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I'd expect it to be a stunner priced at £2200!! Lol
Looking at the lens I thought that was a misprint that should read 2200lbs.
I'd expect it to be a stunner priced at £2200!! Lol
I was playing with a Sony A7 II yesterday brough the images home with me on the Card and quite impress... I even manage to get some good pictures in C-AF and I though this camera wasn't good at it?
Anyway I am thinking between these 2. A7II or the A7R... But I can't see what the big difference is... apart from A7R got more MP and the A7II got the 5 Axis IS
I was playing with a Sony A7 II yesterday brough the images home with me on the Card and quite impress... I even manage to get some good pictures in C-AF and I though this camera wasn't good at it?
Anyway I am thinking between these 2. A7II or the A7R... But I can't see what the big difference is... apart from A7R got more MP and the A7II got the 5 Axis IS
I thought - and I stress this, as I haven't checked - that the a7 and a7r also differed in how their autofocus actually worked, with the a7 being the better performer.
My own preference for the a7r stems from my normally using a large format camera and looking to get all the detail I can get for my type of photography. Nothing else actually mattered very much to me. As far as the file sizes go, they are miniscule compared to my scans from 5"x4" film.
For most people, from what I've seen of preferences expressed on forums, the a7II would be the better bet assuming it does have better autofocus performance (I hate autofocus and always use manual) and the image stabilisation, since a lot of people hate tripods as much as I hate autofocus . And there are situations where tripods can't be used.
Having had a play with the new A7 II, it feels good but not sure about the increase in size/weight ..... I like my A7 and haven't really found anything major to want to make me change and don't see the A7 II a big step up and the IQ is not worlds apart when compared to the A7.
I am still hoping Sony build the rumoured A9 series with true Pro level features ideally with better AF / Tracking, IBIS, A7S type high ISO sensor (24mp), high FPS, True weather sealing and better battery life.
Sony might be able to improve sensor technology?
Sony might be able to improve sensor technology?
Perhaps eventually but I think you're looking at years down the road certainly not any time soon. The thing is people are already talking about FF sensor performance being at its limit and its only going to be down to camera image processing.
Perhaps eventually but I think you're looking at years down the road certainly not any time soon. The thing is people are already talking about FF sensor performance being at its limit and its only going to be down to camera image processing.
I don't think thats necessarily true. The Sony 24 and 36mp sensors have been around a while now. I find it hard to believe Sony havent made progress. The A7s shows they like to experiment and aren't afraid to push boundaries.
Of course they have made progress, but I think you're wrong if you think the A9 (if its 24mp) is going to have the same ISO performance as an A7s. Look at what Nikon did with Sonys 24MP sensor, its the same sensor but Nikons image processing is better so the files are cleaner, which is exactly what Im talking about.
I didn't say the A9 could have a 24mp sensor. If they're going to move forward on a7s tech it would be to produce the same or better iso performance in a sensor somewhere between the current 12 and 24 sensors, which would appeal to more photographers. For some the lower res of the A7s is the only factor putting them off. Of course if they do manage it with a 24mp sensor, that would be something else.
My comments were based on Rizvans comments. The A7s isn't technically a stills camera, its primarily aimed at the video crowd and thats why 12mp is more than enough, video shooters would rather have the killer High ISO than the MP. For still shooters they can either put up with 12mp advantages or go with one of their other models. The A7ii sensor isn't an improvement on the older A7 sensor and thats 24mp and a couple years down the line, theres no way the A9 with a 24mp count would have the A7s ISO performance.
Tell me why so many photographers have bought one then? Iso performance matters just as much for photographers as it does videographers. A sensor that can produce clean noise free images in any light and at a large resolution is one of if not the main factor in sensor advancement. It comes up quite alot with dslr users that want to switch to a lighter ff system. They're attracted to the iso performance of the a7s but put off by the resolution (me too). Do the same trick with an 18mp sensor, now we're talking. This would suit such a broad range of applications. For photographers the A7s is quite niche. Steve Huff has one, but he also has an A7ii.
If you compare the latest Sony 24 meg sensor in the Nikon D750 its at worst 1/3 stop behind the A7s (according to DXO) so its really not difficult to bridge that very small gap.Perhaps eventually but I think you're looking at years down the road certainly not any time soon. The thing is people are already talking about FF sensor performance being at its limit and its only going to be down to camera image processing.
It is according to scientific testing though. Once downsampled to 12 MP I suspect the D750 would be a lot closer too.
also realising increasing MP means increasing noise levels. Sony has already offered 3 various MP sensor cameras, how many do you want?!
Again with current sensors this is the case. Can't you see the broader appeal in a higher mp sensor with higher iso performance? I'm sure if Sony had the option to go larger without sacrificing performance they would have. 12mp is a compromise based on the tech available at the time. Pros will adopt a system that can do everything very well, much in the same way they did with the 5d3(excellent for video and stills and with good res). I do feel Sony can produce the next 5d3, but not based on a 12mp sensor.
Of course there'll be a high iso higher MP sensor - why wouldn't there be? Technology moves on all the time and High iso is improving all the time. As stated its barely even a 1/3 stop away, not even that once downsampled. Give it two years and we will have that sensor.
Of course I can, cant you understand you cant have everything in 1 camera and if it works for you it wont for others.
I've no idea why the 5d3 did so well then. Surely all those people that bought one didnt want all that top notch functionality all rolled into one single body.
What are you on about Karl, is the Canon 5d3 as clean as the A7s? Because I thought we were talking about MP vs ISO and why 1 combination wont work for everyone and thats why Sony is giving us options.
Of course it isn't lol. But at the time the 5d3 proved a very good point that you CAN have everything. Sony have surpassed Canons sensor tech by a long way. If Sony are serious and really want to make their mark in ff mirrorless then they need an e mount camera that will do what the 5d3 did for Canon. There's no doubt that in under 5 years dslr sales will disappear. Mirrorless is the way forward and when Canikon eventually step up, Sony have only themselves to blame for missing the boat.
There's no doubt that in under 5 years dslr sales will disappear. Mirrorless is the way forward and when Canikon eventually step up, Sony have only themselves to blame for missing the boat.
It isn't difficult is it.
Ok so what happens to the pro videographer that shoots stills, Are you saying they should buy two cameras? that might fine for some but I think given the choice they'd rather buy one. Anyway I'm just speculating, I look forward to new tech. I hope the next a?/.. does squish the a7s because you'll all be wanting to upgrade to it lol