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Update

i have now had an independant medical assesment of my Hip problem,lasting almosthalf a day this included x/rays and another MRI scan.the consultant was excellent in explaining everything in simple laymens terms,i was made to feel very comfortable and plenty of time was made for me to ask any questions regarding everything that i have been through with the treatment i have had

he has confirmed that in his opinion he has problems with that treatment i have had,the advise i was given,the medication,aftercare (or lack of),and most importantly the main reason im ow in the pain im in.

he is now writing to my solicitor.and a copy of this to myself,detailing the results of my medical assesment.
my solicitor is now in communication with both the surgeon and the hospital where i have been treated,we have had replies and the communication is still in the early stages and ongoing.

i now have another consultant who was recommended by the consultant who did my medical asesment who has reviewed all my case notes and has offered me a full hip replacement.im awaiting a pre-op which should be anytime very soon and the opp within 28 days,however the opp is subject to the opp being paid for.my solicitor has written to my GP asking that they agree to the surgery being performed outside of the NHS but paid for by my local health authority as the opp is regarded as most urgent.

my fingers are

as for those of you who have negative opinions on suuing the NHS.i have nothing but complete disregard to your views,and would always recommend that anyone with a problem should absolutely make a great fuss,demanding that questions are awnsered in a satisfactory manor,2nd opinions,even 3rd sought and time made for your questions.never be fobbed off as the NHS are absolute mastors of sidestepping difficult questions as most often they do this because it is known that there has been 'negligence'.get/demand copies of everything,all medical notes,x/rays etc and always seek independent advise.

You appear to have confused me with someone who gives a poo. Good luck with the suing,

I agree NHS can be hit or miss... depends who is on in casualty when you really need it...... myself -I cannot fault it, after a double tib and fib....
 
i now have another consultant who was recommended by the consultant who did my medical asesment who has reviewed all my case notes and has offered me a full hip replacement.im awaiting a pre-op which should be anytime very soon and the opp within 28 days...

All the sueing talk aside... I'd just like to say good luck with the op. I had a total hip replacement age 53 last year and within a couple of months it felt great. I even passed my 4th Dan karate grading a couple of months ago! There's light at the end of the tunnel... Hope it goes well for you.
 
kestral said:
The reality is, wether people like it or not when you sit down and look at the NHS, it is crap. There are to many surgeons playing golf. The GP's are on well over £100,000 a year the don't want do home visits anymore.All they want to do is give a prescription and get you out of the surgery.Most places now want an appointment made before you can see a Doctor(the deterrent). No Doctors surgery on a Sunday! don't people get ill on a Sunday then!
As I have got older, I and my peers have had more dealings with the NHS and time and time again these people are lax and have lost interest with all of the ill people.There are 60,000000 + people in this Country, in all honesty how can the NHS work.Animals get better treatment at the Vets.Just hope to God you don't get ill.:wave:

I couldn't possibly disagree with you anymore strongly!
 
I couldn't possibly disagree with you anymore strongly!

I'm finding it hard too. My recent experiences at the hands of the NHS have been extremely good and I would very possibly not be here today were it not for their efforts in September.

Pets get better treatment? Where (for free)?
 
I couldn't possibly disagree with you anymore strongly!

:agree:

My consultant had a very heavy workload so he operated on me, and 2 others, on a Sunday. A porter was not available to push me to the theatre so he and a nurse wheeled my bed down. He even telephoned my wife after the op to tell her how it had gone.

My doctor has always made house visits when required. They have a walk in surgery every morning and you can get a pre-booked appointment within a day.
 
i totally agree with you here however it has become very apparent that the choices and options were definatly not fully explained,neither were the possible side effects explained.my questions were awnsered however these questions and awnsers were based on what i had been told.it was what i was not told at any time that has caused my condition to worsen and the lack of proper care and treatment.

i walked uaided into that hospital and came out on crutches in crippling pain,have been on crutches ever since and have got progressivly worse.the surgeon and hospital has failed to treat me to improve my situation or prescribe any medication.and i have depended on my pain specialist at another hospital who is treating me for my back problems to give me medication to help me with the hip pain.in spite of this pain consultant writting to the surgeon and hospital,he has had no replies whatsoever

it has only recently become clear by having another MRI scan that my cartlidge trim turned out to be the complete removal of the cartlidge in my hip.I was never told this and my worsening hip condition/pain/spasms is as a direct consequence.

i have been told that this is both negligence and incompetence

You're getting pain medication for your hip off someone who is treating you for your back :shrug:

Maybe when they went into your hip they found your cartlidge was a lot worse than they first thought and rather than waking you to ask if it was ok to remove it they did anyway. When i had a similar op on my knee the above scenario was explained to me before I signed the consent form.
 
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I'm finding it hard too. My recent experiences at the hands of the NHS have been extremely good and I would very possibly not be here today were it not for their efforts in September.

Pets get better treatment? Where (for free)?

Ah! Another big mistake people make.The NHS is NOT FREE for people who work.Ever heard of National insurance.A lot of people forget that. Just like having to pay for a prescription for something that costs less than the prescription it's self! and dentists that don't want to do a root canals because it takes more than one visit.So they pull the teeth out instead(FACT).As I say one has to sit down and think about these things. It's easy to praise the NHS if they save your life it still does not change the fact it is a shambles.:cool:
 
I suggest you go and live in the USA and it may make you realise how very wrong you are.
 
Ah! Another big mistake people make.The NHS is NOT FREE for people who work.Ever heard of National insurance.A lot of people forget that. Just like having to pay for a prescription for something that costs less than the prescription it's self! and dentists that don't want to do a root canals because it takes more than one visit.So they pull the teeth out instead(FACT).As I say one has to sit down and think about these things. It's easy to praise the NHS if they save your life it still does not change the fact it is a shambles.:cool:

I've yet to go to the doctor and find them tell me to get a prescription for something cheaper at the chemist, usually they tell you to go to the chemist and ask for the pharmaceuticals you need.

And whilst your on the subject ni. You can't opt out so as far as I'm concerned its free. Never had poor vfm from the NHS when I've needed it.
 
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Ah! Another big mistake people make.The NHS is NOT FREE for people who work.Ever heard of National insurance.A lot of people forget that. Just like having to pay for a prescription for something that costs less than the prescription it's self! and dentists that don't want to do a root canals because it takes more than one visit.So they pull the teeth out instead(FACT).As I say one has to sit down and think about these things. It's easy to praise the NHS if they save your life it still does not change the fact it is a shambles.:cool:

I don't work but I do pay NI. I get free prescriptions due to Type II Diabetes. I gave up on NHS dentistry and now go to a good one (and pay for the priveledge). I also refuse prescriptions for Paracetamol since I'm sure the NHS pay more per tablet than I do.
 
And whilst your on the subject ni. You can't opt out so as far as I'm concerned its free. Never had poor vfm from the NHS when I've needed it.

That all depends on how much you earn as the upper limit was abolished years ago or whether your self employed. The system's hardly fair.
 
I've yet to go to the doctor and find them tell me to get a prescription for something cheaper at the chemist, usually they tell you to go to the chemist and ask for the pharmaceuticals you need.

And whilst your on the subject ni. You can't opt out so as far as I'm concerned its free. Never had poor vfm from the NHS when I've needed it.

"You can't opt out so as far as I am concerned it's free" what planet are you on! LOL.:wacky:
 
neil_g said:
Have you got a valid argument or are you just trolling?

Clearly not, which is why I didn't bother trying to justify my opinion earlier.
 
kestral said:
The front of the national newspapers to day old boy:LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:


Links please, don't just chuck out some random comments, not everyone gets a paper, i've been out of the loop for 3 days so have no idea what you are referring to.
 
All very quite here now. I think the matter of if the National Health Service is fit for purpose is now clear. As I said "an absolute shambles" :cool:
 
Sounds like the OP has had a tough time. I'm surprised the surgeon didn't go through the major risks - it's difficult to list every single possible potential risk or side-effect. However, even if you'd been given a leaflet of the common or serious risks/consequences would have been enough information. Hope your pain gets sorted.

The reality is, wether people like it or not when you sit down and look at the NHS, it is crap.
Compared to what? You can compare it to healthcare in third-world countries. You can compare it to first-world countries. I've found that everyone's expectations vary and this determines whether they're happy with things or not.

There are to many surgeons playing golf.
Not really. Remember that surgeons are on contracts to provide x hrs amount of work - whether it's surgery, clinics, ward rounds etc. The rest of their time is up to them. Some choose to do private work, some play golf.

The GP's are on well over £100,000 a year
That was true for about the first year of the new 2004 contract. It has been going down since. Remember that GPs are "independent contractors" and essentially the practice will get paid £x amount, the outgoings will be £y amount and anything left over is the profit which is what GPs will draw from. The majority now take around £60-70k, will get taxed on it and pay into the NHS pension scheme.

the don't want do home visits anymore.
When the NHS was set up, the idea was that you get GPs in one group to maximise their efficiency ie patients come to the surgery rather than GPs going round and visiting everyone. The expectation was that GPs would onyl ever have to make two visits for any patient, and that one of those would be to confirm death. If everyone demanded a visit, there would be no point in surgeries. It would also take longer to deal with every patient so whereas you might see 6 patients in 1 hour, you now see 2 patients in 1 hour.

All they want to do is give a prescription and get you out of the surgery.
Not really. What you find is that most patients expect a prescription, even if all they have is a cough/cold. Granted, some GPs are going to be crap. Here's a statistic for you: 50% of all GPs will be under average! :LOL:

Most places now want an appointment made before you can see a Doctor(the deterrent)
What other way would you do things? Some places have open-day access only (can't book in advance, just turn up and wait), others have pre-bookable slots. What you'll find is that whatever system the GP surgery adopts, some patients will love it and some will hate it. Can't please everyone.

No Doctors surgery on a Sunday! don't people get ill on a Sunday then!
That's because the Govt took it away. GPs were struggling with the workload and cracking. There was early retirement and lack of recruitment into General Practice. The Govt said "okay, either continue out-of-hours or lose £6000 per GP" - the GPs at the time jumped because the OOH service isn't worth £6000 worth of work. This cost was based on historic payments from the inception of the NHS and hadn't been updated since. The Govt then tries to run OOH for the equivalent of £9000 per GP and they still can't do it right. Moral? OOH care costs far more than the Govt can afford to pay.

Animals get better treatment at the Vets.
What happens when an animal is too unwell? They get put down. Humans get given loads of drugs, put into a care home and have a prolonged life. I'm not in favour of euthanasia but I can see the sense behind it and hate the fact that target-chasing means you put Mrs Dot who's 90 years old on a zillion tablets to keep her going.

You might pay National Insurance but it's not enough to cover the costs of the NHS. The Govt fudged everyone over and promised you a Rolls-Royce service at the cost of a Ford Fiesta.
 
update to let you know how im getting along.

I finally had my hip replacement opp in march,it seems that this was a fairly straightforward procedure and the deep groin pain ive suffered since the frirst procedure I had was instantly gone.i cant tell you how much a relief this is,though anyone that has felt the grinding pain and spasms caused by having no cartildge in my hip will understand. I have been having regular phisio to build up some leg strength due to relying on crutches for 16 months my leg had whithered somewhat.and ive just now finally put them down after 21 months of not being able to walk without them.
im also now off all of the heavy duty painkillers ive been taking,which is a relief,though even these including morphine did not block the pain in the last couple of months before the replacement as my body had got used to them,and I can now start driving again,which im really looking forward too
on the legal side I am surprised how quickly things are progressing as I was led to believe it could be 3+ years before we got anywhere.my solicitor is saying that my case is extremely strong and it is possible i could be offered a settlement within another year
 
Peter i am glad that you are feeling better and that you are getting somewhere with the legal side of things.
 
Ah! Another big mistake people make.The NHS is NOT FREE for people who work.Ever heard of National insurance.

Since moving to Australia the NHS is one of the things I miss most. People die or live in pain for years all over the world because they can't afford basic healthcare, and that's not only in "Third World" countries, that's in places like the USA and Australia.

The NHS (before it was sold off) was one of the great institutions of the world, providing a bit of basic human dignity to people. Of course it wasn't perfect, but it was a damn site better than the alternative.

Over here a trip to the dentist can very easily reach four figures for basic work that would cost next to nothing out of pocket at home. It's not long before you're looking at a five figure bill either. People fly to Asia for treatment because they still save money even after spending on flights and accommodation (and the standard of treatment is often higher). Look at how many people break the law in the States by travelling to Cuba for healthcare because their own government would rather they die than spend a few dollars on them.

I was in the US early this year, my girlfriend's cousin (who is from LA) was telling us of the thousands of dollars he was charged after a window fell and cut his arm. He had one injection and about 5 stitches, which were horribly botched, leaving him scarred. On the NHS that would've been free (yes minus his NI contributions) and from my experience, would likely have been performed with more skill.

People who want the NHS privatised are the worst. They're basically saying working class people don't deserve health.
 
Congrats on the outcome Peter. I can't believe some of the disgusting replies on this forum soo far, are we men or children in here?
Yes we are in the claim culture but what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? It appears that soo many jump their guns assuming that the OP was out to sue when clearly there is something wrong here?
At the end of the day, yes our expenses increase each year but one man's situation won't affect us at all. The NHS have contingency plans in place as they know there are errors, tired doctors, wrong diagnosis in place etc. I'm sure there are plenty of guys on here that have been treated poorly by the NHS, it's also proven that due to NHS staff being treated like **** that their quality of service has suffered as a result. Until the Gov take some time out and give the hard working staff a break things will only get worse.
10 Years ago my mother had a hysterectomy due to a growth on her cervix, she had severe pain for years to come until she had to have a scan whereby they found a cyringe needle lodged in where they had performed the op and over time had calcified. This is negligence, she didn't sue however as she was completely scared at the time, what would you do in that situation? Too many assume that we're all too lucky to have an NHS, yes we are in various ways but there's a major reason that a lot of people are going to BUPA and this is purely because the job gets either done or the advice is clear.

Can't we all just give the bloke a break? Put yourself in his shoes and try dealing with the pain that long, I know I wouldn't be able to!
 
update to let you know how im getting along.
Great to hear things have improved. This is how it should have been from the start.

Since moving to Australia the NHS is one of the things I miss most. People die or live in pain for years all over the world because they can't afford basic healthcare...
People who want the NHS privatised are the worst. They're basically saying working class people don't deserve health.
And that's what really grates me when you see people flogging off bits of the NHS. The majority of people would not be able to afford the costs of treatment. I really don't want a two-tier system but it looks like it's heading that way. The healthcare companies will "cherry-pick" the easy, low risk cases and everyone else will suffer.

there's a major reason that a lot of people are going to BUPA and this is purely because the job gets either done or the advice is clear.
But look at how much money goes into BUPA and how much money they make as profit. If all that money was chanelled into the NHS, we could have more staff, more facilities and everyone would be under less pressure. You could have more time per operation rather than having to bash through a morning theatre list. Instead, the NHS has to make £20bn worth of "efficiency savings". In the end, it's the public who will suffer as a result.
 
For those of you that might be interested. Some figures to consider.

35% of clinical negligence claims are dropped
46% of clinical negligence claims are settled out of court.

Average time from notification of complaint to resolution 1.3 years.

Payments made by the NHS for cases of clinical negligence in 2011/12. £1,329,000,000 - yes 1.3 Billion pounds PAID OUT from the NHS budget!!!

Current liability estimated at £18.9 Billion - thats for all outstanding cases.

Source NHS Litigation Authority.
 
One of my concerns is why the claims are settled. Some are genuine ie someone messed up and admitted liability. Some will be the medicolegal team advising it'll be cheaper to settle, even if it looks like you're admitting liability. I know of one case where the doctor was in the right but the costs to clear his name would exceed the settlement figure the family wanted.
 
Payments made by the NHS for cases of clinical negligence in 2011/12. £1,329,000,000 - yes 1.3 Billion pounds PAID OUT from the NHS budget!!!

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its not paid out of the NHS budget , they have insurance (which is why so many cases are settled out of court - insurance companies often prefer to settle rather than fight)
 
its not paid out of the NHS budget , they have insurance (which is why so many cases are settled out of court - insurance companies often prefer to settle rather than fight)

The NHS trusts all pay into an NHS insurance scheme called the clinical negligence scheme for trusts (CNST) all the separate trusts pay into the pool against the risk of being sued. The amount each trust pays is based on several factors and there are three levels of premium depending on how many risk factors have been addressed. (A bit like no claims bonus for careful drivers lol!).

If the NHS do not pay this money, where do you think it comes from? Do the Insurers (who are the NHS anyway) pay it out of the goodness of their heart :LOL:
 
The payments into the insurance scheme will be higher than the settlements going out otherwise the insurance companies wouldn't offer the insurance (or they would go out of business).

Insurance acts as a buffer against sporadic large payments. They pay a regular fixed premium and the insurance company pays out when necessary.


Steve.
 
If the NHS do not pay this money, where do you think it comes from? Do the Insurers pay it out of the goodness of their heart :LOL:

In the same way that when in a previous job my idiot minion crashed into a BMW Z3 and wrote it and our truck off our insurers paid out about £40k - which we hadn't paid them.

The money comes from all the premiums that people/organisations pay without having accidents/claims etc , it doesn't come directly from the organisation that makes the claim , if it did it would be pointless having insurance.
 
In the same way that when in a previous job my idiot minion crashed into a BMW Z3 and wrote it and our truck off our insurers paid out about £40k - which we hadn't paid them.

The money comes from all the premiums that people/organisations pay without having accidents/claims etc , it doesn't come directly from the organisation that makes the claim , if it did it would be pointless having insurance.

Why don't we ban all expensive or new cars? They are waste of our money surely? (a bit of sarcasm here)

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OP, I hope you are recovering and doing well know.

I am fairly disgusted by some attitudes in the thread. Particularly ones pretending that bad cases of treatment should be ignored. Just wait till you get sick and get unlucky to be treated by butcher methods.

I have had both good and bad experiences, both on a very low level being fairly young and fit. Minor injuries and illnesses, but I have seen some bad cases first hand. I rate GPs on the lower end of the scale, many times not showing the full incentive to examine, very short appointments, quick to prescribe and let go. AEs (saturday) are much better even if the wait is longer. There is a lot of personal difference. Some bright doctors do their absolute best, and some barely scraped through the med school mostly drinking first few years and have almost no clue. [I have quite a lot of medical knowledge from university courses, although I didn't formally study medicine]

I totally agree with legal action against negligence, but then I feel it should have more personal weight. The doctor in question should be the one mostly responsible, not the whole system. Bad enough job(s) = practice ban. It's the only way to refine the system, and reduce the number of cases. But then I do disprove all whiplash moneygrab and similar.
 
I rate GPs on the lower end of the scale
That's interesting given that the majority of A&E doctors will be very early in their training, maybe 1-2 years postgraduate level.

I agree that 10 mins is too short. As people are living longer, more have multiple problems. 15-20 mins should be more routine. But then you'd have fewer appointments in the day.

Bad enough job(s) = practice ban. It's the only way to refine the system, and reduce the number of cases. But then I do disprove all whiplash moneygrab and similar.
What's to stop surgeons then performing any surgery that carries too many risks? Imagine if OP had been told he couldn't have surgery because he was too high risk? I agree if a surgeon has a large number of operations with lots of resulting complications, it needs to be addressed. To ban them doesn't tackle whether it was down to time pressures or poor training. If through remedial training, they became excellent surgeons, would you still want them banned?
 
In the same way that when in a previous job my idiot minion crashed into a BMW Z3 and wrote it and our truck off our insurers paid out about £40k - which we hadn't paid them.

The money comes from all the premiums that people/organisations pay without having accidents/claims etc , it doesn't come directly from the organisation that makes the claim , if it did it would be pointless having insurance.

Yip. This is why many larger organisations self fund/insure their predictable risks - other than potentially catastrophic exposures - up to a certain level, on a stop loss basis. There's no point in paying premiums for these losses, identified as more or less inevitable by the claims history - so that the insurer can pay the money back to you. That just increases risk financing costs.
 
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