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How can it be thievery if you enter into a contract with someone to sell your kit? There are some very strange attitudes being shown on this thread, talk about crying before your hurt! You need to look up the meaning of thievery!
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There sure are. Seems very strange that any reasonable person would support a retailer offering well below market value for equipment.
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Who's supporting them? I'm merely making the point that everyone has a choice and there is no need to be insulted or be reduced to accusing business of thievery just because you are offered a low p/x price. There are people throwing there hands up in horror who would probably never contemplating buying from Jessops, but they'll have a moan anyway. How bloody futile and what a waste of energy!
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I'm not sure you should keep assuming things about who would and wouldn't consider buying stuff from Jessops. You did the same thing earlier in the thread and both myself and Hugh pointed out that you were wrong.
It seems that you have an issue with people pointing out how crap the Jessops trade in offers are. They're not just low, they're ridiculously low. That's a fact based on market value gauged from the other used equipment dealers. The fact that no one has to use them isn't really much of a defence for it either as that's the type of reasoning trotted out by the payday loan brigade.
It seems that you have an issue with people pointing out how crap the Jessops trade in offers are. They're not just low, they're ridiculously low. That's a fact based on market value gauged from the other used equipment dealers. The fact that no one has to use them isn't really much of a defence for it either as that's the type of reasoning trotted out by the payday loan brigade.
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So now you are comparing Jessops to a Payday loan company ??? Christ it gets better this! My point is that people are saying that they insulted and calling a company a thief for daring to offer low px prices. You then state that other dealers offer better prices! So tell me why not just say the Jessops offer low px prices rather than saying that they are insulting you or that they are thieves?
Why is it not enough for you just to walk on by and take your business elsewhere? You plainly have no concept of the costs or returns needed to run a high street retail business and you just end up sounding like a punter! Thieving relies on the concept of someone taking something from you without consent so how can this possibly happen with part exchange?The fact that you are shopping round for prices shows you have an idea of what the market offers so why use hysteria and plain to deride a business that is trying to offer photography to the masses on the high street? We know that most experienced photographers wouldn't use Jessops to px expensive kit so why is there a need to rubbish a service you wouldn't use personally?
To call a business a thief verges on libel and to say a px deal insults you shows an extreme lack of emotional control. I think maybe if looking at equipment websites generates this level of emotions and hysteria in you then maybe you ought to start trainspotting instead! Get a life, I'm wasting my breath, enjoy your Daily Mail in the morning!
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I'm comparing the defence that states something along the lines of "well nobody is forcing you to use their p/x service" to the type of comment trotted out by the payday loan brigade. There's nowhere that I've stated Jessops are acting in a similar fashion. I'm quite sure you're fully aware of that though. Stop trying to put words in my mouth and twisting what I've typed to infer something other than what it clearly means. I have not called anyone a thief, and although I can't be bothered to track back and check my posts I don't believe I've said they're insulting me either. Others may well feel that way and that's their remit but as you've quoted me I feel you must be directing the comments towards me, and as such you're entirely wrong once again. I've stated their offers are disgracefully or ridiculously low, a rip off and crap and that's exactly what they are. Obviously you don't agree with that and that's fair enough, we'll all have differing views on a whole lot of things. I do find it a touch strange that any reasonable person without some vested interest would consider what Jessops are offering for kit in p/x to be a fair reflection on its' value, make of that what you wish. With regards to any comments verging on being libellous etc.. I'm not any kind of lawyer, whether that be a real one or a keyboard/internet one so I'll leave that type of comment to yourself.
Oh, and I don't read the Daily Mail either. What did I suggest you do about making assumptions eariler on ?
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Stuart I'm not directing my comments at you, just at the thread which to be honest has been blown way out of proportion with some pretty sensational claims.
To summarise - Apparently Jessops part ex prices aren't good! Solution -don't use them! I am 99.9 % sure that when setting up the facility Jessops were neither seeking to insult potential customers or to be called thieves! They are looking to increase their sales, Im even more sure that as they start understanding the px model more, these figures will change.
What most people don't seem to want to realise is that there is a cost to being able to walk in to a high street store play with new kit and part ex their old kit for it on the spot! Its not thievery its called profit and essential to a business continuing.
To summarise - Apparently Jessops part ex prices aren't good! Solution -don't use them! I am 99.9 % sure that when setting up the facility Jessops were neither seeking to insult potential customers or to be called thieves! They are looking to increase their sales, Im even more sure that as they start understanding the px model more, these figures will change.
What most people don't seem to want to realise is that there is a cost to being able to walk in to a high street store play with new kit and part ex their old kit for it on the spot! Its not thievery its called profit and essential to a business continuing.
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Can this be done on the spot?
Still waiting for an answer to my previous question.
Please give the "!" a break you might need that number one key some day.
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So because YOU believe you are right and others wrong then constant repetition of the things YOU believe others don't understand will convert us all .......
Get real.
I believe you are Peter Jones and I claim my vou.. cher for 1 6x4 print from Jessops.
Before you fall back on your mntra.... I have been the owner of 4 successful businesses over the last 28 years, all of which traded solvently and , in the case of the last one, I determined when I closed it so as to realise my ambition not to work into old age and I also sold my client list at a very good price, placed my asskciates into othe companies and have retired to a comfortable existence, no mortgage, debt free and laughing at the letter from the govermment telling me I will not get my paid for State pension till I am 66
I achieved all I have because I do understand "Buisiness" which included assisting local businesses through the now defunct "Business Link".
At no time did I use predatory practices or hidden scalping techniques. Nor, unlike you via this thread, seek to provoke, insult or ridicule others contributing to the discussion.
I suggest you should review your behaviour and either accept that others may choose to make their own minds up about the business practices of a company that incurred little debt in purchasing the brand name of the defunct business it now trades under and which, untill now, was at least trading fairly on the High Steet as oppossed to (say) an address in Luxembourg.
Look up what 'Doi g a Ratner' means an realise that Jessops may well reap a similar outcome by their offer. Whether or not it's fair or not, any business that sends out the wrong message can suddenly find they have no business. Gerald Ratner knocked £500m off the value of his company by telling other company Directors that his cheaper products were 'crap'. Customers boyvotted the shops and Ratners Jewellry shops ceased trading. The element was he did not realise at that moment he dismissed the value of the chealest stock he was selling. Perception by customers was that they did not matter. Massive mistake.
Whatever you believe, a choice to judge a company or person anyone chooses to do business with, also includes trust, value and experience. An old adage may assist that revoew
People can and do forget what you say
People can and do forget what you do
They NEVER forget how you make them feel
Have a nice day
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Thanks for the Business Mantra and the word 'defunct' rings strong when you mention Business Link having ha experience of that woeful organisation. When you've finished blowing your own trumpet and airing your pomposity( I actually cant remember asking for or the relevance of your CV other than for your self gratification) perhaps we can get the thread back on track!
Jessops have started offering a px scheme - if you think the prices are too low, don't use them - simples - why are they thieves and after insulting people? Get Real
A forum just brings out the worst types of tyre kickers and whingers who have nothing better to do than deride things. If that's what you want to do then fine, but don't whine or pontificate when I put my point of view over too.
Have a nice day yourself
Thanks for the Business Mantra and the word 'defunct' rings strong when you mention Business Link having ha experience of that woeful organisation. When you've finished blowing your own trumpet and airing your pomposity( I actually cant remember asking for or the relevance of your CV other than for your self gratification) perhaps we can get the thread back on track!
Jessops have started offering a px scheme - if you think the prices are too low, don't use them - simples - why are they thieves and after insulting people? Get Real
A forum just brings out the worst types of tyre kickers and whingers who have nothing better to do than deride things. If that's what you want to do then fine, but don't whine or pontificate when I put my point of view over too.
Have a nice day yourself
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Repeating your nonsense just paints you into your own sad little corner.
Your constant whining on about people not understanding business actually prints the word Whinger all over you after you spat your dummy out.
Have a wonderful life.
Anyway back to the real world.
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I agree, Jessops won't have set out to insult potential customers. However the reality from reading this thread is that they appear to have managed to do so. Jessops still have a brand that's worth protecting, and although some short term profit may be realised through this new p/x aspect of the business there is a real risk of damaging future business, through putting potential customers off completely with low offers and also by running the risk of alienating those customers that do deal with them. I'm sure people will be happy with an on the spot trade in, however if they find out how much extra they could have got by selling their kit elsewhere that happiness is likely to quickly change. Yep, many people will trade in with Jessops and never know the value they could have achieved elsewhere through nothing more than a phone call and waiting in for a courier to collect their stuff. However for those that do Jessops may well go from being a respected business to somewhere they're unlikely to shop again. That's the biggest risk. People like the forum members here know the value of our stuff so will simply avoid places that in our opinion are lowballing it. However more average (I dislike using that but for want of a better term) consumers often don't until someone points it out. However once it gets pointed out they tend to react strongly. In this day and age companies need to do all they can to protect their brand, it doesn't take much to damage it but it's hard to get that trust back, if it ever gets recovered at all. Surely this is particularly relevant to somewhere like Jessops given the competition they face from online and grey markets ?
As an example, I know someone that will never buy a used car from a particular national retailer again because they feel that they got ripped off previously. Yes, they were happy to do the deal at the time but that turned to regret later. For the sake of short term gain they lost the potential multiple custom of at least a half dozen people. Leave someone feeling that they got a crap deal (even if they find out 6 months later) and the business has lost far more than any profit made from it.
Regarding the "cost to being able to walk in....". Most of these costs (premises, rates, staff, storage) will already be covered through Jessops normal business. Obviously there's depreciation until the items are sold however with the very big difference between Jessops offer and other used kit dealers they could have a quick turnaround by selling onto them and still make an easy profit that would far outstrip what would have been made on a straight sale of the camera.
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Stuart I agree with all you say on here but with all due respect the people on this forum are not 'average punters' they know and love photography and are savvy when it comes to what their gear is worth - so really comments like' insulted by their offer' and accusing them of 'thievery' really don't sit well with me hence my comments. I'm all for constructive criticism but not hysterical comments by people who should know better and who are well aware of the alternatives available.
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Missing the fact they do not offer good buy in prices so therefore have no used stock
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lol what I ment is a can't actually see that they are selling the goods on?
So more of a scraping service, some things they may be able to push onto A N Other and make a killing others cover the costs of sending it to be recycled.
Either way anyone who know the value of their goods wouldn't use them, so makes no differnce.
So more of a scraping service, some things they may be able to push onto A N Other and make a killing others cover the costs of sending it to be recycled.
Either way anyone who know the value of their goods wouldn't use them, so makes no differnce.
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They probably sell the trade in gear to MBP or WEX for a profit !
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OK guys, put the handbags away and concentrate on the posts,
not the poster Fanx awfully
Ummm possibly the wrong thread Cobra?
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And then again possibly not, but just a few days too late
We get RTM's and don't always read the dates on the posts
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You might want to revisit the thread (your own contributions especially) and rethink that comment.
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And then again possibly not, but just a few days too late
Everything is possible oh moderating type!!!!!!
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Ummmm and your point is?
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