Upgrade to kit lens. & SD Cards

[simonm8]

Looking to upgrade my kit lens I have. Currently using a 18-55 is STM lens and a mk2 55-250. What would be good upgrades on crop body camera. 70d.

Is the tamron 17-50 f2.8 a good upgrade or is there better for same sort of money. Looking at one in classified.

What about the 70-200 f4 (non is). I know is slightly shorter in range.

Are both lenses going to be that much better upgrade

Also what lens would people recommend to cover the range 50-70 that I will be missing

Also looking at 18-135 as a walkabout.

Ideal budget really is £400-£500 mac so would have to be second hand

What the following memory card be ok for the 70d

Sandisk extreme 16gb class 10. Uhs 45mbs

Can't get a few of these new sealed for less then £10 each from a reputable company.

 

[WelshNoob]

Also what lens would people recommend to cover the range 50-70 that I will be missing
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None. Your making the classic mistake of thinking that you need to cover every MM. Use your 50mm and your feet.

 

[sep9001]

Sd card will be fine. With regards to lens, I upgrade from my nikon 18-70 to the tamron 17-50 and am very happy with it.

What do you mainly shoot? This will help people suggest what other lens you need, but I would say upgrade one first and see how it goes.

 

[simonm8]

What do you mainly shoot? This will help people suggest what other lens you need, but I would say upgrade one first and see how it goes.

It's just a hobby for me. So I shot all different. Days out at zoo. Up London on Coast for landscapes. And just general images of son family. And nephew football team. Motor sport event coming up as well.

 

[pjm1]

Looking to upgrade my kit lens I have. Currently using a 18-55 is STM lens and a mk2 55-250. What would be good upgrades on crop body camera. 70d.

Not sure how developed your photography is (pardon the pun) but the best upgrade is usually the person pressing the shutter release... no offence but I nearly made the mistake of buying loads of lenses early on and quickly realised even with a kit lens or two (three?) they are far more accomplished at their job than I am! Concentrate on taking lots of photos... if you need to spend money to travel to get them then so be it. That's a better investment than more glass (especially replacement glass IMO) right now.

Is the tamron 17-50 f2.8 a good upgrade or is there better for same sort of money. Looking at one in classified.

The best upgrade is one which doesn't cost a penny. Do you need better sharpness, a faster lens or the like? I don't know what speed the STM lens is, but for the sake of some ISO I'd be inclined to save £150 right now. You might end up wanting to get a 10-20mm instead in a year's time to give you wider angles. Or even a prime at your favourite f/l.

What about the 70-200 f4 (non is). I know is slightly shorter in range.

Again, do you need a faster or fixed aperture lens? I'd really just stick with what can take pictures and... take pictures!

Also what lens would people recommend to cover the range 50-70 that I will be missing

How many potential photos are you seeing through the viewfinder that you think "I wish I could just zoom in an extra 30%? Not 50% or 100% but just 30%." I'd hazard a guess at "very few". The image quality you'll lose by cropping a 50mm to the equivalent from a 70mm is really pretty insignificant IMO unless you're printing very very large.

Also looking at 18-135 as a walkabout.

This is a popular solution but how about just taking two lenses with you instead? Think about where you'll be walking and the likely shots you'll want to take. My "walkabouts" are either an 18-55 (coincidentally) or a 50-135. In fact, I take over 75% of my pictures with these (helped by the fact the 50-135 is such a lovely lens it's actually sharper than my 50mm f/1.8 prime). But before I go out, I make a conscious decision which will be more useful. I do occasionally swap them, but not as often as you'd think. And both are better at their respective jobs than the equivalent 18-135,

Ideal budget really is £400-£500 mac so would have to be second hand

That's a decent wedge. It'd buy a nice Sigma 150-500mm (SH) or a macro plus an ultra WA. Perhaps hang back and decide what you really want and really need?

Sorry, none of this is meant to sound condescending. It's your money and you can and should spend it however you want. But good lenses are expensive and cheap lenses (except your first ones) are usually a bit of a false economy. So buy them very wisely and carefully. Weigh up which one you really want next and prove to yourself you "need" it through your photos.

How much better will your photos really look by changing from a kit 18-55 to a decent (e.g. Tamron) 17-50? By buying more lenses, you're actually giving yourself more variables to introduce to your photography... this could actually slow down progression and improvement rather than speed it up!

Just my 2p... and sorry for being fortright.

 

[simonm8]

Not sure how developed your photography is (pardon the pun) but the best upgrade is usually the person pressing the shutter release... no offence but I nearly made the mistake of buying loads of lenses early on and quickly realised even with a kit lens or two (three?) they are far more accomplished at their job than I am! Concentrate on taking lots of photos... if you need to spend money to travel to get them then so be it. That's a better investment than more glass (especially replacement glass IMO) right now.


The best upgrade is one which doesn't cost a penny. Do you need better sharpness, a faster lens or the like? I don't know what speed the STM lens is, but for the sake of some ISO I'd be inclined to save £150 right now. You might end up wanting to get a 10-20mm instead in a year's time to give you wider angles. Or even a prime at your favourite f/l.


Again, do you need a faster or fixed aperture lens? I'd really just stick with what can take pictures and... take pictures!


How many potential photos are you seeing through the viewfinder that you think "I wish I could just zoom in an extra 30%? Not 50% or 100% but just 30%." I'd hazard a guess at "very few". The image quality you'll lose by cropping a 50mm to the equivalent from a 70mm is really pretty insignificant IMO unless you're printing very very large.


This is a popular solution but how about just taking two lenses with you instead? Think about where you'll be walking and the likely shots you'll want to take. My "walkabouts" are either an 18-55 (coincidentally) or a 50-135. In fact, I take over 75% of my pictures with these (helped by the fact the 50-135 is such a lovely lens it's actually sharper than my 50mm f/1.8 prime). But before I go out, I make a conscious decision which will be more useful. I do occasionally swap them, but not as often as you'd think. And both are better at their respective jobs than the equivalent 18-135,


That's a decent wedge. It'd buy a nice Sigma 150-500mm (SH) or a macro plus an ultra WA. Perhaps hang back and decide what you really want and really need?

Sorry, none of this is meant to sound condescending. It's your money and you can and should spend it however you want. But good lenses are expensive and cheap lenses (except your first ones) are usually a bit of a false economy. So buy them very wisely and carefully. Weigh up which one you really want next and prove to yourself you "need" it through your photos.

How much better will your photos really look by changing from a kit 18-55 to a decent (e.g. Tamron) 17-50? By buying more lenses, you're actually giving yourself more variables to introduce to your photography... this could actually slow down progression and improvement rather than speed it up!

Just my 2p... and sorry for being fortright.

Thanks for the feedback. Must appreciated. And have me good for thought. What you said is right . Just needed my eyes opening.

 

[pjm1]

No worries and at the end of the day it's your hard earnt cash and your right to spend it however you want! And, coincidentally, I've just bought a Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 lens second hand but to be honest, it's probably the focal length I use 1/3 of the time and also the range I'm least happy with my current kit... it suffers from a lot of CA and isn't very sharp towards the long end. Do I need it? No, but I managed to snag a reasonable bargain and I've been thinking about it for a few months so finally pressed the button.

Definitely have a mental list of what you think you want to buy next but the return on investment is always diminishing after you buy that very first lens in terms of how much it "contributes" to your capabilities (and enjoyment)! Good luck and enjoy whatever purchases you do end up making...