1. wazy15

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    Some stunning images, very impressive. After been away from Sony for a while and playing around with Fuji, missed the extra detail and low light performance of the A7R II, so rebuilding back into the A7 system. Purchased a used 24-70 2.8 G master, just need to buy a new camera to use it on :D

    Was looking at panamoz and see the difference on there between the III and r III is £300, a lot less then the UK difference between the models. Its temping going for the R but I know I won't shoot anything at the increased resolution very often!

    Can anyone recommend a good wide angle, I recall using the Sony 16-35 F4 a lot which was good, but been away from Sony for a while so keen to know if theres anything else you guys would recommended?
     
  2. twist

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    There's also a 2.8 now if you need it.
     
  3. yamahatdm900

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    Dont we all, funny enough it was the weight of the X-H1 that got me thinking about the switch. For the lenses I wanted there is not a lot in it.

    My got to kit on Fuji was
    Fuji X-H1 - 673g. (if you shoot the X-T2 its 507g)
    Fuji 16-55 f2.8 - 655g
    Fuji 10-24 - 410g
    And either the 55-200 - 580g or if there was a chance of wildlife and I was walking for miles the 100-400 - 1,375g

    So roughly 2138g with the 55-200 or 3133g with the 100-400.

    Now its

    Sony A7R3 - 657g
    Sony 24-105 f4 - 663g
    Zeiss Loxia 21mm f2.8 - 394g
    Either a Olympus 200m f4 prime - 625g with adaptor or the 100-400 - 1,395 g

    So roughly 2235 g with the 200mm or 3,009 with the 100-400.
    Its not a totally fair comparison because with the Sony Ive only go down to 21mm and on the lightweight telephoto only to 200mm, but for me the 21mm and the 24-105 covers approx 95% of my shots.

    I do have the Loawa 15mm f2 which I sometimes take instead of the 21mm which does add another 100g.

    Obviously with the Fuji you can go a lot lighter with a X-T20, 18-55 and the 14mm f2.8.

    I do miss the handling of the Fuji especially the X-H1 but I do like the extra MP and the increase in DR, the time I really apprecaite the FF is the pre dawn or post sunrise shots.

    Must admit when I looked at the weights of the stuff I wanted I was surprised.
    But then if you want the really fast primes the its a different story.
     
  4. yamahatdm900

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    Thanks Diamonddec.
     
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  5. Mr Perceptive

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    Graham, thanks for the above post, my Fuji kit is a little lighter than yours, you had a heavy body and main zoom lens (that's relatively heavy), and I tend to shoot more with primes, and I love the 35mm FF focal length. I'm leaning towards the GFX at the moment (the new 50R), as there is a vast array of MF manual lenses available, and many FF lenses (Zeiss especially) have a large enough image circle to cover the GFX sensor, as its not hugely bigger than FF, its an itch that I feel needs scratching........

    I've resorted to 9 bracket shooting for sunrise/sunset with the X-T2 and picking a selection of the 9 to merge, I can certainly appreciate the benefits of more DR.
     
  6. yamahatdm900

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    A pleasure David I can totally understand your thinking especially if you shoot mainly with primes. I do like the A7RIII but im not saying never to a GFX in a few years time especially when I use the 100-400 less. :)
     
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  7. LeeRatters

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    Sorry, they are a little similar.....!! Blue hour, nearer sunrise & after sunrise.......

    It was a nice change to shoot something that's only a few miles from home!! Sometimes we forget what is on our doorstep.

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  8. twist

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    Nice
     
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  9. nandbytes

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    New Sony firmware update for A7/RIII.

    One thing caught my attention - "When used with the LA-EA3 mount adaptor, all focus areas are supported.
    Note : Focus Area options added : Zone, Expand Flexible Spot, and Lock-on AF.

    Does that mean all options will also be supported when using a canon EF adapter? Adds almost all native like AF options.

    Anyway will give it a try this evening...
     
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  10. Riz_Guru

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    Sony issued a new major firmware update for the Sony A7III (download here) and Sony A7rIII (download here).

    A7III an A7rIII: Benefits and Improvements from the latest update
    Support of “SEL400F28GM”and “SEL24F14GM”

    • Optimization of the optical image stabilization performance, and addition of a new image stabilization mode of the lens (Mode 3)(Only “SEL400F28GM”).
    • Addition of a Function Ring(Lens) to the menu.
      Note: For the SEL400F28GM lens, the APS-C S35/Full Frame Sel. setting is assignable to the Function Ring in addition to Power Focus.
    • Addition of [Aperture Drive in AF] setting in the menu.
      *Using the lens “SEL400F28GM” or “SEL24F14GM”, when [Silent priority] is selected, the sound emitted by the aperture drive will be reduced. This is useful in shooting conditions where camera.
      noise should be kept to a minimum. Note that Auto Focus may become slower when [Silent priority] is selected.
    New features:

    • [AF Track Sens] can be assigned to a custom key.
    • When used with the LA-EA3 mount adaptor [link to product page], all focus areas are supported.
      Note : Focus Area options added : Zone, Expand Flexible Spot, and Lock-on AF.
      Bracket shooting is available during silent shooting when [File Format] is set to [RAW] or [RAW & JPEG] and [RAW File Type] is set to [Uncompressed].
    Other improvements:

    • Improvement of the performance and the overall stability of the camera.
    • Better reproduction of the gradation of RAW pictures.
      Note: Imaging Edge software needs to be updated to benefit from the improvement in the RAW processing.
    • When shooting with a flash in an environment with flickering light sources, the stability of the exposure is improved.
    • Improvement of managing continuously shot images as a group.
      Please refer to the HelpGuide for updated function usage.
     
  11. twist

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    Cool, thanks. Good to see Sony FW updates.
     
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  12. footman

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    I love my Mac but why do I have to use a Windows machine to do a simple firmware upgrade? Grrrr!

    Thanks for posting info and links anyway:)
     
  13. nandbytes

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    You can firmware update on Mac also
     
  14. footman

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    I know, it just wouldn't work despite me updating everything according to Sony instructions depending on which version of High Sierra I was using. Worked out of the box on my Windows laptop which I have a deep and undying loathing for. Hate it when that happens!
     
  15. Diamonddec

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    Can't see anything worthwhile for me in that firmware update. Essentially just surrounds expensive lenses? Why didn't they address customer complaints like changing the colour of the focus box or implementing an invalometer etc? Fuji would have sorted these and a host of other improvements by now. Sony just want us to buy the next model to get the improvements.... Very poor attitude and customer support compared to Fuji.
     
  16. woof woof

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    Well, just for a bit of balance one could say that Fuji have at times brought (arguably) poorly developed kit to market too soon with sub par focus and buggy feature missing firmware and that they've had a few reliability issues too.

    I'm not being a Sony fan boy here, I'm just pointing out that all is not sweetness and light in either Sony or Fuji land.
     
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  18. twist

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    Try this....

    https://support.d-imaging.sony.co.jp/mac/driver/1013/en/index.html
     
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  19. jonneymendoza

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    damm you beat me to it. i was going to post this too
     
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  20. footman

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  21. Riz_Guru

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    You snooze, you loooze :D lol
     
  22. Gadget-Guy

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    Updated mine during lunch and all focus areas are now working using the Sigma MC11 on the EF16-35 i have on at the mo :D
     
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  23. Diamonddec

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    Snap from kitchen window tonight … A73 with Sony 85mm f1.8 (in crop mode)

    [​IMG]Setting Sun by CFC Photo, on Flickr
     
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  24. woof woof

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    I did a little project for myself of shots through windows, oh er, but not in a sneaky way as they're all from inside looking out.
     
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  25. woof woof

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    With the new high end APS-C possibly on the way and the continued popularity of the A6xxx series I was thinking I should change the thread name to...

    The Amazing Sony FF and APS-C / Anything Else Welcome Mega Thread!

    Unless there are any objections.
     
  26. twist

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    How about Sony Alpha Owners Thread
     
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  27. woof woof

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    Good but surely too mundane with no sense of drama and maybe "users" is more inclusive than "owners" as someone may be using one from work or maybe using their dads kit.

    "The Amazing Sony Alpha Users Mega Thread!"?
     
  28. NewBeetle

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    The all singing, all dancing humdinger Sony Alpha Users Megatastic thread?
     
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    Because Sony Alpha also covers the Sony DSLRs and DSLT models ?
     
  30. KryptoNeo

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    Maybe the Amazing Sony Mirrorless thread?
     
  31. twist

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    Yes
     
  32. Barrysprout

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    But "users" immediately excludes @Riz_Guru but yet he owns more than most of us :D
     
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    Fair comment lol.
    If Sony brings out a APS-C version of the A9 I’m going to get it. :D lol
     
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  34. LeeRatters

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    Thanks you. Was a lovely hour out :)
     
  35. twist

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    Ftfy
     
  36. twist

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    So the new update may stop nandbytes whining...

    The update unlocks all focus area settings with the Metabones. Zone, Expanded flex spot, and Lock-on all work, and work well.

    All focus areas also work now with the MC-11 + Canon.
     
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  37. woof woof

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    I like it but I think that may be too many characters. Sadly.
     
  38. woof woof

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    I forgot the cabinet fillers and gear fondlers.

    So, "The Amazing All Singing, All Dancing Humdinger Sony Alpha Users, Cabinet Fillers and Gear Fondlers Megatastic Thread"?
     
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  39. jonneymendoza

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    That was the case from the last a9 update
     
  40. nandbytes

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    Yep just confirmed it.

    Though that doesn't mean canon and/or Sony a-mount lensesb work as well as native lenses. Also they need to do a LA-EA3 adapter that'll focus Minolta lenses.

    That'll stop me whining :p
     

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