London at night.......

MWHCVT said:
In theory it can be totally fixed but I'd need access to a RAW file and it would probably be a 30-60 minute job to make it look totally right, the best thing to do I'd as you say shoot earlier within the blue hour :D
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30-60 minutes!! What was you going to paint it?:LOL:
 
Rs500chad said:
30-60 minutes!! What was you going to paint it?:LOL:
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Well no but first of all I'd be creating appox 5 different versions of varied white balance there creating a multi layered image and merging those different versions into a single blended image, hence why it would take so much time to do...that said I probably wouldn't be doing it...
 
MWHCVT said:
Well no but first of all I'd be creating appox 5 different versions of varied white balance there creating a multi layered image and merging those different versions into a single blended image, hence why it would take so much time to do...that said I probably wouldn't be doing it...
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Really? I think you take this far too seriously. I try and make it fun. :p
 
MWHCVT said:
Well no but first of all I'd be creating appox 5 different versions of varied white balance there creating a multi layered image and merging those different versions into a single blended image, hence why it would take so much time to do...that said I probably wouldn't be doing it...
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Much easier to get the basics correct in camera (y)
 
Rs500chad said:
30-60 minutes!! What was you going to paint it?:LOL:
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It would take that amount of time to correct all the wrongs in that image ( from a RAW file) PP can be very time consuming

Best advice, get it right in Camera first :shrug:

Les ;)
 
Rs500chad said:
Really? I think you take this far too seriously. I try and make it fun. :p
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I do take photography seriously especially night time photography it's that I specialise in :)

JakeT1992 said:
Much easier to get the basics correct in camera (y)
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Lez325 said:
It would take that amount of time to correct all the wrongs in that image ( from a RAW file) PP can be very time consuming

Best advice, get it right in Camera first :shrug:

Les ;)
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Exactly chaps or as right as you can at least (y) most photos like this need minor adjustments....even mine :D :naughty:
 
MWHCVT said:
I do take photography seriously especially night time photography it's that I specialise in :)





Exactly chaps or as right as you can at least (y) most photos like this need minor adjustments....even mine :D :naughty:
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So why waffle on about 60 minutes here and layers there? At the end of the day this was my very first night shot, so some hints on how to set my camera would be far more helpful. I only have a 300D with a kit lens, so as I said, I am really only a learner. :(
 
Rs500chad said:
So why waffle on about 60 minutes here and layers there? At the end of the day this was my very first night shot, so some hints on how to set my camera would be far more helpful. I only have a 300D with a kit lens, so as I said, I am really only a learner. :(
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Personally i think you are being a touch rude, you have people going out of their way to help you here:shrug:
 
Cg_Girl said:
Personally i think you are being a touch rude, you have people going out of their way to help you here:shrug:
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If you think that then I apologize. But what I said is a valid point surely. :shrug:
 
Cg_Girl said:
Personally i think you are being a touch rude, you have people going out of their way to help you here:shrug:
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You've posted a few times in this thread yet not offered one single piece of advice as to how the images could be improved :shrug:

To the OP, before you start thinking about white balance, appropriate shutter speed, straight horizons etc I think you should consider what you are photographing and how you frame it. In my opinion the composition of the shots is the fundamental problem. If they were all perfectly exposed they'd still be flawed. Think about what you want to show, then what you'd need to do (the technical stuff) to achieve that. (y)
 
Ricardodaforce said:
You've posted a few times in this thread yet not offered one single piece of advice as to how the images could be improved :shrug:

To the OP, before you start thinking about white balance, appropriate shutter speed, straight horizons etc I think you should consider what you are photographing and how you frame it. In my opinion the composition of the shots is the fundamental problem. If they were all perfectly exposed they'd still be flawed. Think about what you want to show, then what you'd need to do (the technical stuff) to achieve that. (y)
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Don't start! i have been in here because i am interested, i can't offer advice as it's not my line but i can learn from advice given... i have been nothing but polite and friendly to the OP so i think you need to lay up on how you speak to people
 
Rs500chad said:
So why waffle on about 60 minutes here and layers there? At the end of the day this was my very first night shot, so some hints on how to set my camera would be far more helpful. I only have a 300D with a kit lens, so as I said, I am really only a learner. :(
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Because that was referring to getting that photo as shot to a standard I'd be really happy with ;) your shooting a scene that has a massive dynamic range so your not going to get a single exposure that has all areas correctly exposed in a single exposure without some degree of post processing...generally my post processing is limited to highlight recovery and shadow details...then colours adjustments to taste...then anything else is cosmetic ...

So getting it right in camera as much as possible, the main thing is the time of shooting its always to me at least preferable to shoot in the blue hour that is from just after sunset to a little over and hour after sunset at this time there is usually still some nice colour in the sky, I alway aim to slightly over expose my highlights as when shooting raw it's easy to pull back highlight that are slightly over exposed, but you've got to avoid blown out highlight ie totally over exposed as there is no recovery that will fix that...this slight over exposure of highlights will also mean you've got to do less to get shadow details and this will mean less shadow noise...personally I nearly alway shoot with a custom white balance but you can look at using white balance correction as to show the actual colours of the scene rather than the colour of the light source...there are exceptions to this correction such as building where the lighting effect is done for its artistic merits but overall you need to set a white balance to suit the main light source so in this instance the main light source is a very warm source to balance this out you need a cooler white balance..white balance is based on the Kelvin scale so it maybe useful for you to read about that
 
Cg_Girl said:
Don't start! i have been in here because i am interested, i can't offer advice as it's not my line but i can learn from advice given... i have been nothing but polite and friendly to the OP so i think you need to lay up on how you speak to people
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Glad to be of service (y)

To the OP. You've got some good images in your Flickr photostream, so you're more than capable of getting the most from that location. I'd search Flickr for shots of that place that inspire you, learn from them and go back and do it again. Have fun (y)
 
Ricardodaforce said:
Glad to be of service (y)

To the OP. You've got some good images in your Flickr photostream, so you're more than capable of getting the most from that location. I'd search Flickr for shots of that place that inspire you, learn from them and go back and do it again. Have fun (y)
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Thanks mate. ;)
 
Think some of the folk on here need to take a chill pill and lighten up(pun intended):D
 
Take a look at Ricardodaforce on flickr, he's got some great photos take in the blue hour. They're not taken in London, but will show you what is acheiveable with good lighting. Take note of exif data etc. There are some London shots on my flickr from earlier this year also.
 
*folds arms across chest, Ena Sharples-esque*

Right you lot, all of you, play nicely, stop digging at each other and just worry about your own posts and how you can help Richard, and Richard, please accept that all help is offered in good faith, even if some of it might seem too indepth right now.
 
Returning to the OP - apart from the white balance colour temperature issue they arent bad , the millenium dome is the best one although its a little bit tghtly framed for my liking, and is slightly on the wonk.

Regarding setting things up in camera, your best bet is to shoot Raw format which will enable you to easily alter these things later, however if you don't want to do that shooting jpeg your best bet is to make sure you set the white balance to the right setting - if you are shooting under orange lights they are probably sodium so set it to the symbol that looks like a little lightbulb - if the lights are bright white or slightly green they will be halogen or flourecent so set it to the one that looks like a little tube

The other possibility is that they are LED , but that isnt likely so probably best not to worry about that unless the pics look wrong on the LCD
 
JakeT1992 said:
Take a look at Ricardodaforce on flickr, he's got some great photos take in the blue hour. They're not taken in London, but will show you what is acheiveable with good lighting. Take note of exif data etc. There are some London shots on my flickr from earlier this year also.
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Thanks Jake, very kind of you to say so.
 
I would say you've done a pretty good job Richard, as you've said in the wedding thread, you're a beginner with the kit lens etc.
Upgrading kit doesn't make a good photographer but it helps in the image quality, for me to become better I need to take advice from the more experienced, more knowledgable and much better photographers, you'll get a load of that advice on here, ok, maybe sometimes it can come across as a tad harsh but it will help you a hugh amount, it's now up to you weather you run or stay and show what you can do (y)
 
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