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Good find, I hope they ironed out all the Merrill issues... but i doubt it, wait and see I guess. Looks like something Id hoped Canikon would develop, mirrorless with a 'normal' mount. Wouldve been better if they extended the grip imo, hate dangly fingers. Oh and FF wouldve been nice.
 
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twist said:
Good find, I hope they ironed out all the Merrill issues... but i doubt it, wait and see I guess. Looks like something Id hoped Canikon would develop, mirrorless with a 'normal' mount. Wouldve been better if they extended the grip imo, hate dangly fingers. Oh and FF wouldve been nice.
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I've only half followed developments but I assume that higher ISO quality, speed of operation and battery life may be areas to look at, maybe processing too.

For quality from a smallish package I'd expect this to be a formidable system, if you can live with any quirks.
 
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I've only half followed developments but I assume that higher ISO quality, speed of operation and battery life may be areas to look at, maybe processing too.

For quality from a smallish package I'd expect this to be a formidable system, if you can live with any quirks.
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Yeah, pretty much everything except image quality at low ISO needed to be sorted. ISO, AF, Battery life, speed, processing is a huge problem imo.

The older DPMs also offer fantastic IQ for very little money (they used to be very expensive). If I was into landscapes Id probably consider one.
 
The APS-H version + adapted medium format lenses (for movements) = affordable version of the Alpa/Phase One collab? Shame they didn't add a changeable mount, being able to adapt any lens to it would have been great.
 
Loved the IQ for every Sigma camera I've owned (DP1, DP1s, DP2,DP2M) but every time Sigma Photo Pro has driven me nuts. If Sigma could at least stop it crashing every 2 minutes, I'd definitely give one of these a try.
 
paulcamcas said:
Loved the IQ for every Sigma camera I've owned (DP1, DP1s, DP2,DP2M) but every time Sigma Photo Pro has driven me nuts. If Sigma could at least stop it crashing every 2 minutes, I'd definitely give one of these a try.
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I sort of gravitated into the Sigma world with a bit of dread having heard about all these problems with SPP - but have to say that apart from speed I've found the versions of SPP that I've used over the last two and a bit years to be OK as far as stability is concerned (I started with 5.5.3 and moved to 6.1).
 
with the DPM's you just need a pocket full of batteries and a leisurely shooting style - they are good for "specialised" shots
 
Dryce said:
I sort of gravitated into the Sigma world with a bit of dread having heard about all these problems with SPP - but have to say that apart from speed I've found the versions of SPP that I've used over the last two and a bit years to be OK as far as stability is concerned (I started with 5.5.3 and moved to 6.1).
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As soon as I saw the news of these new cameras I downloaded the latest version of SPP (more in hope than anticipation) but sadly on my machine it was as flaky as before.
 
Dryce said:
I sort of gravitated into the Sigma world with a bit of dread having heard about all these problems with SPP - but have to say that apart from speed I've found the versions of SPP that I've used over the last two and a bit years to be OK as far as stability is concerned (I started with 5.5.3 and moved to 6.1).
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That's been my experience too. I use a Mac and did have a few problems with it crashing in the early days, but since upgrading to v 6 and above it's been pretty stable (slow, but stable!). The results more than justify any inconvenience though as they're unlike anything else.
 
magicolor1 said:
That's been my experience too. I use a Mac and did have a few problems with it crashing in the early days, but since upgrading to v 6 and above it's been pretty stable (slow, but stable!). The results more than justify any inconvenience though as they're unlike anything else.
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True enough about the results. I must try a bit harder, it may be something else I'm running on my Mac not playing nicely.
 
the physical design is terrible, god knows what their designers hands look like
 
I just use the Sigma software to convert their RAW's to .tiff - then into LR/PS
 
Dryce said:
I use my three DPMs as a travel kit. Urban and landscapes.
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how many batters do you have?

I have 5 - good for 250 shots if you are lucky



I have a 1 and a 3 .......... I use the 1, (50mm = 75mm) ...... most of the time, even for panos which I stitch

ISO - i rarely go above ISO 200 ... so that is also limiting
 
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BillN_33 said:
how many batters do you have?

I have 5 - good for 250 shots if you are lucky
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10 total - 6 originals and 4 third party.

I rarely need more than 6 for a full day. The most I've gone is 8. Charging is IME the real hassle - needing say 4 to be fuily charged and 2 partially charged for the next day while travelling means having to make sure that I don't forget to start the process as soon as I get an opportunuity.

I reckon on 50 to 70 shots per battery.



I have a 1 and a 3 .......... I use the 1, (50mm = 75mm) ...... most of the time, even for panos which I stitch
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I acquired a 3 first as an experiment - then snapped up a 1 after liking the 3 - and then a few months later acquired a 2.

I use all for panos. While the 3 was the original choice it's now the 1 and 2 that get most use. I have an L bracket permantly attached to the 2 so it can be mounted on rotating pano head.

ISO - i rarely go above ISO 200 ... so that is also limiting
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Likewise. I'll go up to ISO800 for colour only if I have to. 1600 for mono.

But. I find that the cameras have very little shutter vibration so can be handheld or used on a light tripod quite easily. I will hand hold and take multiple shots down to 1/13 to 1/25 - and I often carry a very light tripod. I find that the biggest problem with low light is that Sigma sensors don't handle bright lights in the frame as well as other sensors.

I sometimes use a little Jessops Tecno 20 flash with the 2 and 3. I'm starting to think about getting something more sophisticated to use for occasional fill.

I take fewer shots with the DPMs than with my DSLRs but I also get a lot more keepers. I make up a year book of 80 to 100 pages each year and I've found that the DPMs dominate - about 80% of the shots I put in it are from the DPMs.

So in my case the DPMs are the general use cameras now and it's the DSLRs that get carried for specific purposes.
 
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Just saw this, could be great. I love my dp3 merrill. Now if Sigma can make me feel like I'm not a masochist when I use this they could be onto something big.
 
fyi there is or was a quad battery charger, ive got one :), can charge off usb , so i can do 7 sigma batteries at once with that and my 3 oem chargers
 
I'm interested too, my trio of Merrills are fantastic and this seems to address some of their short comings.
The worrying thing for me is adopting Sigma 35mm glass, it just makes the thing appear huge even with the Sigma primes fitted let alone the zooms (like the 24-35).
I think I would have to have a good play with one and then there's the ticket price, whatever that might be :confused:
 
BillN_33 said:
how many batters do you have?
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Six batteries between two Merrills, but I also have a tethered USB powerbank option as well.
 
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