Hello all i want my 1st dslr but when i speak to people i get different answers. My funds are limmited at the moment so if i pop into a currys some say the eos 450d or the 500d and some say the nikon d90 ( a bit out of my reach at the mo). I have never had one before and dont want to buy something i will need to upgrade at a later date. I will basically using it for general family outings, capturing things whilst out shooting etc etc. Also if the come with a 18-55 lens do i need to buy a new lens at the same time. Please help as my head is done in thinking about it:bang:. I think canon have £50 off the 500d and £30 off the 450d. Advise on the best place for the best deal would be great also. And should i buy second hand or go for new? cheers in advance of any replies
What camera should i buy
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you will get as many different replies as people you ask. Everyone will tell you something different, same as buying a car or a computer.
I'd say it all depends of what you want to take and how much bulk and weight you want to carry about on your outings, forget about all the technical stuff and think convenience. In the last few years I've changed camera 4 times, much complaining from my OH
Don't limit your choice to a dslr unless you think you are going to really need that ability to change lenses, you pay a lot for that. Evaluate some of the super zooms too. It all depends what you want to take so don't be too quick to part with your cash.
I'd say it all depends of what you want to take and how much bulk and weight you want to carry about on your outings, forget about all the technical stuff and think convenience. In the last few years I've changed camera 4 times, much complaining from my OH
Don't limit your choice to a dslr unless you think you are going to really need that ability to change lenses, you pay a lot for that. Evaluate some of the super zooms too. It all depends what you want to take so don't be too quick to part with your cash.
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The standard of DSLRs on the market at the moment is extremely high. For things like family outings you'll probably be happy with whatever you end up buying. Just go into a shop and try out a few to see which feels most intuitive to you and get that one.
As for if you need to buy an extra lens, just use the kit lens for a while. If you find it short of reach then pick up a telephoto later.
As for if you need to buy an extra lens, just use the kit lens for a while. If you find it short of reach then pick up a telephoto later.
Re best place to get the best deal, for new kit look at
www.camerapricebuster.co.uk
Also if you're budget is limited, don't forget the second hand options that you could get from the likes of Ffordes, camtech, Mifsuds etc.
www.camerapricebuster.co.uk
Also if you're budget is limited, don't forget the second hand options that you could get from the likes of Ffordes, camtech, Mifsuds etc.
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Also, take a look at teh classifieds here, you can often find well cared for kit at good prices.
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I had a 450D and I`ve been into photography for 25 years, and I must say what a brilliant camera it was. I`ve since upgradd to full frame but the 450D has ample features to keep you busy for years. No experience of the D90 but I`m sure it`s equally as good.
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As someone above said, all the cameras are good so simply go for the one you like the feel of the most (and that you can get a good deal on 
). That's what I did and I couldn't be happier. Don't buy a new lens straight away. Instead, use the 18-55mm for a while and then buy a new lens based on what you enjoy shooting the most. Having 2 new lenses straight away isn't good. I made that mistake around July last year. I bought a 28mm prime off ebay then a couple of days later I bought an 18-200mm. I never knew which one to have on the camera as I wanted to test/play around with both and it got a bit annoying.
). That's what I did and I couldn't be happier. Don't buy a new lens straight away. Instead, use the 18-55mm for a while and then buy a new lens based on what you enjoy shooting the most. Having 2 new lenses straight away isn't good. I made that mistake around July last year. I bought a 28mm prime off ebay then a couple of days later I bought an 18-200mm. I never knew which one to have on the camera as I wanted to test/play around with both and it got a bit annoying.
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The shopping suppliers and bargains section on here has a sticky at the top with a list of second hand dealers that people on here have found to be ok in their experience - it is a good place to start 
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I think what you've asked is initially one of the most difficult questions. The reason you get so many different answers is because the answer is totally subjective to the individual. The number of choices available to you is overwhelming, and throw into the mix the various reviews, opinions, comparisons, it's more than enough to make your head explode.
Some people look at tech specs, others at aesthetics, some purely on budget, others only want new, some want second hand, or it can be a combination. Do you want to buy outright or on interest free credit?
What you need to do is whittle down the choices. What I did was start by setting myself a budget that I will NOT go beyond and then ignore everything out of your reach. After this I tried to get my hands on the rest of the cameras. If I couldn't find one to hold, it went off the list - I wanted to know how they all felt in my hand and didn't want to chance buying blind. Any that didn't feel comfortable when I was holding them, off the list. After that I looked at menu system, switch and button placement, felt odd to operate or buttons too close together for my fingers, off the list.
Once I'd narrowed down my list I had 2 or 3 I was looking at, then it was either repeat the process with the refined list or decide on what I thought was the best compromise. Again the compromise is subjective to the individual.
With regards to upgrading, I've found it's not something that I NEED to do, but something that I WANT to do, again the reasons are subjective and the choices are myriad. Do you need to buy another lens straight away, no. Will you need to buy another at a later stage? Possibly, only you can answer that when you get there.
It can be a very daunting process and it can be difficult to get help because everyone has different opinions. I hope you find the camera that suits you best, not the one that's best for Joe Bloggs, down the road at number 23.
Hope that helps, even if its just a little bit.
Some people look at tech specs, others at aesthetics, some purely on budget, others only want new, some want second hand, or it can be a combination. Do you want to buy outright or on interest free credit?
What you need to do is whittle down the choices. What I did was start by setting myself a budget that I will NOT go beyond and then ignore everything out of your reach. After this I tried to get my hands on the rest of the cameras. If I couldn't find one to hold, it went off the list - I wanted to know how they all felt in my hand and didn't want to chance buying blind. Any that didn't feel comfortable when I was holding them, off the list. After that I looked at menu system, switch and button placement, felt odd to operate or buttons too close together for my fingers, off the list.
Once I'd narrowed down my list I had 2 or 3 I was looking at, then it was either repeat the process with the refined list or decide on what I thought was the best compromise. Again the compromise is subjective to the individual.
With regards to upgrading, I've found it's not something that I NEED to do, but something that I WANT to do, again the reasons are subjective and the choices are myriad. Do you need to buy another lens straight away, no. Will you need to buy another at a later stage? Possibly, only you can answer that when you get there.
It can be a very daunting process and it can be difficult to get help because everyone has different opinions. I hope you find the camera that suits you best, not the one that's best for Joe Bloggs, down the road at number 23.
Hope that helps, even if its just a little bit.
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ozanan sums it up very well, there really is nothing like getting your hands on the thing and feeling it