ll post some examples of the type of shot I’d like to compare when I’m back on the computer.
Why isn’t it good? Surely you want new lenses to supersede old ones? I’d personally be disappointed if they didn’t, but seeing how the first lot of s-line lenses are turning out I’m really excited to see what the future lenses are like. I’m expecting the 70-200mm to be pretty special. Only trouble is that it’ll be beyond my price range, and they’ve stuck with the idiotic arrangement of the focus/zoom ring that they changed with the e version.
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Pixel peeping reviews suggest the 35 and 85 are slightly behind the 50 as far as sharpness is concerned. I have to say I've used the 50mm a lot more as I got it soonest, but I'm not noticing that much difference sharpness wise in normal use.
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Honestly I think the 70-200vrii I have might be the one lens I don't swap out for an S lens. It's that good and if they've swapped the zoom/focus like they did with the newer f mount then I might just pass. The vrii works fantastically on the Z6
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I’m on a laggy iPad and it’s doing some weird autocorrect. I missed that one. After editing 10 others.
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I love the VRII. My only gripes with it on the Z is that the lens VR is always active so drains the battery quicker, and with the adapter it does feel a touch nose heavy.
Yeah I’m sure it will. Same as the 14-24/2.8 S. I think I read the 24-70/2.8 S is like a prime all the way through the range. I don’t understand the zoom placement, when you tend to support the lens close to the body. With AF I don’t really see why you would need the focus ring closest, cant see manual focus being used that much. I’m sure a lot weren’t happy about it when they released that version, so wonder why they’ve stuck with it. Was it something to do with lens design and the focus breathing of the VRII.
I like the design of the Canon RF 70-200, but seems like a lot are concerned about dust being an issue.
Ive got a new 70-200 f4 so at least there isn’t one on the road map, I might get chance to use it before there’s a Z mount version. Ive had it a year and not used it.
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How can you say without having used it? I like the look of the images I've seen from that 50mm 1.8 S, but I've seen equally as good from the old reliable 50mm 1.8G too, really depends on the person shooting with them. As always. One is 1/3 the price, at least, of the other though. Is the S 3 times better?
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A couple from the 'People's Vote' rally on the 19th October. Not great photos, when the speeches were happening I was pretty well penned in making any kind of creativity a bit difficult. The first is the crowd's reaction to the Letwin Amendment passing (Z6, Sigma 12-24), the second is Sandi Toksvig (85mm f/1.8 G) as I quite liked the framing.
DSC_1116e by Chris Willetts, on Flickr
DSC_1140e by Chris Willetts, on Flickr
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Trouble is the S is at a great price at the moment that why people interested.
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I do share a similar concern. Whilst undoubtedly the new Z lenses are super sharp acrosss the frame they are very sigma art like with edge to edge sharpness but a more clinical rendering.For those that have the 50mm f1.8 S and previously the 50mm f1.8g how're you finding it in terms of rendering? I know the S version is insanely sharp but I do like the rendering of the G version. My worry is that some lenses are getting too clinical looking, and I've not seen image variation to build a good picture of the S version.
These are about the best examples I've found, the subject isolation and illusive 'depth' to the 'portrait' shots in the first link seems quite extreme and dare I say it Leica like
https://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/nikon_z_50mm_f1_8_s_review/sample_images
https://photographylife.com/reviews/nikon-z-50mm-f1-8-s/5
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Another example of the depth and isolation I'm referring to can be seen on this page, the biker crouching down in the camera store
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1573955/1
Recently I have started to favour character over clinical rendering which is why I’m struggling with the Z lens road selection.
I don’t see the 3d effect in the images you’ve linked to at least not like say the 58 1.4G or 105 1.4 F mount lenses.
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That's the price I'm going by still 3x the price of a good used 50 1.8G. Don't get me wrong, if I switched to a Z the 50 1.8 S is a lens I'd fancy, but knowing I can get 'almost' as good for much less? I'm talking as someone who does not mind adapting lenses whatsoever. You will get those who just want native only no matter the cost.
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I don't know the reason, but I'm surprised they've stuck with it considering the fallout from the last one. I don't know if there's a technical reason or stubbornness
don’t have to shoot with it, to my eye it renders much nicer (better depth) and it’s definitely sharper wide open. I’ve used many 50 1.8g and they never looked as good. Is it worth 2x or 3x as much used? To me, definitely.
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I'd love to see side by side samples between them, must have a look out of curiosity. I think there might be a slight placebo effect at work
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Thanks again for the offer. Not the most exciting pics, but I love the 3D/depth to these. I'm not sure everyone sees what I see, but it's the kind of depth where I feel like I could reach in and pick the cars up, if that makes any sense?
NZ7_1291 by TDG-77, on Flickr
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Nostalgia! I used to rally in a couple of Mk.1 Escorts (not at the same time!). Never in a Ferrari, thank goodness.Thanks again for the offer. Not the most exciting pics, but I love the 3D/depth to these. I'm not sure everyone sees what I see, but it's the kind of depth where I feel like I could reach in and pick the cars up, if that makes any sense?
No placebo, the S looks really good, the G is alright for the money.
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