You all need to watch this

Tomas Whitehouse said:
No mate, you don't have to justify yourself to me or anyone for that matter, that's not what I'm trying to draw attention to.
I personally believe that your opinion on this particular discussion, in this instance only and most certainly not generally speaking, is harmful to you and I think it's a shame that you feel that way about the film.
I mean no offense, I mean no harm and I certainly intend no bad feelings.
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I took no offence at all Thomas.............:)

I think we,as a species, spend to much time analysing our own mind workings and psycho-analysing everybody and everything.People forget to enjoy themselves at times and are too intent are understanding everything.

I`ll go and get back in my cave now...............:D
 
fracster said:
I took no offence at all Thomas.............:)

I think we,as a species, spend to much time analysing our own mind workings and psycho-analysing everybody and everything.People forget to enjoy themselves at times and are too intent are understanding everything.

I`ll go and get back in my cave now...............:D
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Don't you dare, unlesss your taking images of bats and other cave dwelling animals, come from out of the cave! :nono:
Analysis, in any form, is an integral part of our daily lives, the more we understand, the more we learn, the more we experience, the more happiness we find, the better we are, the better our lives are.
Ignore the yabber and examine the core. :thumbs:
 
AliB said:
There is definately a link between the creative arts and mood. There is definately a link between the creative mind and depression. How may artists, photographers, comedians have stunned us with their artistry and privately suffered.

I don't think it's a huge revalation that Jack is another sufferer. Bob Carlos Clarke killed himself by walking in front of a train and I absolutely adored his work.

Interesting insight though.
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It is and its something I've spent most of last year pondering. It makes absolutely no sense to me. Why do I spend so much time depressed while others only see my work as good? Which leads me to the question, how in gods name am I doing it? Its insane. I didn't know Bob Carlos Clarke had depression. Its maddening. He was brilliant and unhappy. Why? How? How does that work?
 
fracster said:
Watched it twice now,perhaps i`m too practical and down to earth as I found it to be self indulgent,self pitying crap............:shrug:
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Me too. It's not that I don't want to understand or sympathise, I just found my mind was drifting like those clouds, and ended up wondering what brand of washing up liquid Marcel uses? :shrug:

If you got something from the film I'm chuffed for ya. Didn't do much for me except get me slightly concerned at where my mind can take me when adrift ;)
 
Life has its ups and downs. You need the lows to put the highs in perspective. You just need to know that what goes around comes around, and that nothing lasts forever - good or bad. It's got nothing to do with photography, but creative people do tend to have more than their fair share of both emotions. You just have to believe, to persevere as he says, and work through it, and change will come.

I was at college with Bob Carlos Clarke. The year above me, he was a bit of a hero from the day I first saw one of his nudes in the wash tank. It was immediately obviosu that he was different, and had amazing creative talent. I met him on and off for a long time after college and he always had what appeared to be an enviable lifestyle. Right up until the time he committed suicide. That was a shock.

This guy is just having a bit of a mid-life crisis. Like we all do. Wife and two growing kids, his father is dying. Yeah, that makes you think on a bit more than usual.
 
Sorry Thomas - I am in the cave with Fracster (ooer).

I am not saying I don't have depressions but whenever I am going through aperiod where I am not happy with the results I get I try to sit and work out what it is I am not happy about and then do something about it.

Usually it's about knowledge I don't have r technique I haven't picked up. So I go off and I research and I find answers and then when I apply it all I get a kick knowing I have improved myself.

If I can't find an answer I try to think it through logically and come up with my own solutions to try. But while I am going through that I don't feel telling everyone how down I am is going to help.

I am not descriminating against those people who work through the depression a different way - I am pointing out why, in my opinion, the video inspires some and not others.

To me and inspirational video is one that teaches me something I didn't know already and makes me itch to get out and try it.
 
Thanks Pete,
I can't say it's inspirational or it's depressing. It made me sit and think and to get my mind moving. I don't know which direction my mind will travel, but it has given me another perspective to see from.

(well all this sounds good in my head - hope you can get what i mean)
 
AndyB said:
Sorry Thomas - I am in the cave with Fracster (ooer).

I am not saying I don't have depressions but whenever I am going through aperiod where I am not happy with the results I get I try to sit and work out what it is I am not happy about and then do something about it.

Usually it's about knowledge I don't have r technique I haven't picked up. So I go off and I research and I find answers and then when I apply it all I get a kick knowing I have improved myself.

If I can't find an answer I try to think it through logically and come up with my own solutions to try. But while I am going through that I don't feel telling everyone how down I am is going to help.
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Y'see, that in itself is inspiring Andy, it's a great train of thought with very little room for failure, but (sorry for the but), that's not what I'm disputing or debating here. (see below)

AndyB said:
I am not descriminating against those people who work through the depression a different way - I am pointing out why, in my opinion, the video inspires some and not others.
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I didn't think you were discriminative against folk who work through depression in opposing manners, I don't believe it has anything to do with how somebody deals with depression.
The film does inspire some and not others, I agree completely, but I was attempting to address why it seems that there is condemnation toward the film's message and the authors approach. The reason why some find such a simple film so agitating or self indulgent.

AndyB said:
To me and inspirational video is one that teaches me something I didn't know already and makes me itch to get out and try it.
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To me, what your describing is learning or being educated in some form. Being inspired can originate from any element that can also cause you to perceive differently to how you may have previously or spark a new motivation or create the drive to revisit and reinvent.
Inspiration can develop an existing itch and make it much more itchy.
 
OK in that case I aggree. The content of the video is not your issue - it's the negative responses ?
 
I think it was pooh;)
 
different strokes for different folks i guess
 
It ant what you say it's the way that you say it
 
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