Or just a no dogs allowed sign?
There’s plenty of places to walk dogs. It’s nice to have some places in nature that are dog walker free.
Be nice to have some places in nature that are human free.
Be nice to have some places in nature that are human free.
cows with calves were on land with a public right of way
I would suggest that perhaps the person did no wrong.
A complaint was made
I agree that there should be no total ban but that doesnt seem to be the case and the owner seems to want to leave 30 cattle to roam un-attended and not put any effort into a solution.
Most members of the public are stupid and arrogantly think they have a right to go anywhere and do anything they want. They need to respect both livestock and wildlife and give them priority.
Paths across farmland should be closed in my opinion. I don't agree with public rights of way.
It would but we seem to have to build on every bit of open land in this country
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If I had a dog then I wouldn't go walking it through a field of livestock or bloodstock that had dependent young, nor would I walk it though a field containing a bull (even a beef breed with cows). As another forum member said above, there are plenty of other places to walk a dog, so I wouldn't feel particularly disadvantaged if I had to change my route for a few months. In my view, its all about understanding the countryside and working with it.
There are times when we've been on a holiday and gone out for a walk. Two thirds of the way through the walk and with only ONE footpath option, the farmer has put cows or a bull or horses in that field. Go back 6 miles? Is it the only option for them. Our dog IS kept on a lead whenever we are near any livestock and she is never walked in sensitive areas.
Going back to the original post, I think it is a shame that the cattle (we have walked there) should suffer such a fate.
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Yes it does but it's no good expecting the bee in bonnet crowd to see it that way.if this is true it puts things in perspective a bit.
I just got a dog but have sympathy with what you are saying. Too many times my tripod has nearly been knocked over or I have stepped in mess or been jumped on by dogs. Saying that I walk mine on a lead if there is anyone around and pick up after her. Signage is important and the Peak District is more than big enough to accommodate dogs and coosAgree - even if it's a public space there should be rules where dogs can and cannot be taken not just for the safety of other animals but also out of consideration for people (and I am not the only one) who really cannot abide dogs.
Yes, but all the empty bit is is Scotland . Exaggerating but my point is that that it’s very crowded where people are not where they’re not.There was something on TV or maybe radio recently that said that if the UK was a football pitch the area built on would be the little quarter circle bit around the corner flag. I don't think it was exactly clear if they meant just one corner flag or the combination of all four but either way if this is true it puts things in perspective a bit.
Yes, but all the empty bit is is Scotland . Exaggerating but my point is that that it’s very crowded where people are not where they’re not.
I just got a dog but have sympathy with what you are saying. Too many times my tripod has nearly been knocked over or I have stepped in mess or been jumped on by dogs. Saying that I walk mine on a lead if there is anyone around and pick up after her. Signage is important and the Peak District is more than big enough to accommodate dogs and coos
Possibly where you live mate. However where I live the councils are swallowing up green belt land and saving the brown sites for a rainy day.Less than 9%
Depends on what you consider precious, obviously the countryside isn't on your list with your remark Jack.Yes it does but it's no good expecting the bee in bonnet crowd to see it that way.
That would have been a bbc article.There was something on TV or maybe radio recently that said that if the UK was a football pitch the area built on would be the little quarter circle bit around the corner flag. I don't think it was exactly clear if they meant just one corner flag or the combination of all four but either way if this is true it puts things in perspective a bit.
Possibly where you live mate. However where I live the councils are swallowing up green belt land and saving the brown sites for a rainy day.
It would but we seem to have to build on every bit of open land in this country
As I understand it in areas with a foot path there are rules about keeping cattle.Let me get this straight - the cows have grazed on this land for 40 years ... and some random person walking a dog got too close and 'felt threatened'? They weren't even injured? And because they complained these cows are now removed from the land, either killed off or sold on? That is ridiculous. Surely this dog-walker knew of their presence on this land? Why did they get too close? and why did they make such a melodrama out of it coming away without injury? Have they never been for a walk in the countryside before? Seems really strange to me that their complaint was even heard let alone this drastic measure
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Quite right, it's the fragmentation effect associated with built environment that needs to be taken into account. For instance, if a certain species of wildlife can't get across a busy main road, or a patch or ribbon of built environment, then it becomes isolated. Amongst other things, this can lead to genetic impoverishment (in-breeding) and can prevent recolonization if the species in a location isolated by built environment happens to become locally extinct. So it's far too simplistic to think that 'only' a certain percentage of Britain is built on, so it can't be that bad. It's the outcome of the combined effects that we need to consider and successfully address if we want to avoid condemning Britain's wildlife to 'death by 1000 cuts'.You only have to paint half a piece of wood to make it 100% chessboard.
The stats about the small amounts by of land built on underestimate the area over which construction impacts. A main road might only be twenty metres wide but it ruins tranquility for hundreds of metres either side.
I know what you mean Robin about some people but disagree about closing footpathsMost members of the public are stupid and arrogantly think they have a right to go anywhere and do anything they want. They need to respect both livestock and wildlife and give them priority.
Paths across farmland should be closed in my opinion. I don't agree with public rights of way.
I know what you mean Robin about some people but disagree about closing footpaths
I’ve come across some muppets when I’m out but public footpaths have to be kept open
I do believe that dogs should be banned from nature reserves though
At my local reserve whixall moss there are signs everywhere to say keep dogs on leads because of ground nesting birds but most dog walkers let their animals run everywhere
The centre of the reserve was closed off last summer to all members of the public because of this which is extremely annoying to me as I now can’t access an excellent butterfly area
Or the general public should learn and respect the fact that farmland is a working environment that has inherent dangers associated with it and that they should behave accordingly when crossing it.Otherwise I think that either public footpaths should not cross fields with livestock or crops OR that farmers should not keep livestock in fields where there are public footpaths without footpath fencing.
Might be an idea if you went to find them then!There are plenty but not in the UK
Or the general public should learn and respect the fact that farmland is a working environment that has inherent dangers associated with it and that they should behave accordingly when crossing it.
Two sides to every argument.
I agree, but... Unfortunately this always leads to legislating for the lowest common denominator at the expense of the liberties of the sensible human beings. It happens all the time in angling club rules and it p***es me off no end. We shouldn't be dumbing down all the time or the time will come when we have no freedoms left..... But in the real world we all know that GENERALLY most of the general public do not learn or respect such matters and neither have they ever done so.
What we believe they should do and what they actually do are very different. I agree that they should but they simply don't, unfortunately. I'm afraid that it's equally unrealistic to think that everybody can be educated to learn. This applies to much more than just behaviour in the countryside - Just think about litter as one of many examples.
What's this, Vegan central opinion.These animals are not there for the good of the public or the good of the land, they are not wild roaming, they are commercial assets, bread and farmed to be sold and salughtered for profit, wether that came now or later in their life cycle is irrelivent. These farmers know they should not have had calving heifers on publicly accessible land yet, continue to do so. Their reaction to culling the heard is because they know they are in the wrong and have been caught out.
It's also worth noting that this isn't the first time there have been issues here.
It's very likely the complaint came not from a townie, but from a local who knows the rules and is fed up of the liberties that have been taken.
But let's not let that get in the way of a good bit of outrage.