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guys i was looking at buyin a new camera and thought i had decided on the nikon 90d. but now thinking on it i wonder should i spend less to see how i get on. the two under the 90d i was looking at was the canon 450d and the nikon 60d (i think thats it) as these seem to be the cameras under the 90d range of the market. would this be the correct way to go and then in a year or two if im using it alot upgrade then?
 
with regards to choosing a camera, go into a shop and try them out. No point getting a camera then realising you dont like it, or can't grip it properly etc.

About upgrading in a year or two. There's no need to upgrade your camera unless your finding yourself limited with the camera you have. Buying better and faster lenses is always a better choice :)
 
thats the think i think in the lower price range i liked the canon 450d but it the next bracket above i liked the nikon 90d(could get a hold of the canon equivilant). its just i dont know if i should spend a load of money on the 90d or spend less and get the 450d and then in a couple of years if im really into it them buy a better one?
 
I think that you should stick with the initial thoughts about the Nikon D90 as opposed to the D60, for the sole reason that the D60 has no internal motor to drive the lenses and so is limited to the lenses you can use with it. With the D90 you can choose from Nikon's full range of lenses for it.

I say this because I thought it wouldn't matter and made that mistake. Bought the D60's predecessor (D40X) and then had to upgrade the body to buy the lenses I wanted. Upshot being it cost much more money to do that.
 
just the worry is i will spend £750-800 on a d90 which im a little worried i wont use to its full extent but i could buy the canon 450d (think im off the d60 as i didnt like the feel of it) for £500 and would do me jst as well for being the 1st digital SLR
 
The D60 and 450D are very similar cameras, although the 450D has the edge in terms of max ISO and pixcel count. Both are slightly older technology but are still very usable and capable cameras. I still use my Canon 350D from time to time which is older still than the 450D.

As Jamie said you need to hold the cameras, some people prefer one brand over the other but I do not see any huge difference.

Just remember you are buying into a system and switching at a later date once you have accumulated a bag of bits can be expensive. If I were starting again I would research second hand prices for accessories and lenses and buy into the system with best availability of low cost second hand lenses, flashes and other bits.
 
I don't know of the Nikon Cameras, but I did have a 400D and have now upgraded to a 40D. I did this partly as the 400d felt small in my hands, image quality wise I've noticed much difference and if you are just starting I'm not sure you would either.

IMHO you should see what syle of body suits you better, in canon's case the XXd v XXd range (I'm sure Nikon has the same range).

You are much better off even getting an older camera even like a 20d for example and spending the money saved on better lenses, as the lenses will make the real difference to your images, and quite often hold their value better than the camera bodies should you wish to resale at some point.

It's hard when you are buying a new camera, and by the time you have just about made your mind up a new version has just come out. But don't forget that what was the latest camera 3 years ago has not become a bad camera now...

Good luck!
 
The best bet is to buy something that will still have a desirability factor when you have either moved on or upgraded.

Buying the cheapest is not necessarily going to be the cheapest deal in the long run and may actually put you off photography for good!

In the Canon range, look to buy the 30d or better still the 40d. The 30d is starting to show it's age, but the 40d can still give the 50d a run for its money.

Be patient for the right deal. About £300 for the 30d and £450 for the 40d. I don't think you will go wrong with either one second hand if you buy a well cared for example.

Good luck.
Graham
 
aerodynamic18 said:
just the worry is i will spend £750-800 on a d90 which im a little worried i wont use to its full extent but i could buy the canon 450d (think im off the d60 as i didnt like the feel of it) for £500 and would do me jst as well for being the 1st digital SLR
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If you have the money - spend it. The camera will always have resale value.
 
IMHO you would be better saving for a good camera or you migth regret it in the long term, unless you want to buy a intermediate or a pro series down the road, no need to have two cameras that are similar, anyway what is really important is the lens you will get, and Nikon has a good range of lens, as well some tamrons will work with your Nikon, maybe ask your distributor for the range of lens you can have with the camera, but the D60 won't give you the range of lens the D90 will allow you to have, BTW, D90's all have the CMOS and AF, which is really good and differentiate it from the D60, And if live view interests you the D90 has it (even if it's not really up to the point).

If you want to go for Cannon and lower prices, check out the EOS XS or XSI, but you can't got wrong with the D90 IMHO.

Max.
 
The most important thing for me is to remember you are buying into a system, it's not just the body that you should be concerned with. It's the lenses, flashes etc that work with that system.

Do you have any friends with cameras?? If so this provides you with an option of borrowing each others equipment, which is always a consideration!

I know I started a thread on here when I first joined and I have seen countless others on here since about upgrade paths and nearly everyone says it is better to upgrade the lens you are using than the body. I have a Canon 30D and have upgraded to some expensive canon 'L' glass, and my results have improved considerably, much more than if I had bought another body.

If I were you and if I had my time over again, I would initially buy a good used second hand body, and to be honest if you were thinking of doing this a Canon 30D wouldn't be such a bad choice! It's a nice size and weight, magnesium body and a solid feeling camera. Nikon wise a D80 may be a good choice as a comparable camera and if you were to buy used then you will not lose a huge amount of money if you decide photography is not for you and sell up.

In terms of not using all a cameras functions, only you yourself know what type of person you are and whether you have the time to learn. If you feel as though you are not going to bother learning about Aperture, Shutter Speed, Depth of Field, ISO and their relationships then my advice would be don't waste your money on a DSLR at all, as it would be like owning a sports car and not taking it out of first gear! If on the other hand you like learning new things, keep reading and posting on the forum (it has some amazing photographers) buy one and jump in - the waters lovely!

Welcome to the world of photography, it's addictive and a licence to spend all your spare cash!!!!!

Hope this helps and let us know how you go on!
 
Another vote for a second hand 40D from me. I did buy the 450D, and it's an excellent camera. For the same price you can have a used 40D which is better all round.
 
I'm adding my vote to the 'buy second hand' camp, only I'll recomend the Nikon D80 because I've had one.

Most people don't stick with the 1st dSLR body that they buy for very long. It's not until you start using one that you discover what features/abilities are important to you. If you buy second hand and then realise it's not what you wanted, you won't loose much when you sell it on.
 
aberal said:
If you have the money - spend it. The camera will always have resale value.
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It's all wrong.
That is I think I disagree.
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The camera body has resale, but not so much. Lenses have much better resale.

And I would suggest that you shift you budget allocations to allow for the fact that pretty much all bodies will deliver something worthwhile, but that the lenses are what make things really possible. Then think about flash and tripod - depending on the sort of things you think you will want to take pictures of. If you say more about what sort of things you want to do, then people can make more detailed suggestions.

Any DSLR will take good pictures.
 
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