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My sentiment exactly..... With some wildlife you can never have too much reach and the flexibility of zoom is very valuable.
My sentiment exactly..... With some wildlife you can never have too much reach and the flexibility of zoom is very valuable.
Keep watching ,reading and absorbing Malcolm , changed tack about 10 times today ,the one thing I can’t get a answer with is pro cap they all say it does it but no one will answer on pro.cap low ,the real game changer
Keep watching ,reading and absorbing Malcolm , changed tack about 10 times today ,the one thing I can’t get a answer with is pro cap they all say it does it but no one will answer on pro.cap low ,the real game changer
Chris Nicholls at DPreview only semi impressed.
Can't see anyone with the Leica 100-400mm changing for this. (apart from @the black fox )
View: https://youtu.be/K9-EZsb-J90
I think it a case of can you live without 600mm FOV at f4 when i bought my Sony a7r4 and 200/600 f6.3 I kept my Olympus kit for quite a while as it meant i could stay out about 40 mins longer, for Owls that can mean getting a shot or Not as the light fades.
The iso noise is very close with the 60mp a7r4 and EM1x even though it's FF v m43 My a9mkII FF is about 2 stops better hence why FF can sometimes be a little misleading .I'm interested in this, as there is a general rule of thumb that there is about a 2 stop advantage in quality for FF over M43, I would have thought that the low light advantage (albeit small) would have been with the Sony as he increase in ISO needed for the smaller aperture, would be offset by the larger sensor.
Unless I've misunderstood, you seem to have found the advantage lay with the Olympus, is that correct.
Actually, I think I should edit this, as the differences do seem to dwindle at higher ISOs, so maybe in low light it makes sense that M43 might well have an advantage, still interested in your experiences however.
cross that bridge if I can raise the fundsRef: 100-400mm
If you are going to own this one you will need to update your various bodies firmware
OM SYSTEM Cameras, Lenses, Audio & Binoculars
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Ref: 100-400mm
If you are going to own this one you will need to update your various bodies firmware
OM SYSTEM Cameras, Lenses, Audio & Binoculars
www.olympus-europa.com
The iso noise is very close with the 60mp a7r4 and EM1x even though it's FF v m43 My a9mkII FF is about 2 stops better hence why FF can sometimes be a little misleading .
Rob
Re: new Olympus 100-400mm
If this had been out when I was looking for more reach than the 40-150 f2.8 gives me I would likely have bought it and not the 300mm.
Having read Petr Bambousek's (whose opinions I value & respect) the new lens is in its class quite a performer.
So, for me I will stick with my 300mm because that would have to be sold if 'wished' to get the 100-400mm.............future???
I found up to 800 iso all 3 cameras were close enough to not have any fear of noise being bad and I rarely go above that
3200 and 6400 started to show the a9mkII was getting ahead .
Yes, that's the important bit, its not so much whether something is slightly better, but more about things being "fit for purpose".
With reference to the new Oly 100-400mm, I've been looking for a while at the Panasonic 100-400 and slowly saving up for that one.
With the Oly now an option I'm thinking it's finally time to part with my Nikon gear or more to the point the Tamron 150-600mm VC and the 70-300mm Vr. Then I'll not be too far off the price of this and only have to put a little to it.
I think I've now decided the panasonic is no longer on my radar but the Oly most definately is. Time to get the Nikon stuff up for sale, which gives me a few weeks before the Oly actually goes on sale. [emoji41]
I haven't used pro-capture myself yet but for wildlife it could be a winner; therefore a big plus point for the Olympus versus the Panasonic. Still there's the extra length and weight, though.
I think I'd have the ideal matched lens set up. I have the E-M1mkii with the 12-100 f4 pro so this would give me 12-400mm in 2 lenses. Add a 1.4x TC and that makes a light-ish kit to lug around (especially at the side of the Nikon)..... I am confident that you will have absolutely no regrets. I moved from Canon, both D-SLR and mirrorless with big supertelephoto L lenses, and much as I loved my Canons I am much more enabled with the Olympus system. I no longer have to decide which lenses have to stay at home when I go out for a long day.
robin as you already have the t.c's its a no brainer go for it.... I haven't used Pro Capture yet either. Shame on me after 8 months!
Surely the extra weight compared with the Panasonic is negligable and it's more about the physical balance with the body you mount it on?
Length? - I think that too is negligable but of course what suits YOU best is only something which you can decide.
I've been in touch with HDEW this morning. They say that they are usually a bit behind the general release but stock is expected in by mid-September. Hopefully it will be cheaper there.just been on a zoom meeting on the e.group forum hosted by mark Thackera head of olympus u.k he said supplies should be hitting the shops by around the 17th august .. the deal breaker for me is pro-cap low as that opens up so many possibilities . time will tell
I've been in touch with HDEW this morning. They say that they are usually a bit behind the general release but stock is expected in by mid-September. Hopefully it will be cheaper there.
Surely the extra weight compared with the Panasonic is negligable and it's more about the physical balance with the body you mount it on?
Length? - I think that too is negligable but of course what suits YOU best is only something which you can decide.
The extra length and weight are because it is designed to take the teleconvertersThe Panasonic is 34 mm shorter (1.36 inches) and 135 gm lighter (about 5 oz) lighter; those dimensions are not massively different but it might make a difference to some people. If I were buying now I'd probably go for the Olympus and I may even swap at some time in the future. I thought I'd gone beyond all this chopping and changing gear! (As if......!)
Presumably the Olympus designers were told to come up with something that would out-perform the Panasonic and this is what they came up with. You've got to hand it to them.
It’s worse for me I have the PL 100-400 , there’s a few advantages with the new lens but is it worth the hassle to gain a incremental increase , yes it’s been tested by reviewers world wide ,but only someone that’s LEARNED the PL will be able to give a fair answer as to better or worseIt’s a real conundrum. I have the OLYMPUS 300f4 And use it with converters. Very pleased with the results. But the thought of the 100-400 in such a lightweight package is very tempting. Only problem is that I would need to sell the 300 and it’s a very fine lens. Might need to sit it out for a while and watch the reviews flood in.