Shoudl I buy a superzoom? Dare I say it? YES!

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Many of you will remember my enduring dilemma while choosing a camera - and a super zoom lens. During that time, I received a mix of advice from 'don't do it, they're crap' to 'well, it depends'.

For anyone on the receiving end of this confusing debate - I though I'd help you out by posting my take after a few months playing with the Sigma 18-250 (and Canon 600d) after months of deliberation.

It is TRUE that some cheaper, third party super zooms are absolute rubbish, particularly the older Sigma and Tameron models (older 18-200s for example).

It is also TRUE that any super zoom will not produce the same optical results as top of the line professional equipment, which is why pro photographers and semi-pros tend to hate them. Which if photography is your profession and you've got big money to spend, is perfectly understandable.

It is NONSENSE that if you are just starting out and you've opted for a Super-zoon, it has to be a Canon or a Nikon! They are far more expensive and as a beginner you really won't see the difference.

The Sigma 18-250 HSM Macro model is, for £350, an absolute beauty. It's very fast (other than in very low light). Considering the saving, sharpness is superb. Distortion is minimal (unless you are putting images under a microscope). I tent to avoid going wide open at 18mm as that's really the only time my images have looked any less that satisfying. At 20mm plus they are as good as the photographer behind the camera. At the long end they are still good, even when compared to much more expensive lenses I've tried so far. It's also light, robust and of course, one lens does it all (which makes it a truly awesome travel lens, even for the enthusiast).

Now that I've gained a bit of experience, I agree with all those on here who told me that good photography is much more about technique than equipment. You can take a stunning picture with any lens if you know what you're doing. You just learn to work with the limitations of what you've got, and when you can't do that and it really counts, you buy something better.

A point worthy of special mention is the Macro is astoundingly good, if you consider that we are talking about an 18-250 zoom lens!:)

So if you've been agonizing with the super-zoom debate, fear not. For all but pixel peepers and serious professional photographers, The Sigma 18-250 really does it all!

Here's some example shots:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/o9p5n0043za0vl7/bird-1.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/eotfuxtpmbum1ia/IMG_6244.JPG
 
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Some good points, well made but that photo of a bee isn't really a shining example to illustrate the point - it is rather blurry, probably from camera shake by the looks of things (although I can't quickly see the exif data - if it isn't that then the lens is soooooooooooooooooft!).
 
Yep...fair point - perhaps not the best example. I do have some much brighter, sharper images. Will post some...
 
Some good points, well made but that photo of a bee isn't really a shining example to illustrate the point - it is rather blurry, probably from camera shake by the looks of things (although I can't quickly see the exif data - if it isn't that then the lens is soooooooooooooooooft!).

How would you tell the difference between camera shake and a soft lens? More likely camera shake I'd say! Oh yes - forgot - OS is pretty good too!
 
Camera shake - you need to know the shutter speed, focal length and focal distance. As you said, it's about the photographer knowing the limitations of the kit and subject.

That second image looks much better although it is much less of a challenge to the lens than the macro one. Still, it looks pretty sharp with good acuity - each person has a nice distinct edge, nice view too :)
 
As you rightly point out an 18-250 isn't going to win prizes in the ultimate IQ department compared with top flight glass., but that isn't really the point of these lenses, they provide a convenient do-it-all solution for occasions when you don't want to carry a bagful of lenses like a family holiday. I have some decent glass but from what I've seen I would be happy to stuff this in a pocket on holiday. There can be an awful lot of snobbery in photography, the final arbiter is are you happy with the images it gives you then fine, you do not have to pander to gear snobs.
 
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After a less than good experience with an older superzoom, I've avoided them but after being rather impressed with the one on a bridge, I forked out a small fortune (OK, only £200!) on a Tamron 18-270 to pair with my old D70 as a travel DSLR. Not had a real test session yet, just a quick play but so far it seems OK for the purpose it was bought for. Not expecting razor sharpness or lack of CA but we'll see...
The lightness of this setup is certainly worth a shot and if it's not up to scratch, I don't think I'll lose out too much should I shift the lens on.
 
There can be an awful lot of snobbery in photography, the final arbiter is are you happy with the images it gives you then fine, you do not have to pander to gear snobs.

I wouldn't say there has been that much snobbery when super zooms are discussed (but I wouldn't dispute it definitely exists amongst many photographers).

The most common statement I've noticed is more of a value argument. Looking at the samples here they do nothing to further the super zoom argument, they are dull and lack sharpness.

The OP (and anyone in the same position) could spend less money and go for an 18-55IS and 55-250IS duo which would easily surpass the IQ of a super zoom and would together weigh a similar amount as well.
 
The OP (and anyone in the same position) could spend less money and go for an 18-55IS and 55-250IS duo which would easily surpass the IQ of a super zoom and would together weigh a similar amount as well.

That's the way I would go with a small budget, should imagine it would actually be much cheaper than the sigma option as well.
 
I have owned two superzooms, a Tamron 18-200 (which did not impress me) and a Tamron 18-250 which is OK. It meets my needs (web and prints up to 10x8) when I have to travel real light and will be basically shooting in reasonable light levels. They can be very versatile lenses.
I do own a number of other lenses (including fast primes) as well.
 
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Looking at the samples here they do nothing to further the super zoom argument, they are dull and lack sharpness.

Dave 1, I think you'll find that's me rather than the lens. You can take a razor sharp shot with this lens. I've not long started out and still getting to grips with the basics. So you can't expect incredible results - but for what I need at this stage in my photography, it represents excellent value.

The fact that you can do so much with this one lens is also great as a beginner. When you don't yet know your aperture from your shutter speed, do you want to be changing lenses all the time? No, particularly when on the move a lot. The versatility of this means also means you can try out every possible scenario with this one lens, which when it's all new to you is a real plus. I was not in any way deputing the disadvantages if you are a professional (or looking for perfection). That said, in the right hands I think you could still get some fantastic shots with this.

There is a lot more to photography that meets the eye. It's a steep learning curve that's for sure. One thing I notice is my images are getting better all the time and quite rapidly as I gain experience. Suggests to me that those soft spots are not the lens!
 
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The only superzoom I've tried that I thought was ok was the Canon 35-350, especially when on a full frame camera. The trouble is at either end of the scale they aren't as good as the lenses more dedicated to that range, but as a single, walkabout lens it works quite well (apart from the size and weight :D )

It's not exactly unnoticeable either so using it for street photography etc is difficult
 
I think the statement about being dull etc is a little harsh as the beach one could easily be brightened up and more vibrant.

For the money and ease of use when you cant carry multiple lens or don't want to be changing etc i think it looks a good buy
 
- but for what I need at this stage in my photography, it represents excellent value.

I would suggest it represents practicality, and possibly simplicity of use but not value.

A person looking for value for money would find the 18-55/55-250 combination far better value.

Looking at Amazon for price comparisons, the Sigma 18-250 is £320, most people will have got the 18-55 with their camera and the 55-250 is £159. So, to the average user, the Sigma is going to cost them an extra £160.

Even adding the price of the 18-55 in at £101, the duo is still far cheaper.

So, simplicity and practicality for the type of user unwilling or unable to change lenses? Yes. Value for money? No.
 
I would suggest it represents practicality, and possibly simplicity of use but not value.

A person looking for value for money would find the 18-55/55-250 combination far better value.

Looking at Amazon for price comparisons, the Sigma 18-250 is £320, most people will have got the 18-55 with their camera and the 55-250 is £159. So, to the average user, the Sigma is going to cost them an extra £160.

Even adding the price of the 18-55 in at £101, the duo is still far cheaper.

So, simplicity and practicality for the type of user unwilling or unable to change lenses? Yes. Value for money? No.

I agree, that is a pretty amazing deal for the 600d and the two lenses. But it's not what I wanted, because of the stage I was at and the situation I would be using my camera in.

I suppose the bottom line is - it depends what you want to do, or in my case, what you don't want to do...
 
The OP (and anyone in the same position) could spend less money and go for an 18-55IS and 55-250IS duo which would easily surpass the IQ of a super zoom

A person looking for value for money would find the 18-55/55-250 combination far better value.

Looking at Amazon for price comparisons, the Sigma 18-250 is £320, most people will have got the 18-55 with their camera and the 55-250 is £159. So, to the average user, the Sigma is going to cost them an extra £160.

Even adding the price of the 18-55 in at £101, the duo is still far cheaper.

So, simplicity and practicality for the type of user unwilling or unable to change lenses? Yes. Value for money? No.

The combination may well be cheaper than the Sigma, but is their IQ better? Have you actually compared them yourself or are you simply applying the 'usual' superzooms-are-a-compromise-so-the-IQ-can't-be-too-good argument?
 
The combination may well be cheaper than the Sigma, but is their IQ better? Have you actually compared them yourself or are you simply applying the 'usual' superzooms-are-a-compromise-so-the-IQ-can't-be-too-good argument?

Nope, I'm comparing them by looking at images the OP posted, images others have posted, the images and reviews at photozone, the images and reviews at DPReview, the reviews at ephotozine as well as what I've read elsewhere.

I've yet to see any reviewer say the 18-250 is anything but a good super zoom (and made the caveat about the compromises of super zooms), and have never seen one where the 18-250 has been found to be better than the 55-250.

Perhaps I've missed something and you'd like to link to it?
 
I have a Tamron 28-300 which I use a lot when I am out walking with the family. It is soft at 300 but for normal pics quite acceptable.

It means that all I have to carry is the camera with lens attached and a few filters in my pocket.

I then have room to carry the rucksack with the food in case we are hungry, the groundsheets in case its damp, the sun cream in case its sunny, the extra jumpers & coats in case its cold, the waterproofs in case it rains, all the books in case we see a bird/tree/plant/mammal, the maps in case we get lost etc etc
 
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